An atheist's call to arms

[TER]

If you truly based your belief on faith, why would you need the miracles?

You miss an important part of the Christian message:

When you have faith and trust, you do not need miracles in order to live a life in joy and peace, because life itself become one great revealing miracle. One living prayer to God.

Jesus performed miracles, amazing and instructive miracles, to fulfill His mission on earth- to tear down the veil separating God and man. To be a bridge of healing, a source of salvation, a life-giving spring. Yes, He did all these, and this: He sent down the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life. And this Spirit is Life itself!

The human experience should not be discredited simply because it seems relative. After all, you admitted before that there possibly is a God. That is as much a relative statement as it is a statement of logical fact.

The soul does not live in your mind. It lives in your heart.

And the longer you let your mind lead you at the expense of your heart, the longer you will live in doubt- confusion- fear.

Use the mind. Yes, of course! Let it take you there.

But let your heart help guide you.

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

You miss an important part of the Christian message:

When you have faith and trust, you do not need miracles in order to live a life in joy and peace, because life itself become one great revealing miracle. One living prayer to God.

Jesus performed miracles, amazing and instructive miracles, to fulfill His mission on earth- to tear down the veil separating God and man. To be a bridge of healing, a source of salvation, a life-giving spring. Yes, He did all these, and this: He sent down the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life. And this Spirit is Life itself!

The human experience should not be discredited simply because it seems relative. After all, you admitted before that there possibly is a God. That is as much a relative statement as it is a statement of logical fact.

The soul does not live in your mind. It lives in your heart.

And the longer you let your mind lead you at the expense of your heart, the longer you will live in doubt- confusion- fear.

Use the mind. Yes, of course! Let it take you there.

But let your heart help guide you.

If Jesus was not born of a virgin birth, and performed no miracles, would you still believe he was the son of God?

 

[TER]

If Jesus was not born of a virgin birth, and performed no miracles, would you still believe he was the son of God?

If Jesus was not born of a virgin birth and performed no miracles, than He couldn't be the Son of God.

 

[M House]

So those conditions weren't met what would that mean exactly? All of your religion would be void or it'd just be different.

 

[TER]

So those conditions weren't met what would that mean exactly? All of your religion would be void or it'd just be different.

It would argue against the claim that Jesus is the Son of God and a divine being, the God-man.

 

[M House]

It's tough for me to argue totally against say does a divine being affect some element of our lives. I don't think so but that's alot of whatever it would be could affect. However, it stills seems to me that it's kinda impossible to have a virgin birth. And depending on the miracle that's more or less physically impossible as well. The problem I got with most any religion is it's just inflexible and defies alotta testable and observable things in nature.

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

It would argue against the claim that Jesus is the Son of God and a divine being, the God-man.

so the virgin birth is. . .

EVIDENCE,

Thus your belief is based on. . .

EVIDENCE, NOT FAITH

 

[TER]

so the virgin birth is. . .

EVIDENCE,

Thus your belief is based on. . .

EVIDENCE, NOT FAITH

My belief is based on evidence and faith.

Just as yours is. (As was demonstrated earlier in this thread)

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

My belief is based on evidence and faith.

Just as yours is. (As was demonstrated earlier in this thread)

No, stop trying the tired old argument, "your's is a religion too, haha, you are just as stupid as I am"

I dont believe your evidence because I think it is nothing more than myth, superstition, and fabrication.

You dont believe the scientific evidence because 1) you are uneducated in science, and 2) you have already reached your own conclusion and will not let things like facts get in your way.

 

[Xenophage]

You miss an important part of the Christian message:

When you have faith and trust, you do not need miracles in order to live a life in joy and peace, because life itself become one great revealing miracle. One living prayer to God.

Jesus performed miracles, amazing and instructive miracles, to fulfill His mission on earth- to tear down the veil separating God and man. To be a bridge of healing, a source of salvation, a life-giving spring. Yes, He did all these, and this: He sent down the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life. And this Spirit is Life itself!

The human experience should not be discredited simply because it seems relative. After all, you admitted before that there possibly is a God. That is as much a relative statement as it is a statement of logical fact.

The soul does not live in your mind. It lives in your heart.

And the longer you let your mind lead you at the expense of your heart, the longer you will live in doubt- confusion- fear.

Use the mind. Yes, of course! Let it take you there.

But let your heart help guide you.

When you learn to let go your conscious self and stretch out with your feelings, you do not need luck. Life becomes meaningful and guided by purpose. One Universe, one Force.

Yoda performed miracles, amazing miracles, and instructed our savior Luke so he could fulfill his destiny - his mission, to reunify the Dark and the Light Side of The Force and return balance to the Universe with the aid of his father. Yes, he did all these things, and yes, he destroyed the Emperor, and gave us freedom!

Although much of the truths we cling to depend entirely upon our point of view, this should not discredit the sentient experience and the great awe and completeness felt by one who is in tune with The Force. Even if you're some scruffy nerf-herder who believes in luck, you've got to at least admit there COULD be a Force.

Remember: The Force does not live within you. It lives through you, and it surrounds us and binds the Universe together.

Fear, confusion, anger - these lead to the Dark Side of the force. Do not let your passions control your destiny.

Use The Force! May it be with you, always.

 

[TER]

No, stop trying the tired old argument, "your's is a religion too, haha, you are just as stupid as I am"

I'm not saying your stupid, I'm saying you have a religion, though you won't call it that.

I dont believe your evidence because I think it is nothing more than myth, superstition, and fabrication.

So you believe...

You dont believe the scientific evidence because 1) you are uneducated in science, and 2) you have already reached your own conclusion and will not let things like facts get in your way.

How are you so sure I am uneducated in science? Do you know me well enough to make that claim? What if I told you I graduated from an engineering university with high honors and have earned a doctorate with 12 years post-secondary education and have been published in peer reviewed journals? I'm not trying to boast or claim I know more science than you, but rather am claiming that you are still confused with the demonstrable fact that you have a religion based on faith and yet you still continue to deny it.

 

[TER]

When you learn to let go your conscious self and stretch out with your feelings, you do not need luck. Life becomes meaningful and guided by purpose. One Universe, one Force.

Yoda performed miracles, amazing miracles, and instructed our savior Luke so he could fulfill his destiny - his mission, to reunify the Dark and the Light Side of The Force and return balance to the Universe with the aid of his father. Yes, he did all these things, and yes, he destroyed the Emperor, and gave us freedom!

Although much of the truths we cling to depend entirely upon our point of view, this should not discredit the sentient experience and the great awe and completeness felt by one who is in tune with The Force. Even if you're some scruffy nerf-herder who believes in luck, you've got to at least admit there COULD be a Force.

Remember: The Force does not live within you. It lives through you, and it surrounds us and binds the Universe together.

Fear, confusion, anger - these lead to the Dark Side of the force. Do not let your passions control your destiny.

Use The Force! May it be with you, always.

Thank you! You see, the truth can be found in varying degrees in all faiths and human acts of creation, be it art, music, or literature!

 

[Pennsylvania]

Doubt != Faith

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

I'm not saying your stupid, I'm saying you have a religion, though you won't call it that.




So you believe...



How are you so sure I am uneducated in science? Do you know me well enough to make that claim? What if I told you I graduated from an engineering university with high honors and have earned a doctorate with 12 years post-secondary education and have been published in peer reviewed journals? I'm not trying to boast or claim I know more science than you, but rather am claiming that you are still confused with the demonstrable fact that you have a religion based on faith and yet you still continue to deny it.

Then I would tell you to go boast your credentials in the WTC tower 7 thread. Your degree has nothing to do with biology.

 

[Xenophage]

Doubt != Faith

Class Ethics extends Epistemology {

boolean god = Universe.isThereAGod();
Person self = new Person();
Slut whore = new Slut();

public Ethics() {
if(god) {
self.pray();
} else {
self.sex(whore);
}
}

JAVA FTW!

 

[TER]

Then I would tell you to go boast your credentials in the WTC tower 7 thread. Your degree has nothing to do with biology.

Actually, it was my major.

 

[M House]

Wait TER your a biology major. What did you end up doing with your degree?

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Wait TER your a biology major. What did you end up doing with your degree?

used it as toilet paper, seeing as how he obviously didnt learn anything.

He wasted about as much time as Bernanke did when he spent all those years studying the Great Depression.

 

[TER]

Wait TER your a biology major. What did you end up doing with your degree?

I became a physician.

Are you a biology major?

 

[Xenophage]

Remember guys: just because someone is religious, that doesn't make them a Democrat. TER won't vote to raise your taxes, and for that I just might want to bake him a Jesus cake.