Alex Jones "Moneybomb".

I practice increase, not income, so I am not eligible to work for a foreign and alien god that you call the federal government.

If Alex were truly an "Enemy of the State", he would be off the air or in prison on a trumped up charge. Irwin Schiff, Ed & Elaine Brown, those people are enemies of the state. Why doesn't Alex talk about the Browns anymore?

Have you ever wondered how Alex managed to "dodge secret service patrols" in the Bohemian Grove & then distribute a video without any prosecution or consequences?

Is it wrong to ask these questions to encourage critical thinking?

Is a belief in the new world order predicated upon a blind faith in the behaviors and expressions of Alex Jones? How is it that Alex can criticize the mainstream media for lying about the new world order, and then turn around and use their propaganda as "documented and admitted evidence" of the current police state of affairs? Alex's response would probably be something along the lines of 'because these people are sick arrogant psychopaths'. Then how does Alex know what is true and what is false? Are Alex and other patriot broadcasters unknowingly spreading disinformation?

I've supported Alex, I contributed to his first moneybomb, I enjoy his videos, and I enjoy his radio show. My conclusion is that Alex is not a means to an end.

I'm no expert, but given the acreage of the Bohemian Grove I could easily circumvent security if I needed to. Buy a pair of russian nightvision goggles for a few hundred bucks and make my journey in the dead of night. if I didn't live in New Orleans , LA I would try every year.

Alex may spread disinfo unbeknown to him, after all he does cite a lot of MSM. So the chances of a few pieces of shit info getting through the cracks are likely. But I would have to say that its less shit info than on ANY other media source. Unlike most "anchors", Alex directly owns his media outlet and stands to lose everything if what he reports turns out to be a downright lie/fallacy. MSM News anchors can just blame the source and move on to the next sports story and weather.

Why is Alex Jones still around some say? Why hasn't he been taken out? Alex Jones has an ARMY. Do you really want to ruffle that crowd's feathers and make a martyr out of him? What good would that do the government when Bermas would step right in? The voice would not be silenced, only strengthened. They are trying, although unsuccessfully, to discredit him in every possible way.

Most importantly, no one can take ANY news outlet as gospel. Not MSM, not Rockwell, not any source. They only give pieces of a puzzle that the end user must interpret. I choose to stand up for Alex Jones, after all if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. Alex hits the streets, he bullhorns washington, live shows, foreign government's heads of state, all while talking about real issues. Can you tell me of ANY other "anchor" or "investigative reporter" doing anything close to that ?

I'll be waiting.

ps: not directed pacelli, just used his comment to structure a response, anyone can chime in.
 
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I practice increase, not income, so I am not eligible to work for a foreign and alien god that you call the federal government.

If Alex were truly an "Enemy of the State", he would be off the air or in prison on a trumped up charge. Irwin Schiff, Ed & Elaine Brown, those people are enemies of the state. Why doesn't Alex talk about the Browns anymore?

See, Alex is smart, he is out in the public a lot and he is far from quiet about it! He makes it widely known he is not suicidal, nor does he do any kind of illegal drugs. He begged the D.C. Madam (Deborah Jean Palfrey) to publicly come out with the list of names she was going to divulge of her clients in Washington, D.C. in court on April 7, 2008 so, that it would be on record. It could have spared her life had she named names and had been more visible.

YouTube - Fox News: Alex Jones on DC Madam Palfrey's Murder

Irwin Schiff and Ed and Elaine Brown did not make themselves visible enough. Ed Brown, in my opinion, let his guard down by allowing so many people on his property. Irwin Schiff had to be gagged because he was educating people just like Joe Bannister. Joe Bannister has made himself much more visible, nevertheless.

What would you like Alex Jones to say about Ed & Elaine Brown? Ed is in Connecticut Federal Prison (last I heard) and Elaine was quietly tucked away in a Federal Prison in Texas.

Have you ever wondered how Alex managed to "dodge secret service patrols" in the Bohemian Grove & then distribute a video without any prosecution or consequences?

No, I never have. If you remember Alex was not as well known as he is today. Alex did the absolute critical thing by getting that tape mass produced and out into the public immediately. Once the cat was out of the bag and if, the feds were to arrest him over his sneaking in, it would have drawn much more attention to their masters NAMBLA outings and would have been a public embarrassment for security was apparently lax at this time in the Grove.

YouTube - Nixon Tape Discusses Homosexuals at Bohemian Grove

Is it wrong to ask these questions to encourage critical thinking?

Absolutely not! That is what I encourage people to do is ask questions and seek the truth.

Is a belief in the new world order predicated upon a blind faith in the behaviors and expressions of Alex Jones? How is it that Alex can criticize the mainstream media for lying about the new world order, and then turn around and use their propaganda as "documented and admitted evidence" of the current police state of affairs? Alex's response would probably be something along the lines of 'because these people are sick arrogant psychopaths'. Then how does Alex know what is true and what is false? Are Alex and other patriot broadcasters unknowingly spreading disinformation?

A lot of the information is hidden in plain view. By that I mean you have to know that these evil elitist are grounded in a belief that they will garner control--world domination. Their overconfidence and arrogance will be their undoing. The agenda they seek is nothing new, as far as history is concerned. That's why the adage; "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it."

They have corrupted ever aspect in our free society; all three branches of government, the school houses, the free press and the ballot box . They consistently ignore the Constitution but they do not have all the plans in place. If they move too quickly more people will see it, that is why they have done it incrementally for nearly 100 years, in this country.

However, they (the elitist) did not count on people waking from their slumber and educating themselves or having people like Alex Jones spearheading the awakening. They are banking on Americans to be so lazy or too inundated with sports, toys and other distractions, that they will not research the information that Alex Jones and others have brought forth. This has been the chink in their armor. IMHO.


I've supported Alex, I contributed to his first moneybomb, I enjoy his videos, and I enjoy his radio show. My conclusion is that Alex is not a means to an end.


You are absolutely right! The means to an end lies within each and every one of us. The question is, do you want the elitist to continue their tight grip around your neck or do you stand with people like Alex Jones that wants liberty and freedom for all and to get mad as hell and not be willing to take their crap anymore...the choice is absolutely yours to make.

Caveat: Time is of the essence. Liberty's door is starting to close.
 
Alex is like Sean Hannity and the others. He is on air to get listeners and make $$$$$.

Alex is like Sean and the others, in that he will yell and scream about problems and yell through a bullhorn in front of a camera, but none if that is changing anything.

He should be posting numbers for representatives on a daily basis to support RP's "audit the FED" bill or even RP's "tax free tips" bill, instead of yelling about food coloring in his kids cereals.

Almost every time I've listened to him, he says, "I've got a lot of news to cover" and never covers any of it because he is crying/yelling about chemicals in the water or something, but providing no solution other than the Burkey(which is just like a basic water filter I can buy from a local store).
 
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Alex is like Sean Hannity and the others. He is on air to get listeners and make $$$$$.

Alex is like Sean Hannity--- in what way? I think it is safe to assume Alex Jones is on radio and internet streams to get listeners. Are you anti-free market?

Alex is like Sean and the others, in that he will yell and scream about problems and yell through a bullhorn in front of a camera, but none if that is changing anything.

You base this on what evidence?


He should be posting numbers for representatives on a daily basis to support RP's "audit the FED" bill or even RP's "tax free tips" bill, instead of yelling about food coloring in his kids cereals.

I guess you missed all the times he has had Ron Paul on his show and has supported him emphatically. Alex went on air shaming those listeners who have not supported the Ron Paul campaign and he and his wife both maxed their contributions to Ron Paul.

YouTube - Ron Paul on the Alex Jones Show 08/28/07 (1 of 2)

Almost every time I've listened to him, he says, "I've got a lot of news to cover" and never covers any of it because he is crying/yelling about chemicals in the water or something, but providing no solution other than the Burkey(which is just like a basic water filter I can buy from a local store).

The Berkey water filter is not like any average water filter you can buy in the store. It is a reverse osmosis process and they also offer filters that can remove 99% arsenic and fluoride from your water. Average water filtration systems, in retail stores, do not offer that, at least not any that I am aware of.

The solution is for you to be better informed, and to take the information and help inform others. I cannot understand why that is such a hard concept?
 
Looks pretty sweet to me. Listening to the guy on air, I thought he was struggling to make it. Doesn't look to me like he's struggling.
 
He's controlled opposition or simply just playing into it for the money & attention without being that sincere.
 
Until Alex completely opens his accounting I dont think anyone should give him money. Ever since he fawned over Kevin Trudeau while having him on his show Ive grown to mistrust him.
 
Until Alex completely opens his accounting I dont think anyone should give him money. Ever since he fawned over Kevin Trudeau while having him on his show Ive grown to mistrust him.
Are you talking about this guy? What happened on the show... I didn't hear about this?
Kevin Mark Trudeau (born February 6, 1963) is an American author, infomercial salesman, convicted felon, founder of the International Pool Tour, self-proclaimed alternative medicine advocate and an unsuccessful defendant in several Federal Trade Commission (FTC) lawsuits. He is known for a number of television infomercials promoting his products and for authoring several books including Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You to Know About.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau
 
Oh my god are you telling me Kevin Mark Trudeau was on Alex Jones' show? I just saw John Stossel's hitpeice on him yesterday & woke up this morning to one of his infomercials. Another mark against Alex.


BTW heres the interview I just found it on youtube:

YouTube - Alex Jones - Kevin Trudeau 5-26-09 Part 5/7

John Stossel show discussing Kevin:

YouTube - John Stossel Exposes Liar Kevin Trudeau

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=209687 By the way heres my new thread on Alex Jones discussing his provenly false attack on Cooper.
 
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Talk about "waking up". You can wake up to many things. It is an on-going process and not a single process!
 
I love the advertisement on my screen right now:

"STOP HERPES SIMPLEX OUTBREAKS FOREVER. MedaVir"

Beyond that....I supported Alex Jones' first moneybomb to the tune of over $1k, as did another board member --- this was a while ago and he was doing good work. Alex still does good work sometime. He promised a FULL ACCOUNTING of what the first moneybomb proceeds went to -- he did not do so. He produced a video of his new office, but not a dollar-by-dollar accounting like he promised. If you promise it, produce it.

Now with the boat clip I keep seeing posted. Beyond my angst noted above, so what? Yeah the guy has a boat, on a lake? We aren't talking some big motor-yacht...the guy has a freakin' boat. I see the $750K house links, and maybe I've missed it, but no has proven that it's Alex Jones house...it is a pretty common name, and Zabasearch pops up several of him in Tx in that area. So what if he has a $750k house...maybe his wife had money, maybe he put 5% ($37,500) down in anticipation of growing his show?

Alex is just all over the place, which is why I don't listen to him anymore. One day we think he's dissed Rand Paul, the next day he has him on (my conspiracy theory is so he can see how much his audience raises for him outside the normal moneybomb so he can promote the fact if it's big -- it wasn't) --- then this whole "HUGE NEWS TOMORROW" thing with Scheen's fake Obama interview. I also did not support the 2nd Moneybomb because of the first one, like others here.

Look, and all above is just me as a forum member, Alex Jones isn't afraid to tackle topics the MSM ignores, but he needs to focus on FACTS, LESS EMBELLISHING, LESS CONJECTURE. Every time I tune in it's Webster Tarpley pontificating on how the evil hedge funders (I know hedge funders, some did well, some didn't...an almost free market when watching through the wall street lense) are taking over America, or Texe Marrs on how there is a secret death cult going on in the "highest levels".

I do not think Alex Jones LIES about what he reports, but he certainly twists facts to push fear on occasion. Also with the moneybomb proceeds, who the hell knows. Did he finance his mortgage and buy a boat with them? I doubt it, but only he and his accountant know the workings of Magnolia Management and Free Speech Systems.

I will tune in when a forum member thinks it is worth it, but beyond that....it's twists/turns of the same crap too much to listen everyday.
 
ALex Jones is a mixed bag to me. He over exadurates and says things and says things differently a lot. Back in march I remember him saying they were hiding the real body count, then he went to saying that the flu was no big deal.

As for Sheen's letter. I can understand why he wrote at the END why it wasn't real, he did it so people would read his 20 Points. Pretty smart in my opinion.
 
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