Alex Jones Retraction and Our Reaction

[Duckman]

Unfortunately I think Ron Paul supporters need to accept that Ron is actively courting 9/11 conspiracy theorists, otherwise he wouldn't appear on Alex Jones' show, he wouldn't be photographed meeting with truther groups, etc. We must accept that this is the case. Complaining about it will not help. Ron WANTS this association.

I agree that this association is very damaging to Ron Paul. Until you actually become a truther, the ideas of truthers are very unpalatable. This is because everyone wants to believe (and is indoctrinated to believe) that the U.S. is above conducting false flag operations. It's kind of like how, thanks to the popular brainwashing, it's difficult to accept that marijuana isn't evil and terrible until you actually try it.

I hope that a majority of Republicans believe in 9/11 truth within the next six months, because that is unfortunately the only way I see Ron getting nominated if Ron continues to be associated with 9/11 truth.

 

[osofaux]

While everyone here was arguing over what damages Paul's campaign, dozens of people may have read this thread and then found someone else to vote for because of it.

 

[micahnelson]

I agree to an extent. For the most part we were discussing ideas and it remained somewhat civil, at least by current web standards. I do agree it is time to clear the air though.

 

[Nickel]

I learned about Ron Paul through the debates and I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

Also, 9/11 was directly related to our misguided foreign policy and the failure to prevent 9/11 was the direct result of the ignorance of the Bush administration. I think I have seen a clip, maybe it was one of the debates, where Ron Paul basically says this. Wasn't the whole Giuliani argument basically over this too? Ron doesn't blame Americans for 9/11 but American foreign policy - just like police aren't blaming the victim of a murder when they're looking for a motive.

If Ron Paul is going to be associated with the whole 9/11 conspiracy movement (which is fringe and certainly not the base of his support), then his campaign is finished. Seriously.

I don't believe he's part of this absurd theory, but it looks like a little damage has been done. Do a Google News search for Ron Paul, this "article" is near the top:
http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/07/13/ron-paul-conspiracy-theorist/

Not good advertising.

 

[RonPaulGetsIt]

This is my opinion on the situation. Ron Paul realized long ago that he didn't want to be labeled a truther and alienate all the people out there who will believe the official story. I agree with that strategy. Ron Paul is the ultimate defender of liberty and the consitution are what is necessary to bring back the checks and balances required for a free society. Let's not over complicate things here. For Ron Paul to say we are in danger of a Gulf of Tonkin type of attack simply means that. If we have a terrorist attack in the future and Bush declares dictatorial power lets view this with our eyes open.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

The 9/11 Truthers and the Alex Jones conspiracy nuts need to stop using Ron Paul's campaign as a platform for their radical agendas. Do you know how often I have to tell people that RP is not a 9/11 Truther? My own dad told me that Ron Paul is a nutjob because of his link to Alex Jones. CUT IT OUT.

 

[Dan Klaus]

yikes...I learned about Ron Paul through Alex Jones website and radio show airing in Austin...unfortunately, the nature of politics is that RP needs to distance himself from Alex if he is to be pallitable to the masses....as for the forum - hell I like the passion and hope it gets channeled to getting Dr. Paul elected..

 

[Spirit of '76]

There are paid provocateurs and saboteurs who have been assigned the specific task to come here and repeatedly knock Alex Jones, Aaron Russo, 9-11 truth in an attempt to divide true Ron Paul supporters and to slow the massive growth of the Ron Paul campaign.

egnore this thread

That's right!

They're here to stop us from spreading the Truth! Everyone knows that as soon as we can convince the "Republican base" that the government did 9/11, they'll all want to vote for Ron Paul anyway.

That's why the Truth about 9/11 should be our priority.

Fuck Rudy. Ron Paul is the True President of 9/11, and we're going to make sure everyone knows it.

 

[batman00]

Well here is Alex Jones Response to your Retraction Demand:

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/140707nodoubting.htm

 

[PatriotOne]

The 9/11 Truthers and the Alex Jones conspiracy nuts need to stop using Ron Paul's campaign as a platform for their radical agendas.

I think Ron Paul needs to distance himself from the 9/11 Conspiracy Deniers. They are obviously of low intelligence and probably wear wife-beater T-Shirts, are unclean and unshaven, have a beer in one hand, and a Ron Paul sign in the other.
People of low intelliegence should NOT be associated with Ron Paul.

 

[PatriotOne]

Well here is Alex Jones Response to your Retraction Demand:

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/140707nodoubting.htm

Good job truth deniers. Looks like all you whining got little "blowback". How strange it wasn't the "truthers" on the board that made THAT happen

 

[torchbearer]

if its true its true.

 

[ronpaulitician]

Ron Paul has stated that he does not believe our government was behind 9/11. He has stated that he wants our military forces to go after the one responsible for 9/11: Osama bin Laden.

Alex Jones believes our own government killed thousands of people on 9/11. I happen to believe our government is not capable of keeping something like that secret.

I believe Ron Paul wants citizens to always be critical of their government, and question their every action. I believe this is why Ron Paul appears on Alex Jones's show. He may completely disagree with the conclusions that Alex draws, but he probably admires his passionate questioning of authority.

People that do not like to question authority are not likely to vote for Ron Paul. We should not have a hard time convincing those that do question authority that Paul does not believe our own government was directly behind 9/11.

 

[Spirit of '76]

I think Ron Paul needs to distance himself from the 9/11 Conspiracy Deniers. They are obviously of low intelligence and probably wear wife-beater T-Shirts, are unclean and unshaven, have a beer in one hand, and a Ron Paul sign in the other.
People of low intelliegence should NOT be associated with Ron Paul.

Yeah!

Anyone who can't see that 9/11 was an inside job is a friggin' idiot!

We need to make sure that everybody knows that. Oh, yeah, maybe we can remind 'em to vote for Ron Paul while they're at it.

 

[PatriotOne]

Yeah!

Anyone who can't see that 9/11 was an inside job is a friggin' idiot!

We need to make sure that everybody knows that. Oh, yeah, maybe we can remind 'em to vote for Ron Paul while they're at it.

I assume that it is a great tactic since the Ron Paul truth deniers like to regulary call the Ron Paul truth realists names. Don't you all want us all working from the same play book?

 

[Spirit of '76]

Don't you all want us all working from the same play book?

Yeah, that's exactly what I've been arguing for from the start.

 

[Spirit of '76]

By the way, there are some awesome new photos tagged with "Ron Paul" over on Flickr! Here's my favorite:

Man, those are just the kind of guys we need out there spreading the word and winning over the Republican base!

Keep up the great work, guys! It's stuff like this that is going to secure the Republican nomination for sure!

 

[torchbearer]

By the way, there are some awesome new photos tagged with "Ron Paul" over on Flickr! Here's my favorite:

Man, those are just the kind of guys we need out there spreading the word and winning over the Republican base!

Keep up the great work, guys! It's stuff like this that is going to secure the Republican nomination for sure!

hmm..
If Ron Paul never breaks into the republican base... and thus doesn't get the nomination, would you consider that a contributing factor to him not winning?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I assume that it is a great tactic since the Ron Paul truth deniers like to regulary call the Ron Paul truth realists names. Don't you all want us all working from the same play book?

Ron Paul is not a truther, regardless of how much you or anyone else, want to claim that he is. I know you have worked very hard for this campaign, PatriotOne. Please don't go forth from this thing tying Ron to Jones' 9-11 truther campaign. C'mon.... We have to win the Republican nomination and this is no way to do that.

 

[torchbearer]

If I wanted to defame another candidate, I would find the most non-mainstream supporters of that candidate doing something the mainstream would consider fringe,, then post the picture online with a tag that goes to that candidates name in hopes of driving away voters from the candidate. I actually thought about doing that.... maybe someone is doing that to ron paul?