Alaska Dispatch: How did Ron Paul lose Alaska?

[Mani]

Even if u had that......was it really him?

What is concrete evidence?

Multiple video tapes of the Alaskan GOP chairman showing 3 forms of ID clearly to the camera while shredding and burning Ron Paul votes and leaving behind DNA in the form of bodily fluids that was verified by multiple, independent labs? ;P

 

[kill the banks]

sometimes I think we should have paid private eyes right from start

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

But for Ron to do that he would obviously need concrete evidence. I have no doubt if this was presented to him or Doug Wead then it would be all guns blazing. But for Ron to simply come out and say this without any evidence would be ludicrous.

Wish more people would try to understand this.

 

[Plague-of-Locutus]

But for Ron to do that he would obviously need concrete evidence. I have no doubt if this was presented to him or Doug Wead then it would be all guns blazing. But for Ron to simply come out and say this without any evidence would be ludicrous.

I've been thinking that the campaign might actually be collecting as much factual evidence as able on these suspected frauds for an eventual showdown in Tampa if it comes down to it. Totally hypothetical, but if we do end up pulling off the delegate upset we will need something huge to put the establishment in its place to prevent them from stealing the nomination away from us. What better to counter with than the threat of a massive voter fraud lawsuit?

 

[Guzabuza]

A question, when the electronic voting machines were introduced into voting system how did initially people react to the idea to vote on a computer? Was there any public outcry or did the officials just plow through with it ?

 

[eleganz]

Our entire LA office was calling into Idaho and Alaska all day to get out the vote.

One fella told me his entire oil rig/platform crew was going to vote Ron Paul together in their RP shirts.

Ron has a lot of support out there in Alaska...I was strongly anticipating a win, 3rd place blew my mind...I don't doubt election fraud took place.



We got a good delegate game though...

 

[Jingles]

My view on most primaries and such anymore is that people are freaking dumb. I don't know how sugarcoat it and I'm not trying to be a negative nancy or whatever. People are dumb as hell from what I have seen and my experience campaigning.

 

[Suzu]

What better to counter with than the threat of a massive voter fraud lawsuit?

I wish people would stop using the term "voter fraud" when they ought to be saying "election fraud". If you don't know the difference, please look it up online.

 

[Xenophage]

40% of Alaska's delegates to state have been decided. Our current count of Paul supporters stands at slightly over 50% of the delegates.

However, the remaining conventions will be stacked against us. The GOP establishment is running scared in Alaska and scrambling to get THEIR voters out to outflank our guys. We need massive call-ins to get Ron Paul voters out to their district conventions ASAP. As in, yesterday!

 

[PolicyReader]

40% of Alaska's delegates to state have been decided. Our current count of Paul supporters stands at slightly over 50% of the delegates.

However, the remaining conventions will be stacked against us. The GOP establishment is running scared in Alaska and scrambling to get THEIR voters out to outflank our guys. We need massive call-ins to get Ron Paul voters out to their district conventions ASAP. As in, yesterday!

Quoted for importance and increased visibility.

 

[LibertyEagle]

A question, when the electronic voting machines were introduced into voting system how did initially people react to the idea to vote on a computer? Was there any public outcry or did the officials just plow through with it ?

Some states have thrown them out. You can do it in your own state. It just takes you finding out who is the decision-maker, regarding these machines, in your state government and presenting them the evidence about voting machines. There is plenty of it. There have been testimonies before Congress, etc.

 

[Plague-of-Locutus]

I wish people would stop using the term "voter fraud" when they ought to be saying "election fraud". If you don't know the difference, please look it up online.

Oh I know the difference. If you think I made a mistake I'm sorry you got confused. I just believe the voter fraud would be the easier to prove than election fraud. Voter fraud = actions done. Election fraud = planned actions. One is a bit harder to prove.

 

[Teemu]

I think considering the percentage of Mormon's of the population the Alaska results weren't that surprising, Alaska has higher LDS % than Washington, and significantly higher percentage than Colorado.

Mormon population percentage from wikipedia comparison to Romney's performance

States where Romney won the primary or the caucus straw poll
Idaho - 26.2%
Wyoming - 11.1%
Nevada - 6.47%
Arizona - 5.96%
Alaska - 4.53%
Washington - 3.91%

Caucuses where Romney lost the caucus straw poll

Colorado - 2.78% - Romney lost to Santorum by 5 points

North Dakota 0.95% - Romney 3rd
Minnesota 0.57% - Romney 3rd

 

[marcirvine]

On page 2 of the article it says,

"Ruedrich says that he and another party worker left his district's polling place "to process state data from the preference poll. When we issued an all-data-in report, we returned to the convention because it was still in process. We participated in the vote in person."

There is your proof right there. How can they turn the data in before the vote??!!

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Wish more people would try to understand this.

Wish others would understand that the establishment is prepared to discount complaints about vote or election rigging no matter how much evidence was emassed. But we have to raise the issue hard and large anyway, otherwise it will keep happening, which is what has been the case. Most people will grasp the big picture---Paul was the ONLY candidate to even go to Alaska to significantly campaign, saw thousands come out for him there, leads in the exit polling, yet fails to win? Same for Idaho, Washington, ND, etc to a lesser extent.

Every time CNN actually observes caucus voting in person, with the cameras running, Paul wins the hand count, but can't ever get a victory statewide? Paul's numbers, and only his, go down each election night from the higher percentage of the vote he started with? And so on. This is enough for reasonable people to accept a claim that rigging is going on. In fact, it's enough for Paul to announce that, although he had no plans or intentions of running third party, the circumstances of widespread fraud have caused him to reconsider.

 

[V3n]

On page 2 of the article it says,

"Ruedrich says that he and another party worker left his district's polling place "to process state data from the preference poll. When we issued an all-data-in report, we returned to the convention because it was still in process. We participated in the vote in person."

There is your proof right there. How can they turn the data in before the vote??!!

It's my understanding the preference poll and the caucus are two different things. This is the beauty pageant.

 

[Bossobass]

Time for a $$ bomb to offer $50,000.00 for concrete testimony and/or evidence and start building a case, criminal and civil.

Money talks and causes all rats to jump ship.

Bosso

 

[tremendoustie]

The article says the campaign did and that the results did not match the GOP's numbers:



FRAUD.

Yes, again.

I believe fraud exists. Strong differences between properly done exit polls and results would be a legimate indication.

The "vote flipping" nonsense, however, in that other thread, is just that. It's so illogical, it's embarrassing.

 

[sailingaway]

I think considering the percentage of Mormon's of the population the Alaska results weren't that surprising, Alaska has higher LDS % than Washington, and significantly higher percentage than Colorado.

Mormon population percentage from wikipedia comparison to Romney's performance

States where Romney won the primary or the caucus straw poll
Idaho - 26.2%
Wyoming - 11.1%
Nevada - 6.47%
Arizona - 5.96%
Alaska - 4.53%
Washington - 3.91%

Caucuses where Romney lost the caucus straw poll

Colorado - 2.78% - Romney lost to Santorum by 5 points

North Dakota 0.95% - Romney 3rd
Minnesota 0.57% - Romney 3rd

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