No. I'm not the one being obtuse. You brought up communism in a thread about immigration which was only at that point and I asked you an OBVIOUS question that was connected to it. I didn't put in words in your mouth. There is no HONEST way you can claim I did.
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@Brian4Liberty specifically came back with his "people from India are more likely to be communist" retort which 100% undermines your argument, then he tries to cover with a "Readers Digest condensed summary: sophistry." comment. Here's another saying. "Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining." Or another cliche'. "If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it." You could have brought up the fact that the American Revolution was fought by a minority of people as well. You chose to go with a negative example. And the comparison doesn't hold when it comes to immigration anyway because there are different immigrant groups coming to America that don't all share the same agenda. Indian Hindus have a completely different perspective than Pakistani Muslims and are unlikely to have common cause on anything except conservative family values and supporting H1B visas.
And even if YOU aren't looking at this from a racial angle, other's are. (Again, Brian's unsubstantiated comment about Indians and communism). Anyhow, I've made my point. The obsession of race when it comes to immigration is toxic to this movement even if you don't have that position yourself. In a movement that pushes "individualism" on the surface there is an undercurrent of collectivism right beneath it.
At the beginning of this movement people worried about the 9/11 truthers driving folks away. I personally never ran into that. I remember at one meetup, our meetup leader Cheryl worrying about that and I privately told her I was a truther. (That must be how a gay person feels coming out of the closet). She was taken about, then just said "Well I just have a heard time believing our government would do that." That's fine.
I do know the race issue has driven people away. Around he same time there was a very enthusiastic mixed race couple (white man, black woman) that were initially at all the meetups. I remember them because the husband was a Ruby On Rails developer and we had talked about putting our head together to build a social media about to reward people for activism. Well one day a discussion came up about what to do regarding the racist newsletters. They hadn't even HEARD about that. That was the last time I saw them. I know some here reject the idea that "diversity is strength" and
@CaptUSA bought into the BS from Thomas Sowell that somehow Japan is better by being a homogeneous society. (Japan is dying on the vine with young men not even wanting to get married). I think Capt means well. I think YOU and Brian mean well. I think Thomas Sowell is "so smart he's stupid." A black man in a majority white country asking for homogeneity? Why hasn't he moved to Ghana then? This forum is much less diverse than it used to be. I remember when there were a few feminists who openly posted and at least one transgender. At times I wasn't the only black person posting. It could be the homogeneity has simply come from attrition but I don't think it's made this movement stronger by any stretch of the imagination.
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I'm not sure what goalpost has moved on my part but okay. Here is "the irony." Everybody is all into statistics until they don't fit. Even though the Springfield Haitians come from a country will a helluva a crime problem they themselves have not been a cause of crime as shown by the statistics. Yet, nobody on the "anti-diversify is our strength" crowd seems even willing to admit that. I find all of these xenophobic arguments disingenuous at this point. Have a good day as well.
