Amash is saying Trump has engaged in an impeachable offense

devil21 said:
Don't waste your time. CaptainAmerica is a troll account.

As if sourcing business from China, like 90% of manufacturing related businesses had to do to some extent over the last 20 years to remain in business, makes one suddenly not a libertarian. By my estimation, he's probably the only truly libertarian Congressman in DC. Lots of lukewarm types or outright frauds but he's the real deal imo.
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Yeah. It is unfucking believeable that Bryan has allowed these forums to become Swordsmyth vs Zippy. Neither of them are actually supporting Libertarians - they just lecture us on why we shouldn't.
 
angelatc said:
Yeah. It is unfucking believeable that Bryan has allowed these forums to become Swordsmyth vs Zippy. Neither of them are actually supporting Libertarians - they just lecture us on why we shouldn't.
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A great man once said,
“We don’t have freedom of speech so we can talk about the weather. We have the 1st Amendment so that we can say very controversial things.”
"If you don't protect Liberty across the board, if you have inconsistency then you're really not defending liberty"

angelatc said:
CaptainAmerica ia sarcasm. And TheTexan is brilliant satire. Welcome, but don't waste your time around here. Trump killed us.
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Speak for yourself. I'm still kickin'. :up:
 
GunnyFreedom said:
Obstruction is stupid.

Probably 43 out of 45 Presidents have arguably committed “Impeachable Offenses.” If Amash had been serious he’d have based his complaint on any one of several actual overreaches. Honestly I think he’s just trying to position himself as an independent and citing “obstruction” because it’s an easy flog and everyone knows it’s not going anywhere. End of the day it’s a strategic mistake multiplied by his decision not to cite a more compelling cause.

At this point, every President since Nixon has done impeachable things almost on the daily. Bush was like an 8 on a 1-10 impeachable scale. Obama a 9. Trump is at like a 4 or a 5. Ultimately this comes off as ill considered and virtue signally.

He’d have done less shooting himself in the foot if he had at least picked a different cause. And his timing was crap.

If his complaint was the Executive bumpstock ban and his timing was when Trump was making pro red flag noises, (or whatever version of that same process that has more appeal to his home District) he would have gained some celebrity without losing nearly as much credibility.

Bad subject bad timing, and now his public perception is so far out of whack he’ll probably never get it back. He could have done everything he needed to here without the tactical and strategic mistakes.
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GUNNY......... Ms.Nancy Pelosi has the votes in the House to complicate Mr. Mitt Romney's life, as he tries to flipflop
his quasi-French derriere safely past the idea that the Senators can vote to convict or abstain or acquit. i must now
pop some gourmet popcorn. this all is going to be longer than the Kavanaugh hearings. it is like Watergate. indeedy.
 
Our worst fears have started to come true and other Republicans have started to join Amash's call. If this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections:


Two Republican governors say they support Trump impeachment inquiry
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...inquiry-trump/



SHOCK POLL: Support For Trump Impeachment Swings 13 Points in Just Days

Sep 26th, 2019
The first polling on the question of whether or not President Donald Trump should be impeached since House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that she’s supporting an impeachment inquiry shows a major swing — one which leaves the public split right down the middle.
According to the Morning Consult, there has been a 13 point swing in favor of impeachment in just a matter of days. The new poll, taken from Sept. 24-26, shows the public in a 43-43 deadlock on the question of whether Congress should begin impeachment proceedings to remove Trump from office. The same poll, conducted from Sept. 20-22, shows 36 in favor of beginning impeachment proceedings, with 49 percent opposed — a massive swing in such a short period of time.
Democrats, Independents and — perhaps surprisingly — Republicans all showed an increase in impeachment support, according to the Morning Consult. Seventy-nine percent of Democrats now favor Trump impeachment, up from 66 a few days ago, with Independent support jumping to 39 from 33, and the Republican number increasing from 5 to 10.
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...-in-just-days/


Support for impeachment jumps in new poll
09/26/2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-trump-1515012
 
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enhanced_deficit said:
Our worst fears have started to come true and other Republicans have started to join Amash's call. If this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections:
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Well put.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to enhanced_deficit again."
 
enhanced_deficit said:
Our worst fears have started to come true and other Republicans have started to join Amash's call. If this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections:


Two Republican governors say they support Trump impeachment inquiry
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...inquiry-trump/



SHOCK POLL: Support For Trump Impeachment Swings 13 Points in Just Days

Sep 26th, 2019
The first polling on the question of whether or not President Donald Trump should be impeached since House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that she’s supporting an impeachment inquiry shows a major swing — one which leaves the public split right down the middle.
According to the Morning Consult, there has been a 13 point swing in favor of impeachment in just a matter of days. The new poll, taken from Sept. 24-26, shows the public in a 43-43 deadlock on the question of whether Congress should begin impeachment proceedings to remove Trump from office. The same poll, conducted from Sept. 20-22, shows 36 in favor of beginning impeachment proceedings, with 49 percent opposed — a massive swing in such a short period of time.
Democrats, Independents and — perhaps surprisingly — Republicans all showed an increase in impeachment support, according to the Morning Consult. Seventy-nine percent of Democrats now favor Trump impeachment, up from 66 a few days ago, with Independent support jumping to 39 from 33, and the Republican number increasing from 5 to 10.
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...-in-just-days/


Support for impeachment jumps in new poll
09/26/2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-trump-1515012
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Does the public get to vote on impeachment or Congress?
 
the Senate gets to convict him, if need be, if he is guilty of the abuse of power.
the House initiates the Senate Trial by having a key vote, after a debate. Good Q!
 
the public gets to vote in the fall elections of 2020. i cannot see how any impeachment trial can be over with before X-mas.
 
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angelatc said:
Yeah. It is unfucking believeable that Bryan has allowed these forums to become Swordsmyth vs Zippy. Neither of them are actually supporting Libertarians - they just lecture us on why we shouldn't.
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That was NEVER a libertarian forum. Surely, you know that. You've been around as long as I have.
 
enhanced_deficit said:
Our worst fears have started to come true and other Republicans have started to join Amash's call. If this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections:]
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That's pretty stupid conclusion, don't you think? I don't particular want Elizabeth Warren, but perhaps you do.
 
LibertyEagle said:
That's pretty stupid conclusion, don't you think? I don't particular want Elizabeth Warren, but perhaps you do.
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f this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections
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Is this conclusion accurate or not? If this drip drip bleeding of Republicans/former supporters support continued (GOA, Foxnews, Coulter, Drudge Report, Mattis, Kasich, Tea Party leaders jumping ship so far), won't GOP-Sheldon Adelson wing suffer irreparable damage in 2020?
There is already increasing discomfort within America-First GOP factions over leaks that MAGA's top donor was Israeli military soldier who wanted their children to serve in Isreali military instead of American.
There is no chance of GOPA wing coming back (at least as Republicans) if it did not survive 2020.

As for your projection about EW being the only alternative, why are you completely ruling out possibility of Rand, Sanford, Pence or some other Republican rising to the occasion and assuming that Right wing globalist neocons or Left wing globalist wing neocons funded politicians are the only two options?
It was mindset like this that led to 8 years of "anti war" neocons agenda propagation by Obama under #FoolMe1.0 flip-flop campaign.
 
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