'American Sniper' breaks box office records

[William Tell]

I wonder how he would've fared with a Simo Häyhä or Matthäus Hetzenauer shooting back at him.

Or Roza Shanina

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Carlos Hathcock was 1,000x the sniper, and 10,000x the hero that Chris Kyle was. Only reason Kyle had more 'confirmed' kills was because it's harder to disappear the bodies in open desert than in thick jungle. Also, Hathcock was not a psychopath who bragged about killing random American civilians for fun inside the United States following a natural disaster (ie Hurricane Katrina and the Superdome Sniper). Here again we see this antichrist phenomena where the "Christian" Right elevates the government above and in place of God Himself. I ran a Twitter search for "American Sniper" and was duly horrified at the godless nature of what America is becoming. These people had better repent, because they do not yet comprehend what is going to happen when they stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ.

 

[jmdrake]

Interesting.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html
In the winter of 1939, the Soviet Union was dicks. Russian Premier Josef Stalin thought it would be really fucking hilarious if he all of a sudden sent like two million of his dudes over to nearby Finland to start kicking everyone's asses and seizing whatever land he could get his borsch-covered hands on, while simultaneously kicking puppies and shouting profanities at inanimate objects in a vodka-and-caviar induced roid rage. While this may have been a laugh riot for Stalin and his numbnuts cronies, the Finnish people obviously were a little unhappy with the prospect of having all their cross-country skis, Winter Olympics gold medals and salmon fishing boats captured by a rampaging horde of godless commie bastards, so they decided to open an extra-large can of whoop-ass and give the Russkies the ballsack kicking they were apparently looking for.

Now when you think of Finland, the phrase "military powerhouse" isn't exactly the first thing that pops into your head. Likewise, when you looked at Simo Häyhä, a slight-framed Finnish farmer who didn't stand an inch over five feet tall, you also probably didn't think "total fucking unstoppable badass". Well let's just say that first impressions can be deceiving.

Simo was a member of a Finnish organization roughly equivalent to the minutemen of the American Revolution. He had done his state-mandated one-year term in the Finnish Army, reaching the rank of corporal, and was living a peaceful life in a farming village not far from the Russian border, spending his days farming, hunting, and crushing giant logs into sawdust with his bare hands. When the Soviets crossed the border into Finland with the expressed purpose of busting Finnish heads, Simo was called up into service. He went out to the wood shed behind his house, grabbed his old-school Russian-made Mosin-Nagant M28/30 rifle and headed out to take some commies behind a proverbial woodshed of his own.




Häyhä's specialty was his knowledge of the forests, his enduring patience and his impeccable rifle marksmanship. A sniper by trade, he would dress up in all-white camouflage, sneak through the woods with only a day's worth of food and couple clips of ammunition, and then lie in wait for any Russian stupid enough to wander into his killzone. His first battle-experience came in the hard-fought Kollaa campaign, where a severely outnumbered Finnish force bore the brunt of a large-scale Russian assault. Temperatures at this time ranged from -20 to -40 degrees Celsius, and the entire forest was covered with several feet of snow. While this played havoc on the inexperienced and under-equipped Russian invaders, the Finns were right at home in it because FINLAND IS FUCKING COLD AS SHIT ALL THE TIME and they're used to it there. Throughout this campaign, Häyhä basically just ran around doling out head-shots like the ice cream man gives out Dove bars on a hot sunny day in the Sahara desert. His personal best was fucking twenty-five kills in a single day. That's like an entire baseball team.

Throughout the Winter War (as it would come to be known), Simo Häyhä ran around being what experienced HALO players would call a "camping ***", and scoring enough kill shots to make fucking RoboCop and the Terminator hide their heads in shame. He would come to be known throughout the Russian Army as "The White Death", and at one point in the war they even went so far as to try and launch a couple of goddamned artillery strikes on locations at which they thought he might be hiding. That's desperation there - like even more desperate than a nymphomaniac babe at a convention for castrated male models.

After hearing about how much ass Häyhä was kicking out on the frozen tundra of eastern Finland with an antiquated bolt-action piece-of-shit rifle, the Finnish High Command decided to give him a special award: a custom-built Sako M2/28-30 Sniper Rifle of Headshots +3. He put this to good use, killing the ever-loving shit out of anyone that crossed him. On several occasions the Russians sent their own snipers to take him out, but Simo managed to win those duels every time. You see, Häyhä not only passed out long-range silent death to anyone with a red star on his hat, but he did it without the aid of a telescopic sight. He preferred to use the rifle's regular iron sights because it allowed him to present a smaller target, and because several of the commie snipers he moked out were given away by a glint of light reflecting off the lenses of their scopes. He obviously didn't want to fall to this fate, so he went balls-out and wasted assholes the old-fashioned (and unarguably the more hardcore) way.

Finally, on 2 March 1940, some Soviet bastard got a lucky shot off and popped Simo Häyhä in the jaw with an explosive bullet. Häyhä fell into a coma and was pulled off the field by his comerades. He would finally awake eleven days later, on the same day that the Winter War ended. He would go on to live to the ripe old age of 97.

The Winter War ended as a victory for Finland. The Red Army captured a mere 22,000 square miles of territory and lost close to one million men, more than forty times the number of Finnish casualties. Simo Häyhä received five medals for valour, including the prestigious Kollaa Cross, and was express-promoted from corporal to second lieutenant. Throughout the war, Häyhä raked in a total of 505 confirmed sniper kills (in some sources he is credited with 542). On top of this, he also mowed down two hundred men with a Suomi 9mm submachine gun, bringing his total kill count to over 700 men in under 100 days.

Nobody in history has ever been credited with more confirmed kills than Simo Häyhä. He was an unlikely war hero who used patience, cunning and precision to defend his country, his home, his people and his freedom from communist totalitarian oppression. He was an unstoppable killing machine the likes of which the world has never known before or since.

 

[RJB]

Carlos Hathcock was 1,000x the sniper, and 10,000x the hero that Chris Kyle was. .

CH also had to sneak miles into enemy territory vs getting chauffeured to his nest like CK.

 

[pcosmar]

No intention of seeing it,, but have seen the trailers and hype.

the WWII Potato Masher grenade was a nice touch.

 

[RJB]

Sure it was meant to make people feel the horror of war, but that's just to make people respect the sacrifices of our brave soldiers who died for our freedumz. It's cast as a necessary evil, not as a pointless evil, which is what it should be cast as.

QFT. I've had my hopes so raised when I hear someone agree how these wars are breaking a generation of young men, physically, spiritually, and emotionally. They'll agree that some very evil people are profiting hugely at the expense of everyone. They'll express loathing for the corruption at the highest levels of the MIC. They'll even admit we are are really not achieving anything.

They go on and on and I will think, "Yes Someone with their eyes open!"

And then they drop the paradox bomb, "But unfortunately, it's a necessary evil."

I hate that phrase. Evil is Evil, PERIOD!!!

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Sure it was meant to make people feel the horror of war, but that's just to make people respect the sacrifices of our brave soldiers who died for our freedumz. It's cast as a necessary evil, not as a pointless evil, which is what it should be cast as.

Its sounds like its purpose was to perpetuate and consolidate the idea that whatever the horrors of war, its just another of those unavoidable parts of life like the weather or an economic crisis. It just "comes" and of course we all have to fall in line with the Government.

I remember when they were beating the drums in 2002 and 2003. The TV was saying, "Is war coming?", as though it was an impending act of God.

From what I've read on this thread it sounds like the movie did a real good job of burying any actual thought or notion of what the U.S. Empire's international slaughters are all about.

 

[osan]

I refuse.

movie4k.to

see it for free.

 

[osan]

If it was directed by Clint Eastwood I would think he's toying with american jingoism in a subtle manner.

Or maybe he just recognizes a good cash cow when he sees one. I'd do the same, had I the juice.

 

[osan]

The rest of the world will recover surprisingly fast IMO. They're smarter and an economy will always exist for people who want to work. But the spreading disease of the entitlement class has sunk in too deep in the nation of sheep.

You single out America? Nonsense. You apparently do not live in Europe. Most of my family is there and I have spent enough time there as a child to know how they think and I can tell you that the western end of that continent is every bit the dopes that the average American is on many fronts. On some they are indeed smarter. In others, they lag far behind us. People are people no matter where they originate or live. There are those who are cool, and there is the majority who are clueless, corrupt to an absurd fault, and not worth half their weight in bat guano.

Welcome to the fruits of the modern world.

 

[osan]

Is that a 105mm round in your pocket, or are you just glad to see Chris Kyle?

Well, who knows... maybe his fate was a snippet of karma coming to visit.

 

[osan]

WTF is this guy doing, trying to shield his eyes from the sun indoors?

Where I came from, trying to pass that off for a proper salute would have gotten you hand broken. So yeah... just be a sun-shield move.

 

[osan]

Sure, the exuberant bleating of the sheeple will only last a week or so, but the impact in the minds of the ignorant masses will last much longer.

Anyone want to take bets on how big will be the surge of young men for BUDS?

 

[William Tell]

Its pathetic that people worship this guy.

His writing is drenched in braggadocio. “People ask me all the time, ‘How many people have you killed?’” he wrote in “American Sniper.” “My standard response is, ‘Does the answer make me less, or more, of a man? The number is not important to me. I only wish I had killed more. … The Navy credits me with more kills as a sniper than any other American service member, past or present. I guess that’s true.”

What was less sure, however, were some of the anecdotes he told after he left the SEALs in 2009 and returned to Texas. “After his incredible military career, he felt such high pressure to maintain his image,” Mooney told The Post. One way he did this was bar fights, pinning it on “pent-up aggression.” He told a story in his book of one time he and a pal pummeled a few “wannabe UFC fighters” in a bar.
“I would rather get my ass beat than look like a p—y in front of my boys,” he wrote.

That sense of superhuman toughness perhaps led him to tell stories reporters couldn’t confirm. One involved a cold January morning at a gas station southwest of Dallas. Two armed men, he said, approached him and told him to hand over the keys to his black F350. “I told them I would get them the keys,” he told Mooney. “I told them they were in the truck and to just let me reach in.” Kyle then claimed he reached into the car, pulled out a gun and, shooting under his armpit, killed both men. “It’s true,” he said.

But was it? Reporters, including the New Yorker’s Nicholas Schmidle, called some of the nearby county sheriffs and none of them knew of it. “I went to every single gas station [nearby],” Mooney explained. “I talked to every single law enforcement out there, all the Texas rangers — and there’s no evidence whatsoever.”

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram had no better luck. “We checked with the medical examiner’s office, which reported no such deaths in Cleburne in January 2009.”

Years after those alleged killings, Kyle had another story to tell. This one referred to the vacuum of authority in New Orleans following Katrina, when the city slipped into chaos. According to the New Yorker and several military publications, Kyle and a few other SEALs drank late in San Diego late one night in early 2012. “The SEALs began telling stories, and Kyle offered a shocking one,” the New Yorker reported. “…He and another sniper traveled to New Orleans, set up on top of the Superdome, and proceed to shoot dozens of armed residents who were contributing to the chaos.” The magazine said one conversation participant said Kyle “claimed to have shot thirty men on his own,” while another said Kyle and the other killed 30 between them.

When the New Yorker’s Schmidle called the U.S. Special Operations Command for confirmation, he didn’t get any. Then one of Kyle’s officers told the reporter, “I never heard that story.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...yle-the-deadliest-sniper-in-american-history/

 

[PRB]

calling somebody a ****** is not an argument.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why not do a high production value, Hollywood glossy of the life and times of Pat Tillman?

Yeah, thought so...

The deception surrounding this [Tillman] case was an insult to the family: but more importantly, its primary purpose was to deceive a whole nation. We say these things with disappointment and sadness for our country. Once again, we have been used as props in a Pentagon public relations exercise. - Kevin Tillman

 

[Anti Federalist]

calling somebody a ****** is not an argument.

Nope, that's an observation.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Seth Rogen's tweet from yesterday regarding the movie:

"American Sniper kind of reminds me of the movie that's showing in the third act of Inglorious Basterds."

 

[PaulConventionWV]

calling somebody a ****** is not an argument.

It's not meant to be an argument. It's a meme which happens to have some truth to it.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Seth Rogen's tweet from yesterday regarding the movie:

"American Sniper kind of reminds me of the movie that's showing in the third act of Inglorious Basterds."

I was thinking the exact same thing. Hitler had propaganda movies of his own that glorified his soldiers. This is the exact same thing.