Amendments the Patriot Act violated

[dude58677]

Amendment 1: If you look up certain things online such as militia websites the NSA will start labeling you as a domestic terrorist.

Amendment 2: Say you support militia groups and buy guns online the NSA will then go to the FISA Court and have the gun confiscated.

Amendment 4: Same as amendment 2. You might be arrested for terrorism because you purchased a gun and said you support militia groups. The warrant will be rubber stamped by FISA. The gun will be confiscated as well.

Amendment 5: No due process.

Amendment 6: No due process and therefore no fair speedy trial.

Amendment 8: As you are labeled a terrorist you will then be sent to Guantanino Bay where you will be tortured.

Amendment 9: No right to privacy.

Amendment 10: Local police can't police their own people esp when guns and militia groups are fully legal in a certain State or local jurisdiction.

I know I am preaching to the choir but this is the list of violations of the Bill of Rights that the Patriot Act Authroized when it existed. This post is a celebration of what Rand has ended at least publicly.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Words on paper are useless if one doesn't have the firepower to enforce them. Good luck taking on the regime's armed forces.

 

[dude58677]

Words on paper are useless if one doesn't have the firepower to enforce them. Good luck taking on the regime's armed forces.

Rand certainly did his best to enforce them.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Rand certainly did his best to enforce them.

I put more weight on results than intent. When the enforcer class is truly disarmed and scared shitless of violating folks' rights, I'll be happy WRT this issue.

 

[dude58677]

I put more weight on results than intent. When the enforcer class is truly disarmed and scared shitless of violating folks' rights, I'll be happy WRT this issue.

There's more work to be done certainly but this is still a step in the right direction.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

There's more work to be done certainly but this is still a step in the right direction.

Is there an actual plan to do this (go all the way in the right direction to the destination) or do you just make shit up as you go along? The occasional pyrrhic victory (like the FED audit) aren't very convincing to me.

 

[nayjevin]

Is there an actual plan to do this (go all the way in the right direction to the destination) or do you just make shit up as you go along? The occasional pyrrhic victory (like the FED audit) aren't very convincing to me.

Perhaps a fair point but that seems unduly directed negatively @ dude58677

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[heavenlyboy34]

Perhaps a fair point but that seems unduly directed negatively @ dude58677

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Thanks

Sorry. I meant "you" in the second person plural (all Constitutionalists, including dude). I should've been clearer. Thnx. ~hugs~

 

[Dianne]

Name your organization anything like "Patriot Act" or the "U.S. Freedom Act", and you will be called a militia group. I guess the Feds just want a monopoly on those names.. they sound good, they fool people, as the true tyranny is being crammed down their throats.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

Words on paper are useless if one doesn't have the firepower to enforce them. Good luck taking on the regime's armed forces.

This is why Article V exists. It is "alter or abolish" codified as law so we can amend government destructive to rights out of business.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I put more weight on results than intent. When the enforcer class is truly disarmed and scared shitless of violating folks' rights, I'll be happy WRT this issue.

No need to disarm them if state and federal courts are able to make constitutional decisions. And they increasingly cannot.

However, law enforcements possession of military grade weapons needs to be ended. Such reek of a war on the people. This while the federal government is increasingly impinging or destroying unalienable rights justifies a lawful and peaceful revolution.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution