'American Sniper' breaks box office records

[Feeding the Abscess]

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This will only last a week or so.

Sure, the exuberant bleating of the sheeple will only last a week or so, but the impact in the minds of the ignorant masses will last much longer.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I would say the movie was pro-military, but not necessarily pro-war. Even though it did go out of its way to show the justification every time, the scenes are not easy to stomach. Even with a justification, it isn't comfortable watching someone kill a child or watching soldiers busting into people's homes and interrogating them. There was the one line that stood out to me, where one of the soldiers is expressing doubt about their mission, the other says "There's evil here [Iraq]", and then he responds with "There's evil everywhere" (meaning us too). It's not a lot to go on, but I would guess that most people coming out of the theater might have a little bit less of an appetite for war than before. That was my impression, anyway.

I am honestly quite befuddled that more than one person on this thread has expressed a similar opinion to this. How can you not see the messages of blind patriotism? It may not be pro-war, per se, but that has never really been the aim of the propaganda. The goal is to make people feel for the sacrifices of our brave military and not think twice about why they have to do these things.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

America is going to fall apart because there are just too many stupid voters. Nobody understands debt, the monetary system, and how unsustainable it is to have a military 5x greater than all the countries combined. "The Greatness" of America and her freedom experiment will be written in history books as a bubble blip on the radar. While Rome lasted much longer, we couldn't even make it to 300 years old before falling apart. Pathetic.

The rest of the world will recover surprisingly fast IMO. They're smarter and an economy will always exist for people who want to work. But the spreading disease of the entitlement class has sunk in too deep in the nation of sheep.

Careful there. It hasn't fallen apart yet.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

@ Feeding the Abscess, the Germans were only defending themselves from Soviet invasion after they had spent years invading the Soviets.

 

[staerker]

Here is the thing.

Even if you believe that preventative wars are justifiable-
and that sniping in preventative wars is justifiable-
and that sniping woman and children in preventative wars is justifiable-

Even if you truly believe that these are necessary evils, and that necessary evils are somehow not evil in and of themselves-

there should be no respect, no pride, only sadness.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

@ Feeding the Abscess, the Germans were only defending themselves from Soviet invasion after they had spent years invading the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

I'm sorry, I had a different sniper in mind I was thinking of an Austrian man who fought for Germany and went back to his carpentry job after the war and died only a few years ago.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

reference Carlin... yet once again

 

[CPUd]

Here is the thing.

Even if you believe that preventative wars are justifiable-
and that sniping in preventative wars is justifiable-
and that sniping woman and children in preventative wars is justifiable-

Even if you truly believe that these are necessary evils, and that necessary evils are somehow not evil in and of themselves-

there should be no respect, no pride, only sadness.

That's sorta how the film ends.

 

[Crashland]

I am honestly quite befuddled that more than one person on this thread has expressed a similar opinion to this. How can you not see the messages of blind patriotism? It may not be pro-war, per se, but that has never really been the aim of the propaganda. The goal is to make people feel for the sacrifices of our brave military and not think twice about why they have to do these things.

Really? In my opinion, the goal was to make people feel the horror of war. For people who aren't normally exposed to it, that in and of itself makes people think twice about it.

 

[PRB]

The people want war and glorification of the military. We are screwed.

People wanting to hear inspirational stories from an individual's view, or glorification of realistic violence, is nothing new.

People watch and enjoy illegal violence in movies all too regularly. Super hero movies, vigilante movies...you name it.

Hello? What are kids' video games about? Spongebob jumping bubbles?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Really? In my opinion, the goal was to make people feel the horror of war. For people who aren't normally exposed to it, that in and of itself makes people think twice about it.

Sure it was meant to make people feel the horror of war, but that's just to make people respect the sacrifices of our brave soldiers who died for our freedumz. It's cast as a necessary evil, not as a pointless evil, which is what it should be cast as.

 

[phill4paul]

Sure it was meant to make people feel the horror of war, but that's just to make people respect the sacrifices of our brave soldiers who died for our freedumz. It's cast as a necessary evil, not as a pointless evil, which is what it should be cast as.

 

[Antischism]

I am honestly quite befuddled that more than one person on this thread has expressed a similar opinion to this. How can you not see the messages of blind patriotism? It may not be pro-war, per se, but that has never really been the aim of the propaganda. The goal is to make people feel for the sacrifices of our brave military and not think twice about why they have to do these things.

Yeah, you don't have to look very far to see the kind of sentiment held by people who flooded theaters to watch this film.

I imagine this is a pretty decent representation of a sizable segment of American movie-goers.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I'd probably get shot if I went and saw it. Last couple chest thumping USA movies I went and watched, I could not stop but laugh at the retardation before me. Cheaper just to wait for dvd or online streaming.

 

[Mani]

Sure it was meant to make people feel the horror of war, but that's just to make people respect the sacrifices of our brave soldiers who died for our freedumz. It's cast as a necessary evil, not as a pointless evil, which is what it should be cast as.

This.

I haven't seen it, but the trailers alone make me think, "Gosh darn it, war is hell! We soldiers had to do some despicable things to protect your freedoms! We have to live with these horrors to save lives! You need to understand our sacrifice, oh poor me and my pain and suffering to kill children to keep you free and save my fellow men in arms! Look at what these evil arabs did, they made me kill women and children! They are so evil to do that to me!! War is hell, we had to make some difficult choices, but doggarnit, we saved Murika! USA! USA! USA!"

 

[UWDude]

They had a good Ad placement for it today. The beginning of the Packers vs Seahawks playoff game today started with a beautifully sang national anthem with jets, and fireworks that it would bring a tear to your eye. As soon as the last note of the anthem ended it went right into an American Sniper commercial. lol

In the bar I was in, about 6 people clapped and cheered after the national anthem. The other 150 didn't... ...at all.

And I noticed the trailer for American Sniper right afterward. That didn't surprise me.

 

[FloralScent]

I wonder how he would've fared with a Simo Häyhä or Matthäus Hetzenauer shooting back at him.

 

[ConvertedRepublican]

I will NEVER, repeat NEVER, allow anything with Clint Eastwood in it to pollute my senses ever again.
Damn shame, I used to love the Dollar movies.