Alex Jones Crashes an Austin Libertarian Rally? What the Heck?

[libertarian4321]

Man look at this opportunist pushing his same anti globalist BS back in the 90s! What a money hungry opportunist! Oh wait!!! That's right, there was next to no money to be made off of Alex Jones' conspiratorial views back in the 90s. But hey maybe he used Doc Brown's Delorean and traveled to 2010 and saw how much money was being made off of conspiracies. He then went back to the mid 90s and started his cable access television show knowing that one day he would have a nationally syndicated radio show with millions of listeners

All demagogues start off small. Do you think Al Sharpton started off with hordes of followers?

 

[Travlyr]

Yeah, the truthers are just dropping like flies as the new world order CFR Bilderberger illuminati black helicopter assassins pick them off, lol.

About the only thing an engineer has to lose by signing on as a "truther" is the professional respect of his colleagues.

Or, you could be the first among your peers to say, "It was controlled demolition."

I was embarrassed when I finally realized that I had been taken for a ride. When I realized that building 7 was not fully engulfed in flames, then the only conclusion that I can come to is controlled demolition. It was either the fire or it wasn't. Since only one side of the building was on fire, then it couldn't have been the fire. Do you have a better explanation? Buildings just do not fall down at the speed of gravity free fall by themselves.

 

[specsaregood]

Buildings just do not fall down at the speed of gravity by themselves.

Exactly how fast is the "speed of gravity"?

 

[Travlyr]

~ 9.8 meters per second squared.

 

[specsaregood]

~ 9.8 meters per second squared.

Hrm, I coulda sworn that was the rate of acceleration, not speed. You sure about that?

 

[libertarian4321]

Or, you could be the first among your peers to say, "It was controlled demolition."

That isn't going to happen, I assure you.

Here's how you can be sure 9-11 was NOT an "inside job"- it WORKED.

In order to believe any of the many 9-11 conspiracy theories, you have to believe that the US Government, which has shown itself to be utterly inept in everything it does, was able to pull off an extremely complicated plot involving thousands of people, with complete precision and in utter secrecy, then was able to prevent all leaks for 9+ years.

The same fuck wits that print a BILLION bills (currency) before looking at the output and realizing there is a printing error and the entire batch will have to be trashed (at a cost of $100,000,000 to the taxpayer) are somehow competent enough to pull off 9-11 flawlessly?

Yeah, right.

I work with the government every day. They can't execute a contract to conduct a rather simple environmental cleanup without holding dozens of meetings over many months (or years), and involving hundreds of people. When the contract is executed, it is almost a 100% surety that the project will be fouled up one way or another- it will be over budget, will fail to meet it's goals, and will take far longer than planned.

You expect me to believe these same clowns executed the 9-11 conspiracy flawlessly?

Give me a break...

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Cool video brah. Every time you post those out of context clips all you're doing is giving AJ more credibility. You're afraid to debate his integrity like an intellectual.

Did I ever say I didn't believe Alex Jones' theory that "black people, Jews, Easter bunnies, and chupacabras run the new world order"????

 

[Natalie]

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[Nate-ForLiberty]

Did I ever say I didn't believe Alex Jones' theory that "black people, Jews, Easter bunnies, and chupacabras run the new world order"????

oh come on, i don't know where the uncut/unedited version of that clip is, but i've seen it and he was talking about how his views are based on facts he can back up, not stupid myths, wise tales or whatever. He was being sarcastic. Yet you post it here as if that's that he actually believes. I'm not a rabid AJ fan, . . .

but fuck off.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

oh come on, i don't know where the uncut/unedited version of that clip is, but i've seen it and he was talking about how his views are based on facts he can back up, not stupid myths, wise tales or whatever. He was being sarcastic. Yet you post it here as if that's that he actually believes. I'm not a rabid AJ fan, . . .

but fuck off.

 

[dannno]

Hrm, I coulda sworn that was the rate of acceleration, not speed. You sure about that?

The speed of gravity is dependent on time.

 

[dannno]

That isn't going to happen, I assure you.

Here's how you can be sure 9-11 was NOT an "inside job"- it WORKED.

In order to believe any of the many 9-11 conspiracy theories, you have to believe that the US Government, which has shown itself to be utterly inept in everything it does, was able to pull off an extremely complicated plot involving thousands of people, with complete precision and in utter secrecy, then was able to prevent all leaks for 9+ years.

The same fuck wits that print a BILLION bills (currency) before looking at the output and realizing there is a printing error and the entire batch will have to be trashed (at a cost of $100,000,000 to the taxpayer) are somehow competent enough to pull off 9-11 flawlessly?

Yeah, right.

I work with the government every day. They can't execute a contract to conduct a rather simple environmental cleanup without holding dozens of meetings over many months (or years), and involving hundreds of people. When the contract is executed, it is almost a 100% surety that the project will be fouled up one way or another- it will be over budget, will fail to meet it's goals, and will take far longer than planned.

You expect me to believe these same clowns executed the 9-11 conspiracy flawlessly?

Give me a break...

That's a horrible argument, because for one thing it was international intelligence that pulled it off through massive compartmentalization, the planning had nothing to do with "the government", they were just some of the compartments that were utilized.

Secondly, you are trying to say that 19 guys who could barely fly small planes and liked to do drugs, party and go to strip clubs did this because of their religion, directed by a cartoon character from a cave in Afghanistan.. How on earth can you believe that this pathetic group who brought all the evidence of what they were going to do with them in their luggage that coincidentally got 'lost' could pull all of this off, but not the elite through their international intelligence wing.. that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[Travlyr]

Hrm, I coulda sworn that was the rate of acceleration, not speed. You sure about that?

You're right. 9.8 meters per second squared is the rate of acceleration, not speed. Good catch.

 

[Travlyr]

That isn't going to happen, I assure you.

Here's how you can be sure 9-11 was NOT an "inside job"- it WORKED.

In order to believe any of the many 9-11 conspiracy theories, you have to believe that the US Government, which has shown itself to be utterly inept in everything it does, was able to pull off an extremely complicated plot involving thousands of people, with complete precision and in utter secrecy, then was able to prevent all leaks for 9+ years.

The same fuck wits that print a BILLION bills (currency) before looking at the output and realizing there is a printing error and the entire batch will have to be trashed (at a cost of $100,000,000 to the taxpayer) are somehow competent enough to pull off 9-11 flawlessly?

Yeah, right.

I work with the government every day. They can't execute a contract to conduct a rather simple environmental cleanup without holding dozens of meetings over many months (or years), and involving hundreds of people. When the contract is executed, it is almost a 100% surety that the project will be fouled up one way or another- it will be over budget, will fail to meet it's goals, and will take far longer than planned.

You expect me to believe these same clowns executed the 9-11 conspiracy flawlessly?

Give me a break...

That's fine with me. It is not my intention to convince you of anything. This is just my way of letting the world know ... that I know ... buildings don't fall down by themselves very fast. I've seen barns take years to fall down. Buildings that fall down in a matter of seconds are brought down intentionally.

 

[specsaregood]

You're right. 9.8 meters per second squared is the rate of acceleration, not speed. Good catch.

So how fast did the building fall down? Also, how fast would you expect a building that fell NOT due to demolition to fall?

 

[Travlyr]

So how fast did the building fall down?

It came down in about 6 seconds.

Also, how fast would you expect a building that fell NOT due to demolition to fall?

If it stands for 15 years without falling down, then I would guess that it would take at least 15 more years to fall... maybe 100 or longer... I don't really understand your question.

There is more information here: http://buildingwhat.org/free-fall-collapse/

 

[specsaregood]

It came down in about 6 seconds.

You said it came down at the "speed of gravity". Was that statement incorrect? Because you haven't told me how fast that speed was yet.

If it stands for 15 years without falling down, then I would guess that it would take at least 15 more years to fall... maybe 100 or longer... I don't really understand your question.

Yes, let's ignore ALL external stimuli. lol

 

[wsc321]

Guys, it's entirely possible that Alex Jones is both a sincere, committed anti-authoritarian who wants to educate people and a raging asshole...

I appreciate the attempt at objectivity, Churchill. I think a lot of folks nowadays want to oversimplify things and pass judgment on the intent of another person's heart. I haven't listened to Alex much in a while, but I know I've been provoked to look at a number of issues I hadn't previously through his show. I think Alex was the first to get me interested in Ron Paul. I take his warnings on Fluoride seriously. His general warnings about an over-reaching government would probably do the average American some good, if only to provoke questions. OTOH, one of the reasons I don't listen more is because it is almost constant fear, doom and gloom. Mega doom and gloom.

My current opinion, however, is that Alex is sincere and a net plus. If he goes overboard sometimes... that's easy to criticize, right? I haven't seen the vids posted above yet, though - just reading through this thread.

 

[Travlyr]

You said it came down at the "speed of gravity". Was that statement incorrect? Because you haven't told me how fast that speed was yet.


Yes, let's ignore ALL external stimuli. lol

Yes specs. I fucked up and said it wrong. The speed of gravity is not constant.

 

[specsaregood]

Yes specs. I fucked up and said it wrong. The speed of gravity is not constant.

It's all good, in reality I'm just busting balls; but the thing is....you aren't the first. That is a talking point/statement I've read dozens/hundreds of times from people promoting the demolition POV. And everytime I read it I cringe; because it discredits the person's entire argument.