Ahmed Mohamed’s Clock Was “Half a Bomb,” Says Anti-Muslim Group With Ties to Trump, Cruz - Lee

[moostraks]

It can't be a bomb hoax if nobody claimed it was a bomb.


You're really twisting this situation into knots in a strange attempt to make this fucked up situation the kid's fault somehow.

I am perplexed by the one side which seems to be doubling down on this story making it continually news and using it to attack anyone who disagrees with the horror (/sarc) of the situation and necessity for the type of over reaction of the school in arresting the boy. Triple the eye roll is the portrayal of said pencil box as a suitcase and hence the rationalization they seem to make in perpetuating the hysterics associated with this hoax bomb argument. Wth?

Funny thing was Palin's little diatribe on the issue of how it was no pencil box with its picture of Target pencils in it. When I showed the picture of supposed hoax suitcase bomb to dh, his comment was on how it was the same sort of pencil boxes they carry at Target (and no, he did not see Palin's picture) and he almost never does any shopping with or without me.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

The progressive view is to trust that the government is always correct and they are here to protect us which is what you are doing but too stupid to realize. Since when did the Constitution allow for the cops to arrest and hold a kid without their parents OR a lawyer? You ever heard of due process? Probably don't care about due process because progressives like you like to bow down to authority.

Progressive narratives do not always trust the government, not at all. A prog will consistently criticize the state when they believe it's a case of "white privilege" or "male privilege" or anything that justifies the so-called "progressive stack".

 

[brushfire]

Ahmed will be sure to bring his creation along with him to the whitehouse, right?

 

[kahless]

Stories Are Blowing Up About Ahmed’s Alarm Clock. Here’s What a Former FBI Agent Told Us
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/425...s-alarm-clock-heres-former-fbi-agent-told-us/

On whether or not the clock resembled a bomb:

I have made numerous explosive devices in my career. While I was not an Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) operator, I was a SEAL. We didn’t take bombs apart, we built explosive unconventional devices that could be used in unconventional ways.

That device (clock) resembled something that was unconventional and not understood by the teachers or law enforcement. That is typical of crude explosive devices.”

How he would have approached the situation as an FBI agent:

“My response would have been exactly as the authorities in Irving, Texas responded. I challenge anyone that was not in that circumstance to explain a better, more effective response to an unknown, unconventional device.”

 

[Valli6]

You've been 'nudged'!

How to: Make Ahmed's Clock


Ahmed Mohammed Clock is a FRAUD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY

I've worked with kids in contests who have actually built things. I've seen 12-year-olds and 14-year-olds make amazing things on their own. Unfortunately, whether it fits your narrative or whatever you want to believe or not, this particular child down in Texas did not make anything. He did not make a clock. He simply took something out of the casing.

People should not recognize this as an invention and recognize this child as an inventor for this particular creation when plenty of other kids have invented things.

 

[Ender]

How to: Make Ahmed's Clock


Ahmed Mohammed Clock is a FRAUD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY

I repeat:

So what?

He's 14- he was playing around with stuff- he showed to his teacher. The kid never said" "Look how brilliant I am."

Bet that guy in the vid thinks he's really cool to be smarter than a 14 yr old. Must be related to Palin.

 

[juleswin]

I repeat:

So what?

He's 14- he was playing around with stuff- he showed to his teacher. The kid never said" "Look how brilliant I am."

Bet that guy in the vid thinks he's really cool to be smarter than a 14 yr old. Must be related to Palin.

There is nothing at all impressive about what he did. I grew up with kids younger than him Nigeria who built far more spectacular items without the aid of the internet. Kids who actually manipulate old electronics with transistors, motors, soldering irons etc etc. People that actually create stuff and not just disassemble them.

The only reason why this is news is because reactionary local PD decided to handcuff this boy.

 

[twomp]

Individual liberty does not mean individual ignorance and lack of self preservation. The child was not denied his rights or due process. His parents were contacted and he was picked up once his parents arrived.

If this was a Libertarian society and a private school, the organization would still have private security investigate a possible threat to the school.

Muslim's are currently the highest demographic in world to use children in bomb plots that age. This same year 30 minutes from the school there was a Muslim terrorist attack. It was therefore very much within reason for the school to investigate a Muslim student that shows up at school with a device that looks like a bomb on 9/11, a day of heightened alert.

Nice try at spinning. You progressives always try act like no law was broken. "Well, gee if the cops said so, it must be true." Who cares about facts right?

Police Violated Ahmed Mohamed’s Civil Rights by Keeping Away His Parents

Irving, Texas, police violated Ahmed Mohamed’s civil rights by denying his repeated requests to speak with his parents during his detention for a purported bomb that was in fact a clock.

Mohamed, a freshman at MacArthur High School, insists he repeatedly asked officers to call his parents while being interrogated. Mohamed was questioned at the school, then taken in handcuffs to a juvenile detention center, where he was fingerprinted and interrogated without his parents present, according to police and Mohamed.

Texas Family Code is clear this was not supposed to happen.

“A child may not be left unattended in a juvenile processing office and is entitled to be accompanied by the child’s parent, guardian, or other custodian or by the child’s attorney,” Section 52.025 (PDF) states.

Mohamed did not see his parents until he was released from a juvenile detention center, according to police and his family.

Furthermore, a “person taking a child into custody shall promptly give notice of the person’s action and a statement of the reason for taking the child into custody, to the child’s parent, guardian, or custodian.”

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said he did “not have answers to [that] specific question” when reporters asked him Wednesday why Mohamed was not allowed to speak to his parents.

The executive director of the Texas chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said that answer is not good enough.

“Once they’re being questioned, they have a right to refuse answering,” Terri Burke told The Daily Beast. “And, unless it’s something like a traffic violation, [police] immediately need to release the child to their parents.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...civil-rights-by-keeping-away-his-parents.html

Try again genius.

 

[William R]

Sure doesn't look like any clock I've ever seen. It was meant to be provocative.

 

[juleswin]

Sure doesn't look like any clock I've ever seen. It was meant to be provocative.

Do you not use or have seen a digital alarm clock before?

 

[kahless]

Sure doesn't look like any clock I've ever seen. It was meant to be provocative.

On 9/11, certainly not a coincidence and certainly not a coincidence his father is an anti-Islamaphobia activist.

 

[erowe1]

Let's say this was all a set-up designed by this kid's dad to make the government look stupid.

If that's the case, then the dad is still the good guy here, right?

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

On 9/11, certainly not a coincidence and certainly not a coincidence his father is an anti-Islamaphobia activist.

The idea that this was all a publicity stunt is entirely plausible. It wouldn't be the first time one of these "opressed groups" created a manufactured incident to drum up sympathy.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Let's say this was all a set-up designed by this kid's dad to make the government look stupid.

If that's the case, then the dad is still the good guy here, right?

How does having his son bring a fake bomb to school and the school reacting to that make the government look stupid? Very few parents are going to think it is "stupid" that a school takes bomb threats seriously. Now personally, I object to the cops being called and would have simply expelled the kid and been done with it, but the public isn't going care about the distinction. Cops being called in on kids who pull the fire alarm is something that has been going on since at least the 1970's, so this is nothing new.

 

[staerker]

Let's say this was all a set-up designed by this kid's dad to make the government look stupid.

If that's the case, then the dad is still the good guy here, right?

I'm pretty sure that that is the case:

 

[William R]

Stop letting Muslims into the West. Or keep their numbers small so to be more manageable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...laimed-home-alarm-clock-looked-like-bomb.html

 

[kahless]

How does having his son bring a fake bomb to school and the school reacting to that make the government look stupid? Very few parents are going to think it is "stupid" that a school takes bomb threats seriously. Now personally, I object to the cops being called and would have simply expelled the kid and been done with it, but the public isn't going care about the distinction. Cops being called in on kids who pull the fire alarm is something that has been going on since at least the 1970's, so this is nothing new.

In this litigious society they were probably following policy. If the kid came back and actually did something then school would be liable for not following procedure.

Ahmed’s parents are also exercising their right to refuse officials to share details of what questions were asked of their son and his answers.

Ahmed’s parents should let the full facts come out
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/l...arents-should-let-the-full-facts-come-out.ece

But how did we get from warranted attention to Ahmed Mohamed’s project to the images of him being removed from school property in handcuffs? There are gaping pieces missing from the story of that day, and we should all want them filled in.
...
Mayor Van Duyne told me Monday that the family has been asked “numerous times” to waive their right to constrain officials from sharing details of what was said to, and said by, their minor son. This that creates a broad fact gap that has allowed Irving officials to be portrayed as bigoted monsters, a slander that I do not believe for a minute.

If Ahmed’s family unmuzzles those officials, we can all be free to judge their actions on real events and not agendas.
...

But the posturing and selective revelations of the adults on his side have created an atmosphere of derision toward the adults tasked with keeping the city of Irving and its schools safe. We cannot assess the parties in this unfortunate drama without knowing far more about the events of that day.

All sides should support whatever is necessary for those facts to come out.

 

[dannno]

Like with many issues, both sides are wrong. This is some great material for South Park.

It was 9/12, the day after 9/11.

The kid was obviously race baiting, he had been called a Muslim bomb maker and so he decides to make something that looks like a bomb and bring it to school. It was a "clock", but you couldn't tell the time.. It had an alarm, which was set to go off in class.

Clearly he was looking for some type of attention, and maybe his dad was involved.

On the other hand, you have an over-reacting hyper-sensitive school administration who really should have just treated it for what it was - a kid trying to race bait and get attention. Having him arrested just got him national attention.

Stefan Molyneux:

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Whatever it is, was or isn't, the question is, do you want to live in a society where people are suspicious of damn near everything?

 

[Valli6]

Whatever it is, was or isn't, the question is, do you want to live in a society where people are suspicious of damn near everything?

We already have that. We don't also need an increase in unfounded accusations of racism where none exist, particularly when the alleged "victim" strove to make himself look like he'd done something wrong.