Alex Jones Crashes an Austin Libertarian Rally? What the Heck?

[AGRP]

What it's worth is simply that there are people out there farther down the rabbit hole than Alex Jones. In the same way Glenn Beck is the intersection of melodrama and politics, Alex Jones is the intersection of conspiracy theories and politics. So it's understandable that he's not going to be into the less obviously political paranoid fantasies out there, like UFOs and astral projection.

Well, he did omit several facts such as his refusal to talk about his Jesuit connections. Not to say it's bad, but it's odd when he refuses to analyze certain subjects as much as others (there are several videos on this).

I'm 100% impartial. I still enjoy AJ, but it does seem like he spins people's wheels at times. Instead of educating people about direct action that will lead to liberty, such as the 10th amendment, he spends more time talking about things like fluoride in the water. Yes it is bad, but it gets to the point when certain subjects are over-killed and productive actions/education are highly ignored.

 

[Batman]

LOL popular mechanics.

That's like linking to media matters to prove republicans/libertarians are evil. No agendas there

So if you don't agree with it, it can't be true?

 

[ericsnow]

So if you don't agree with it, it can't be true?

Debunking Popular Mechanics' 9/11 Lies
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/debunking_popular_mechanics_myths.htm

 

[Batman]

Debunking Popular Mechanics' 9/11 Lies
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/debunking_popular_mechanics_myths.htm

So you're going to take the word of Alex Jones over engineers with a PhD in structural analysis. You couldn't link me to an article written directly by Steven Jones at least? The document claims traces of thermite was found in the wreckage - what I have read of Steven Jones in the past is that traces of sulfur were found. Sulfur is a fairly common element found in - among other things - jet fuel.

 

[ericsnow]

So you're going to take the word of Alex Jones over engineers with a PhD in structural analysis. You couldn't link me to an article written directly by Steven Jones at least? The document claims traces of thermite was found in the wreckage - what I have read of Steven Jones in the past is that traces of sulfur were found. Sulfur is a fairly common element found in - among other things - jet fuel.

Sulfur doesn't cause pools of molten lava which last for weeks. Thermite does.

I never claimed I have all the answers to 9/11. No one does. But millions of people have questions.

Check this website out.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

So you're going to take the word of Alex Jones over engineers with a PhD in structural analysis. You couldn't link me to an article written directly by Steven Jones at least? The document claims traces of thermite was found in the wreckage - what I have read of Steven Jones in the past is that traces of sulfur were found. Sulfur is a fairly common element found in - among other things - jet fuel.

Actually, "active thermitic material" has been found at the WTC site.

http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf

 

[Pericles]

Maybe some of you should actually see thermite in action before making a conclusion.

Some fun loving Marines demonstrating the properties of a thermite grenade:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2289367460324643450#

 

[jmdrake]

So you're going to take the word of Alex Jones over engineers with a PhD in structural analysis. You couldn't link me to an article written directly by Steven Jones at least? The document claims traces of thermite was found in the wreckage - what I have read of Steven Jones in the past is that traces of sulfur were found. Sulfur is a fairly common element found in - among other things - jet fuel.

Stephen Jones is a physics PhD. And there are thousands of other masters and PhD level architects, engineers and physicists who question 9/11. So it's "taking Alex Jones word" has nothing to do with it.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Besides, Popular Mechanics "debunking" has now been "debunked" by the final official government report from NIST which rejected the "pancake theory" PM spent so much time defending.

Anyway, check out this thread.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?272532-9-11-Experiments-The-Great-Thermate-Debate

The experimental data is in now. Testing the official story does not lead to measurable amounts of sulfur. And thermate can cut through vertical and horizontal steel beams.

 

[Pericles]

The thermite point is that it is not a clean cut - it melts steel - look at the safe that got "thermited" in the video. That is what thermite does to steel and not the clean cuts shown as WTC "evidence".

 

[Romulus]

Nanotechnology is an amazing thing. It's unbelievable what has been done with it, and its been in use for a good long time before 2001.

 

[dannno]

The thermite point is that it is not a clean cut - it melts steel - look at the safe that got "thermited" in the video. That is what thermite does to steel and not the clean cuts shown as WTC "evidence".

Be sure to checkout this thread that jmdrake linked to above:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?272532-9-11-Experiments-The-Great-Thermate-Debate


Dude builds devices that cut steel beams, clean cuts, using small amounts of home made thermite...

 

[libertarian4321]

Is Alex Jones abrasive? Yes.
Is Alex Jones insane. No.

Alex Jones is a demagogue and an opportunist doing what he can to enrich himself. In the process, he will bring in some new people to the small government/libertarian movement (and the CT movement, which I can do without).

He's no different than Ann Coulter or Al Sharpton or dozens of others. He's less less successful than Coulter or Sharpton, but his game is the same.

The field for "left" and "right" wing demagogues is crowded and hard to crack. It ain't easy to climb over all the right wing bomb throwers. So Alex chose a couple of niche markets and became the most famous conspiracy theorist demagogue and the most successful libertarian demagogue.

Does Alex Jones believe what he says? I don't know. I imagine he believes some of it.

Then again, I'm sure Coulter and Sharpton believe at least some of what they say, too.

I prefer rational leaders like Ron Paul to bomb-throwing self-aggrandizing blow hards like Alex Jones.

The AJ's of the world can be useful from time to time, but they remain distasteful.

 

[libertarian4321]

Stephen Jones is a physics PhD. And there are thousands of other masters and PhD level architects, engineers and physicists who question 9/11. So it's "taking Alex Jones word" has nothing to do with it.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Yup, in 9+ years, AE "truth" has managed to find a bit less than 1,400 people with engineering/science/architecture related degrees or professions from around the world to endorse the "truther" version of events.

I should note, however, that MILLIONS of engineers/scientists/architects in the USA alone have NOT seen fit to endorse the "truther" version of events.

I'm one of those engineers who has NOT endorsed the "truth" (as the truthers see it).

I present this only for informational purposes, though I suspect the truthers are grabbing their torches and pitch forks and getting ready to flame away...

You know how you can tell that 9-11 wasn't a government orchestrated operation? Because it WORKED...

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

 

[ericsnow]

out of context video

Cool video brah. Every time you post those out of context clips all you're doing is giving AJ more credibility. You're afraid to debate his integrity like an intellectual.

 

[ericsnow]

Yup, in 9+ years, AE "truth" has managed to find a bit less than 1,400 people with engineering/science/architecture related degrees or professions from around the world to endorse the "truther" version of events.

I should note, however, that MILLIONS of engineers/scientists/architects in the USA alone have NOT seen fit to endorse the "truther" version of events.

I'm one of those engineers who has NOT endorsed the "truth" (as the truthers see it).

I present this only for informational purposes, though I suspect the truthers are grabbing their torches and pitch forks and getting ready to flame away...

You know how you can tell that 9-11 wasn't a government orchestrated operation? Because it WORKED...

1400 is a crap load considering they have nothing to gain by coming out for 9/11 truth and a whole lot to lose, including their lives.

 

[hazek]

I didn't really read the whole thread but let me just say:

Don't let them win and let them divide and conquer us.

 

[ericsnow]

Alex Jones is a demagogue and an opportunist doing what he can to enrich himself. In the process, he will bring in some new people to the small government/libertarian movement (and the CT movement, which I can do without).

Man look at this opportunist pushing his same anti globalist BS back in the 90s! What a money hungry opportunist! Oh wait!!! That's right, there was next to no money to be made off of Alex Jones' conspiratorial views back in the 90s. But hey maybe he used Doc Brown's Delorean and traveled to 2010 and saw how much money was being made off of conspiracies. He then went back to the mid 90s and started his cable access television show knowing that one day he would have a nationally syndicated radio show with millions of listeners

 

[libertarian4321]

1400 is a crap load considering they have nothing to gain by coming out for 9/11 truth and a whole lot to lose, including their lives.

Yeah, the truthers are just dropping like flies as the new world order CFR Bilderberger illuminati black helicopter assassins pick them off, lol.

About the only thing an engineer has to lose by signing on as a "truther" is the professional respect of his colleagues.