Amash Quits Republican Party

[susano]

Why are there so many trump fans here now?
Did all the smart people give up and move to the woods after 2012?

Fan is not a word I'd use. The answer regarding his support, imho, is because we're facing a total takeover by Marxists.

 

[Swordsmyth]

As I suspected, he wants to retire, and apparently he is going down in a blaze of glory on his way out the door.

A splash of disgrace.

 

[susano]

Wrong. I see the whole $#@! house coming down at some point. I’m trying to delay it for the sake of my family and neighbors.

Trump is a blessing compared to Hillary and has allowed us some time and a fighting chance. Now we need to fight smart if we wish to right this without the violent revolution some here seem to lust over.

The needle is in a much better position than I could have imagined a few years ago. The life of the unborn being the most important.

For the time remaining, I’m going to support men who have an actual chance at fixing things in the current state things are in now. I don’t idolize him, but he happens to be the best President in my lifetime in slowing down the collapse and I do support him even as I don’t support him on certain things.

It’s the left and the fakestream media who is brainwashing people into thinking that if there is one single reason why you think Trump is bad, then you have to support the other party and hate him.

These antics work in low IQ individuals or those who have devoted themselves to some passion and are blinded to anything else around them.

What is going on with the boycott of the MSM for the parade should be clear to even a child, namely, that they are actively plotting against him. And for those who still have the delusion that he is some pawn for the DS even after this, than I fear there may be little hope for them.

Trump is the best shot we have. Maybe not the most constitutional or best mannered, but the best in terms of realistic chance in turning the ship in a better direction, as imperfect and unfinished as it is

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TER again.


People really ought to read some first hand accounts of the Bolshevik revolution in order to fully grasp what we're up against. We've reached the tipping point and are out of time. Were I to wait around for my ideal candidate, I'd be looking like this:

 

[susano]

Why do you object to my saying that? AF didn't.

I don't object to your saying anything. I simply disagree with your implication that AF is a Nazi

 

[Superfluous Man]

I don't object to your saying anything. I simply disagree with your implication that AF is a Nazi

I didn't imply that he was a Nazi. Not all stormfronters are Nazis. But he is a white nationalist. And I don't think he pretends otherwise. Aren't you one too?

 

[ProBlue33]

Why are there so many trump fans here now?
Did all the smart people give up and move to the woods after 2012?

So many people are so high on their self-righteous standards they don't care if Trump wins or loses, and they only see the now, but some at RPF saw the long game, which even now is being played out.
The country is so badly divided everything is being challenged in court even basic political issues that any American administration should be able to decide. Even questions on a national census, how crazy is that?
The end game for real power in America is the supreme court, why do you think the DNC is fighting so hard to stop Trumps picks. If he wins again he will tilt the scales for decades. A left leaning court could strike down many things libertarians hold dear, even reinterpret the 2nd amendment like Harris is talking about making an executive order to ban guns in some form, that goes to the supreme, and you want conservative judges striking that down as unconstitutional, not some liberals saying "what the founders really meant was only the modern equivalent of the Militia which is the National Guard can own weapons". If that ever happened you might even have a second civil war or military coup as LEO's and current military and ex-military would never willing give up their personal guns in many states.

The long game of power in America is the supreme court, it's sad it has come to this, but it started when they basically picked Bush over Gore in 2000.
I see it and many on RPF see it, as Brain said Trump is a "Douchebag".....BUT if he is picking conservative leaning judges...much can be forgiven.
And really better him, than all these fools that want to give free health care to all illegal immigrants, but some poor 6th generation American black kid from Chicago can't even get a broken arm fixed because he doesn't have the proper coverage.

As for Amash he let his personal dealings with his connections in China with his business take precedent over his own party, he perhaps thought there might be chance to get Trump......but how has every other GOP person that tried this in the last 3 years fared....not well, and he thought he was special...even more special than that traitor Romney who also failed at trying to get Trump.

 

[nikcers]

I didn't imply that he was a Nazi. Not all stormfronters are Nazis. But he is a white nationalist. And I don't think he pretends otherwise. Aren't you one too?

muh racism

 

[susano]

So, using that same logic, this is the reason the Wall hasn't been built:
If Trump thinks migrants in the U.S. illegally are dangerous, why has he hired so many of them?
ttps://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-ol-2-enter-the-fray-if-trump-thinks-undocumented-migrants-1546619872-htmlstory.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/tiny-costa-rica-town-full-of-undocumented-workers-at-trumps-new-jersey-golf-course-wapo
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...ted-workers-are-employed-at-trump-golf-course

I agree with you on that point and have always felt that Trump completely misses the mark (what's new?) when making his case about illegals. Yes, some are dangerous and we don't need foreign criminals on top of the ones we already have but, the real threat with uncontrolled immigration is a burgeoning underclass of poor people who are going to crash our system, Cloward & Piven style. If this isn't stopped, it's going to be one big plantation of peasants who are going to vote for Marxists based upon false promises of getting piece of the pie. IWO, the US will become California, a one party state that's quickly becoming a real sh*thole - unless you're filthy rich.

 

[susano]

I didn't imply that he was a Nazi. Not all stormfronters are Nazis. But he is a white nationalist. And I don't think he pretends otherwise. Aren't you one too?

I rest my case.

 

[Swordsmyth]

More enemies celebrating the political suicide of one of the best voting records around.


Justin Amash is no longer a House Rep is what this should be titled, it is just as sure as if it already happened.

 

[RonZeplin]

More enemies celebrating the political suicide of one of the best voting records around.


Justin Amash is no longer a House Rep is what this should be titled, it is just as sure as if it already happened.

Fake News from Mz Cleo.

 

[susano]

Just for the record, the last 3 president we had railed against the wars. Bush said he did not want to be the world's police man, Obama criticized the Iraq war mistake, and same goes for Trump. If that is what convinced you then you haven't been paying attention. How is it that people are still falling for this trick?

While I'll admit that Trump's sabre rattling and appointing neocons has made me extremely nervous, has he gotten us into a war? Bush destroyed Iraq and mired the US in Afghanistan and Obama oversaw the the destruction of Iraq and Syria and the coup in Ukraine. Trump actually troops out of Syria - against a lot of pressure in the other direction. Sometimes I wonder if his bombastic talk and brinkmanship isn't all just "Art of the Deal". It certainly looks that way with North Korea. So, I'm not seeing anything like the destruction brought upon the world by Bush and Obama.

 

[susano]

Lowest unemployment in history, people abort babies because they can't afford them.

No. That may be part of the reason for some, that's way too simplistic. Further, the poorer people are, the more kids they tend to produce. The more affluent a society becomes, the birthrate drops.

 

[susano]

You think the sizeable number of women who abort their children do so because they can't afford it? I thought the welfare system in this country took care of that and birth control and condoms are way cheaper than abortions. This is just not true.

I present to you pro life Donald Trump

Have you ever changed your mind in your life? How about changed any opinions you held in 1999? Trump seems to have re-thought or actually thought deeply about this issue and sincerely changed his position.

 

[Swordsmyth]

His SCOTUS appointees are nothing special by GOP standards. On the abortion issue Kavanaugh in particular is mediocre at best, and quite possibly much worse. I like the defunding, but it looks like something that can be easily gotten around, and like most other symbolic pro-life gestures I've gotten used to seeing from Republicans, may not actually accomplish anything.

Gorsuch is the best and most libertarian member of the court and Kavanaugh is a distinct improvement over Kennedy who wouldn't have retired if he didn't get to choose Kavanaugh.

 

[susano]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...r-presidency&p=6415322&viewfull=1#post6415322



He is literally an ally of the MSM.

Wow. Thanks for that.

 

[Ender]

I agree with you on that point and have always felt that Trump completely misses the mark (what's new?) when making his case about illegals. Yes, some are dangerous and we don't need foreign criminals on top of the ones we already have but, the real threat with uncontrolled immigration is a burgeoning underclass of poor people who are going to crash our system, Cloward & Piven style. If this isn't stopped, it's going to be one big plantation of peasants who are going to vote for Marxists based upon false promises of getting piece of the pie. IWO, the US will become California, a one party state that's quickly becoming a real sh*thole - unless you're filthy rich.

My comment on another post:

All the rabble about socialism/communists etc is a ruse to keep us all fighting with each other while the last vestige of liberty blows away. Everyone is so indoctrinated & so in the Matrix that they fight to keep their prison walls secure, w/o a clue where they really are.

There will be no freedom until the name-calling/finger-pointing stops & we start working together. We don't have to agree on everything but the hater-crap has got to stop, or we are lost.

 

[susano]

My comment on another post:

All the rabble about socialism/communists etc is a ruse to keep us all fighting with each other while the last vestige of liberty blows away. Everyone is so indoctrinated & so in the Matrix that they fight to keep their prison walls secure, w/o a clue where they really are.

There will be no freedom until the name-calling/finger-pointing stops & we start working together. We don't have to agree on everything but the hater-crap has got to stop, or we are lost.

Okay but are you refuting what I said about the real reason uncontrolled immigration will destroy the US?

 

[devil21]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TER again.


People really ought to read some first hand accounts of the Bolshevik revolution in order to fully grasp what we're up against. We've reached the tipping point and are out of time. Were I to wait around for my ideal candidate, I'd be looking like this:

It's comments like that where I wonder what the hell is going on and whether some people are thinking at all?

Trump's history is filled with Bolsheviks, his closest family members in the WH with him are Bolsheviks, his entire cabinet is Bolsheviks. He spent his entire career donating to Democrats, hanging out with Democrats, making deals with Democrats, being bailed out of failed businesses by elite bankers (who are....surprise! Bolsheviks!) but suddenly because he says a few things and put the "R" behind his name, he's fighting Bolsheviks?!?! Do you even know who the Bolsheviks were or do you just regurgitate the word because you heard it on Breitbart?

What on earth are you people smoking??? This isn't even about avoiding the more evil choice. It's not about sitting around waiting for an ideal candidate. It's about being even moderately smart enough to recognize, finally, that there are no choices except Bolsheviks allowed any more. It's amazing how easily some people fall for very, very elementary mind tricks by the political establishment to ensure only their approved candidates get anywhere near positions of (perceived) power.

 

[nikcers]

It's comments like that where I wonder what the hell is going on and whether some people are thinking at all?

Trump's history is filled with Bolsheviks, his closest family members in the WH with him are Bolsheviks, his entire cabinet is Bolsheviks. He spent his entire career donating to Democrats, hanging out with Democrats, making deals with Democrats, being bailed out of failed businesses by elite bankers (who are....surprise! Bolsheviks!) but suddenly because he says a few things and put the "R" behind his name, he's fighting Bolsheviks?!?! Do you even know who the Bolsheviks were or do you just regurgitate the word because you heard it on Breitbart?

What on earth are you people smoking??? This isn't even about avoiding the more evil choice. It's not about sitting around waiting for an ideal candidate. It's about being even moderately smart enough to recognize, finally, that there are no choices except Bolsheviks allowed any more. It's amazing how easily some people fall for very, very elementary mind tricks by the political establishment to ensure only their approved candidates get anywhere near positions of (perceived) power.

You can sit around and wait for the perfect person to come along for the rest of your life. I see a real debate going on right now. One side wants to rewrite the constitution, rewrite history, get rid of capitalism, I am going to do everything I can to stop it. You can sit around waiting for the perfect candidate.