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[FTL_Ian]

Slander is to defame you personally. It's not slander to have the opinion that staying diluted is ineffective. Your activism movement is diluted if you are not in NH.

Concentrating activism is a winning strategy. Do you have an influx of new movers who love liberty coming to your area? Do you have more liberty-oriented people around than you could possibly know?

I'm sorry you can't make it. It sounds like you are suffering from experiencing "sunken costs". Good luck where you are. I'd be upset if I couldn't move to NH too, but I sold my home at a huge loss and moved my business to come to NH. I'm so glad I did.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Ian I heard yesterday's show and you cite this topic while totally misrepresenting what we've said. You claim that we're naive and that we think we're going to save the country but really what some of us have said in this topic is that we aren't willing to abandon our land, family, or businesses. My main criticism is that "after Ron Paul" includes many other options than just moving to NH. Because moving to NH is not an option at all for me.

Maybe it is just a miscommunication. I didn't listen to that episode of FTL but likely both Ian and you mean well.

Why is moving to New Hampshire not even an option? Either way, you can still do a lot of good from TX. You can donate to NH candidates. If you don't have a strong TX accident, you can do phone from phone for NH candidates. You can promote the FSP online. You can attend events in TX and promote the FSP there. For example, folks promoted the FSP at the Students for Liberty Dallas Regional Conference the last 2 years.

 

[fr33]

Why is moving to New Hampshire not even an option? Either way, you can still do a lot of good from TX. You can donate to NH candidates. If you don't have a strong TX accident, you can do phone from phone for NH candidates. You can promote the FSP online. You can attend events in TX and promote the FSP there. For example, folks promoted the FSP at the Students for Liberty Dallas Regional Conference the last 2 years.

It's not an option because I own farmland that can't be replicated in NH. Plus our family members live nearby and are somewhat dependent on us. Nobody can justify my options being limited to abandoning such things that I worked so hard for; 7 days a week. I do promote FSP. I hope to attend PorcFest one of these years during our yearly vacation.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Besides some far off future liberty wonderland like the Honduras "Free city" project and the other speculative venture of seasteading - what is actually happening that you think is actually an option? Is there a persuasive video for it you can point me to that could be added to that site? (It's not my site, by the way.)

The chartered cities in Honduras were declared unconstitutional by the Honduran Supreme Court so that project was pushed back or may not even happen now. Honduras is the most dangerous part of North America anyway, so it isn't like move there is even a remotely smart idea. 1 of the things I like about NH is that it has the lowest crime in the US. VT and ME have similarly low crime. Northern New England, in addition to being the safest part of the US, has the least restrictive self defense laws in the US. Oh, and it is the part of the country Ron Paul did best in. Yeah, I like it here

I hear there is a cool Ron Paul supporter with some land in Texas. Maybe some folks from NH could vacation there sometime in the winter

 

[FTL_Ian]

The Free State Project - More political success in just serveral years than the Libertarian Party can still dream of after 40 years of failure.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

The Free State Project - More political success in just serveral years than the Libertarian Party can still dream of after 40 years of failure.

Congrats on getting ~10% if I am not mistaken.

 

[FTL_Ian]

Thanks! Actually it's 10% of votes cast in the race, but just over 20% of voters in that race chose me.

Here are the wins: http://freekeene.com/2012/11/06/live-nh-election-results-blogging/

 

[Keith and stuff]

Thanks! Actually it's 10% of votes cast in the race, but just over 20% of voters in that race chose me.

Here are the wins: http://freekeene.com/2012/11/06/live-nh-election-results-blogging/

That is a tiny amount of the wins. The wins will be report on the List within the next 36 hours. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...12-pro-liberty-candidates-and-recommendations

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Am I the only one who things putting all the liberty people in one place in NH is not the smartest plan?
Something about not having all your eggs in the same basket in case a drone accidentally levels Manchester..

My other issue with NH is the cost of living..
Property taxes in NH are WAY TO HIGH. $5,000+ a year on a 200K house in the Manchester area, I looked into moving there..
That is $420+ a month in taxes.. That is more than my car payment, it is more than half my mortgage payment..

 

[Keith and stuff]

Am I the only one who things putting all the liberty people in one place in NH is not the smartest plan?
Something about not having all your eggs in the same basket in case a drone accidentally levels Manchester..

I don't think anyone has suggested every putting 1/10 of the liberty people in NH. We are looking for 20,000 liberty activists. Well, if you think there are only 20,000 liberty activists in the world, than I guess I am wrong. I think it is a good idea. My rent is under $300 a month (and that includes the property taxes my landlord pays the city I live in). I live downtown and love the city I live in.

 

[FTL_Ian]

Am I the only one who things putting all the liberty people in one place in NH is not the smartest plan?
Something about not having all your eggs in the same basket in case a drone accidentally levels Manchester..

My other issue with NH is the cost of living..
Property taxes in NH are WAY TO HIGH. $5,000+ a year on a 200K house in the Manchester area, I looked into moving there..
That is $420+ a month in taxes.. That is more than my car payment, it is more than half my mortgage payment..

If you don't concentrate activism, you will continue to get what you've always gotten - failure. We're winning in NH and we'll win more with more help.

Taxes here overall are lower than the rest of the country, is that right, Keith? Besides, the idea is to come here and roll back the state and taxes - we could use your help!