Alex Jones "Moneybomb".

LATruth said:
Yeah, EVEN IF it was fake they saw it on youtube.
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NO NO NO

alex jones is a coward and would not want the govt knowing he said something like that which is precisely why he went on his nationaly syndicated talk show and did this cause it would never get out and tptb would be none the wiser :rolleyes:
 
pacelli said:
Just another link in the chain. As Bill Cooper said, Alex is a "bullshit artist".
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So are you, so am I, so is every capitalist. At least Alex produces something people want. Hell, I watch him. I care not if he buys a boat, and goes skiing, GO ALEX!

Haters.
 
Alex Jones is a crafty fat bastard, he has lied, cheated and it has been alleged murdered his way to the top. He is in short a slightly less gay version of Glen Beck. Anyone who gives him (already a multi-millionaire) money is a hopeless dope.
 
Eric Arthur Blair said:
Alex Jones is a crafty fat bastard, he has lied, cheated and it has been alleged murdered his way to the top. He is in short a slightly less gay version of Glen Beck. Anyone who gives him (already a multi-millionaire) money is a hopeless dope.
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Those are strong allegations.
 
pacelli said:
Just another link in the chain. As Bill Cooper said, Alex is a "bullshit artist".
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You know I constantly hear how much Alex is a bullshit artist because someone else said he was and, they are just parroting that someone else. I must say, I wouldn't know Bill Cooper if I kicked him. Nevertheless, I heard Bill Cooper's show where he called Alex Jones a liar, a fearmonger, etc...with regards to Alex's broadcast on December 31, 1999. So, I took notes and researched because my inquisitive mind wanted to know who the liar really was.

It appears Alex wasn't lying at all. Is it considered fearmongering when you read the headline news from MSM out loud?

Those of you out there who parrot what other people tell you should be ashamed of yourselves if, you call yourselves independent critical thinkers. It took me about 30 minutes to research the information below to find what Alex Jones was reporting, was indeed some of the things he discussed on his broadcast, December 31, 1999. Which Bill Cooper said: (paraphasing) "Are there really hundreds of thousands of people dying in Chechnya?" Well Bill, if you took the time to research that information you might have realized that it was true that those poor Chechens were dying by the hundreds of thousands.


WILLIAM COOPER ON ALEX JONES 12/31/99 RADIO SHOW PT 2 OF 20
YouTube - WILLIAM COOPER ON ALEX JONES 12/31/99 RADIO SHOW PT 2 OF 20

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Excerpts from Wiki on Chechnya:

The majority of the city's civilian population fled following the missile attacks early in the war, leaving the streets mostly deserted. However, as many as 40,000 civilians, many of them ethnic Russians, often the elderly, poor, and infirm, remained trapped in basements during the siege, suffering from the bombing, cold and hunger. Some of them were killed while trying to flee. On December 3, about 40 people died when a refugee convoy attempting to leave besieged areas was fired on by a group of masked special forces troops.[12] Around 250 to 300 people who were killed while trying to escape in October, 1999, between the villages of Goryachevodsk and Petropavlovskaya, were buried in a mass grave.[13][14] The Russian forces besieging Grozny planned to attack the city with a heavy air and artillery bombardment, intending to level the city to the extent where it was impossible for the rebels to defend it. On December 5, Russian planes, which had been dropping bombs on Grozny, switched to leaflets with an ominous warning from the general staff. The Russians set a deadline, urging residents of Grozny to leave "by any means possible by December 11, 1999:
“ Persons who stay in the city will be considered terrorists and bandits and will be destroyed by artillery and aviation. There will be no further negotiations.[15] ”

The Russian commanders prepared a corridor to allow safe passage for those wishing to escape from Grozny, but reports from the war zone suggested few people were using it when it opened on December 11. Desperate refugees who got away were telling stories of bombing, shelling and brutality.[16] Russia put the number of people remaining in Grozny at 15,000, while a group of Chechen exiles in Geneva confirmed other reports estimating the civilian population at 50,000. The Russian troops repeatedly fired on the refugees fleeing along a designated corridor.[17] Russia eventually withdrew the ultimatum in the face of international outrage from the United States and the European Union. British foreign secretary Robin Cook "wholeheartedly condemned" the Russian move: "We condemn vigorously what Milosevic did in Kosovo and we condemn vigorously what Russia is doing in Chechnya".[18]) But the heavy bombardment of the city continued. According to Russia's ministry for emergency situations, civilians remaining in Grozny had been estimated at anywhere from 8,000 to 35,000.[19]

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Chechens – After the documentation of Russian genocide in Chechnya in1994 - 1996 (80.000 victims) and since 1999 (approx.50.000 victims), which most German speaking media reported about, we work closely together with chechnyan women’s organisations for human rights and refugees. We initiated their appearance in European capitals and at international institutions and arranged contact with humanitarian organisations. During two discussions with German foreign minister Fischer and at press conferences we criticized the co-operation of the Federal Republic of Germany with Putin against the chechnyan population (Sergej Kowaljow, Russian human rights activist: "a pragmatism which comes close to prostitution"). The chechnyan partners of the GfbV condemn Chechnyan war crimes just as we do. At a press conference in Bern on 27th September 2001 with the Chechnyan foreign minister Maschadow and the Swiss GfbV chairwoman and member of the national council of the Swiss parliament Ruth-Gabi Vermot-Mangold the Swiss GfbV demanded the application of the Geneva convention on Chechnya.

http://www.gfbv.de/inhaltsDok.php?id=394&PHPSESSID=0aa4cee618e675e3d00e8bfe9c1a3fbe
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Suspected Basque separatists involved in massive explosives theft
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...olved-in-massive-explosives-theft-695332.html

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Three U.S. Nuclear Plants Go Down

Yahoo News
07:21 PM ET 12/31/99

WASHINGTON (AP) _ Three nuclear power plants unexpectedly shut down in South Carolina, Georgia and Pennsylvania as the new year approached, but federal officials said Friday the problems were not Y2K-related and the shutdowns were conducted safely.

``All safety systems at all three reactors are fully operative,'' Energy Secretary Bill Richardson said.

Two of the reactors were shut down Thursday evening _ one in Georgia and another in Pennsylvania _ and the third in South Carolina was reduced to 40 percent power at 1:11 a.m. EST Friday, officials said.

Meanwhile, Richardson said he was ``reasonably confident'' that America's electricity grids will roll into the new year without any major Y2K glitches. The first indicator was expected to come hours before midnight when interconnecting grids that are pegged to Greenwich Mean Time _ five hours ahead of U.S. time zones _ are tested.

Power plant computers are linked to local time, but about a third of the electricity equipment involves the interconnecting grids.

``While we're not ready to declare victory, we are reasonably confident,'' said Richardson, whose department was closely monitoring the electric grids, nuclear power plants and otherenergy sectors.

The three commercial nuclear power plants that shut down were:

_The Catawba reactor, operated by Duke Power Co., in South Carolina. The reason could not immediately been learned, but it was not Y2K-related, officials said.

_The Vogtle reactor, operated by Southern Co., in Georgia. The reason given was an unspecified distribution problem.

_The Limerick reactor, operated by Philadelphia Electric Co., in Pennsylvania, after a transformer problem.

Each of the shutdowns were normal and the plants remained stable, officials said. The utilities switched to other sources of power and there was no interruption of electricity, officials said.

Electric utility executives have expressed optimism that their preparation will lead to smooth transition with no power disruptions.

Richardson, speaking to reporters during a live video linkup with Russia's nuclear minister in Moscow, said he was gratified to hear that Russia's nuclear reactors as well as those in Ukraine handled the Y2K transition smoothly over their 11 time zones.

``This is great news. ... We had some concern about Ukraine,'' said Richardson.

Richardson also reported no indication of any international disruption in oil supplies as the oil-rich Middle East rolled through the transition. If there were any such disruptions, he said was prepared to release oil from the U.S. strategic reserve, and three oil producers _ Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Venezuela _ were committed to increase production.

``So far, we are confident that there will be no interruptions affecting the United States,'' said Richardson. ``We are confident there will be a successful Y2K rollover on electricity, natural gas. There will be enough fuel at all gas stations.''

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Penn. Nuclear Plant Shut Down

December 31, 1999
By The Associated Press
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-BRF-Reactor-Shutdown.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991231/aponline072243_000.htm

LIMERICK, Pa. (AP) -- One of two nuclear reactors at a power plant outside Philadelphia was closed Friday after a piece of equipment failed.

PECO Energy Co. declared an ``unusual event'' at the Limerick Generating Station, but company spokesman Neil McDermott insisted that the problem was not Y2K-related.

An unusual event is the least serious emergency classification for a nuclear power plant.

The 2:55 a.m. shutdown occurred when an insulator on the main generator transformer for Limerick Unit 2 failed, McDermott said. The transformer is non-nuclear equipment used to increase the voltage of the unit's output before sending electricity out to the power distribution system.

``It was all in the conventional part of the power plant. This could happen at a coal plant or hydro plant,'' McDermott said.

The 1,100-megawatt generating unit will be out of service until the insulator can be repaired, he said.

PECO Energy is a private utility that serves the Philadelphia area.

Related Information From Hoover's Inc. PECO Energy

Sources: http://nucnews.net/nucnews/1999nn/9912nn/991231nn.htm
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The moral of this story is, never trust what others say, research things yourself, not only do you gain more knowledge by doing the research yourself but you won't be parroting disinformation that so many others take joy in spreading.
 
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I would hang with Donnay IRL, always right on point and on the same page.

^5
 
donnay said:
You know I constantly hear how much Alex is a bullshit artist because someone else said he was and, they are just parroting that someone else. I must say, I wouldn't know Bill Cooper if I kicked him. Nevertheless, I heard Bill Cooper's show where he called Alex Jones a liar, a fearmonger, etc...with regards to Alex's broadcast on December 31, 1999. So, I took notes and researched because my inquisitive mind wanted to know who the liar really was.

It appears Alex wasn't lying at all. Is it considered fearmongering when you read the headline news from MSM out loud?

Those of you out there who parrot what other people tell you should be ashamed of yourselves if, you call yourselves independent critical thinkers. It took me about 30 minutes to research the information below to find what Alex Jones was reporting, was indeed some of the things he discussed on his broadcast, December 31, 1999. Which Bill Cooper said: (paraphasing) "Are there really hundreds of thousands of people dying in Chechnya?" Well Bill, if you took the time to research that information you might have realized that it was true that those poor Chechens were dying by the hundreds of thousands.
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Point of order in the interest of critical thinking- Alex said, "hundreds to thousands of people dying". Not hundreds of thousands. Listen to the broadcast.

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Three U.S. Nuclear Plants Go Down

Yahoo News
07:21 PM ET 12/31/99

WASHINGTON (AP) _ Three nuclear power plants unexpectedly shut down in South Carolina, Georgia and Pennsylvania as the new year approached, but federal officials said Friday the problems were not Y2K-related and the shutdowns were conducted safely.

``All safety systems at all three reactors are fully operative,'' Energy Secretary Bill Richardson said.

Two of the reactors were shut down Thursday evening _ one in Georgia and another in Pennsylvania _ and the third in South Carolina was reduced to 40 percent power at 1:11 a.m. EST Friday, officials said.

Meanwhile, Richardson said he was ``reasonably confident'' that America's electricity grids will roll into the new year without any major Y2K glitches. The first indicator was expected to come hours before midnight when interconnecting grids that are pegged to Greenwich Mean Time _ five hours ahead of U.S. time zones _ are tested.

Power plant computers are linked to local time, but about a third of the electricity equipment involves the interconnecting grids.

``While we're not ready to declare victory, we are reasonably confident,'' said Richardson, whose department was closely monitoring the electric grids, nuclear power plants and otherenergy sectors.

The three commercial nuclear power plants that shut down were:

_The Catawba reactor, operated by Duke Power Co., in South Carolina. The reason could not immediately been learned, but it was not Y2K-related, officials said.

_The Vogtle reactor, operated by Southern Co., in Georgia. The reason given was an unspecified distribution problem.

_The Limerick reactor, operated by Philadelphia Electric Co., in Pennsylvania, after a transformer problem.

Each of the shutdowns were normal and the plants remained stable, officials said. The utilities switched to other sources of power and there was no interruption of electricity, officials said.

Electric utility executives have expressed optimism that their preparation will lead to smooth transition with no power disruptions.

Richardson, speaking to reporters during a live video linkup with Russia's nuclear minister in Moscow, said he was gratified to hear that Russia's nuclear reactors as well as those in Ukraine handled the Y2K transition smoothly over their 11 time zones.

``This is great news. ... We had some concern about Ukraine,'' said Richardson.

Richardson also reported no indication of any international disruption in oil supplies as the oil-rich Middle East rolled through the transition. If there were any such disruptions, he said was prepared to release oil from the U.S. strategic reserve, and three oil producers _ Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Venezuela _ were committed to increase production.

``So far, we are confident that there will be no interruptions affecting the United States,'' said Richardson. ``We are confident there will be a successful Y2K rollover on electricity, natural gas. There will be enough fuel at all gas stations.''

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Penn. Nuclear Plant Shut Down

December 31, 1999
By The Associated Press
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-BRF-Reactor-Shutdown.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991231/aponline072243_000.htm

LIMERICK, Pa. (AP) -- One of two nuclear reactors at a power plant outside Philadelphia was closed Friday after a piece of equipment failed.

PECO Energy Co. declared an ``unusual event'' at the Limerick Generating Station, but company spokesman Neil McDermott insisted that the problem was not Y2K-related.

An unusual event is the least serious emergency classification for a nuclear power plant.

The 2:55 a.m. shutdown occurred when an insulator on the main generator transformer for Limerick Unit 2 failed, McDermott said. The transformer is non-nuclear equipment used to increase the voltage of the unit's output before sending electricity out to the power distribution system.

``It was all in the conventional part of the power plant. This could happen at a coal plant or hydro plant,'' McDermott said.

The 1,100-megawatt generating unit will be out of service until the insulator can be repaired, he said.

PECO Energy is a private utility that serves the Philadelphia area.

Related Information From Hoover's Inc. PECO Energy

Sources: http://nucnews.net/nucnews/1999nn/9912nn/991231nn.htm
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Alex said the Limerick plant was shut down as well as "four other plants". That's five total according to Alex. In response to a caller, Alex then said, "6-7 reactors across the country". Your own research and critical thinking has proved that there were a total of 3 plants shut down. Is your research inadequate or was Alex wrong?


The moral of this story is, never trust what others say, research things yourself, not only do you gain more knowledge by doing the research yourself but you won't be parroting disinformation that so many others take joy in spreading.
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Is it possible to leave a message on the White House comment line, or did Alex fake that? I've called the number he used myself, and I was unable to leave a message. Have you researched that yourself?
 
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pacelli said:
Point of order in the interest of critical thinking- Alex said, "hundreds to thousands of people dying". Not hundreds of thousands. Listen to the broadcast.

Jones says: "Hundreds to thousands."

Cooper says: "Hundreds of thousands."

Again, yes Mr. Cooper there were hundreds to thousands dying. Your followers seem to like the semantics games like you do.



Alex said the Limerick plant was shut down as well as "four other plants". That's five total according to Alex. In response to a caller, Alex then said, "6-7 reactors across the country". Your own research and critical thinking has proved that there were a total of 3 plants shut down. Is your research inadequate or was Alex wrong?

Again, go back and listen (carefully) to the context of what he says to the female caller from PA. "At least one Nuclear Power Plant has been shut down."




Is it possible to leave a message on the White House comment line, or did Alex fake that? I've called the number he used myself, and I was unable to leave a message. Have you researched that yourself?

As I stated in an earlier post the least the White House could do is put in a toll free number but I digress. When I watched the "live" broadcast, I too, thought you could leave a message since there were two beeps at the end of the automated message. As I said in another posts; I can assure you that they (Feds) heard the message. After all we know government listens in to all wired communications--that's not paranoia, that is a stated fact-- here, here, here. I am sure if you can get beyond your hatred of the messenger, you will realize that Alex Jones is an Enemy of The State and is monitored. However, if you cannot get beyond your hatred of Alex Jones you know you can always find employment with the federal government.

Happy Mother's Day! :)
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I practice increase, not income, so I am not eligible to work for a foreign and alien god that you call the federal government.

If Alex were truly an "Enemy of the State", he would be off the air or in prison on a trumped up charge. Irwin Schiff, Ed & Elaine Brown, those people are enemies of the state. Why doesn't Alex talk about the Browns anymore?

Have you ever wondered how Alex managed to "dodge secret service patrols" in the Bohemian Grove & then distribute a video without any prosecution or consequences?

Is it wrong to ask these questions to encourage critical thinking?

Is a belief in the new world order predicated upon a blind faith in the behaviors and expressions of Alex Jones? How is it that Alex can criticize the mainstream media for lying about the new world order, and then turn around and use their propaganda as "documented and admitted evidence" of the current police state of affairs? Alex's response would probably be something along the lines of 'because these people are sick arrogant psychopaths'. Then how does Alex know what is true and what is false? Are Alex and other patriot broadcasters unknowingly spreading disinformation?

I've supported Alex, I contributed to his first moneybomb, I enjoy his videos, and I enjoy his radio show. My conclusion is that Alex is not a means to an end.
 
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