After watching this video, anyone still wants to cut funding for NASA?

Ummm.... so we sacrifice the freedom of space travel for the safety of staying in earths cradle?

Need I quote Franklin?

Shit, it's government inefficiencies, bureaucracies and regulations that hold it back from the common man, much of that in the name of Safety, Hallowed be thy Name.

I can only imagine what kind of "security" bureaucracy and procedures will be in place, 100 years from now, prior to your being able to board your connecting rocket to Phobos.

I kid, because if the scourge of government is not reigned in and eventually phased out, mankind will be wiped out.
 
Obama's war on NASA is another example of his war against America exceptionalism. He does not want us feel we are special anymore, exceptinal, just ordinary human beings, thereby worthy of totalitarian rule. He truely despises America and what we stand for. He is trying to erase our identity, history, and heritage. Why do you think he blames america first, goes on world apology tours, and bad mouths everyone who does not agree with his American-hating speeches and agenda.
 
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Obama's war on NASA is another example of his war against America exceptionalism. He does not want us feel we are special anymore, exceptinal, just ordinary human beings, thereby worthy of totalitarian rule. He truely despises America and what we stand for. He is trying to erase our identity, history, and heritage. Why do you think he blames america first, goes on world apology tours, and bad mouths everyone who does not agree with his American-hating speeches and agenda.

Are you sure you're on the right forum? I don't support Obama but let's not get into the false "American Exceptionalism" nonsense and "blame America" drivel. We aren't special. The only thing that makes us "special" is our ability to print money and use it to control other countries. It has nothing to do with you or I being special in any way, shape, or form over anyone else on this planet. I can't honestly believe you're a Paul supporter yet blather on about American Exceptionalism and blame America first rhetoric. Those are two things that don't get high reviews around here.

On topic: Our space program has been decent but the private sector could do it better and cheaper. There are a myriad of federal regulations working to keep space exploration the domain of government alone. You can't even get a plane off the ground without approval from the Feds. How will they react to your request to launch your own rocket and orbit your own satellite?? Or how the rocket fuel would be considered a dangerous explosive if you were in possession of it and you would go to jail.
 
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Are you sure you're on the right forum? I don't support Obama but let's not get into the false "American Exceptionalism" nonsense and "blame America" drivel. We aren't special. The only thing that makes us "special" is our ability to print money and use it to control other countries. It has nothing to do with you or I being special in any way, shape, or form over anyone else on this planet. I can't honestly believe you're a Paul supporter yet blather on about American Exceptionalism and blame America first rhetoric. Those are two things that don't get high reviews around here.

Good Grief dude, you got problems!!!!

American exceptionalism is nonsense to you?
Obamas Blame America for everything is nothing but drivel?
There is nothing special about America but our ability to print money?
You can't believe Im a Ron Paul supporter because I disagree with you?

Given what you just said I am not at all suprised. Hmmm...you ignore facts, resort to personal attacks, make claims that your some how the gatekeeper on issues, and others don't belong here because they don't agree with you. Can we get a mod to delete this Liberal/Progressive spy from out boards plz!!!!

P.S For the record...I DO BELIEVE AMERICA IS SPECIAL, SO WHY DON'T YOU STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT WAY, MAYBE YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYWAY
 
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It still amazes me that the only reason we see the shuttle curving as it's lifting off is because the earth is rotating the shuttle is moving straight up....
 
Abolish the whole thing. People can go do space if and when they want to go to space. You don't need theft to do it. Again with the false assumption that if the state happens to be doing something that means only the state can do it.
 
It still amazes me that the only reason we see the shuttle curving as it's lifting off is because the earth is rotating the shuttle is moving straight up....

I know, right? That's something.



I'm for cutting spending all around, NASA is no exception.
I'm sure private citizens and businesses, given the chance, can do it better, cheaper, and faster.
 
after watching the video in the OP, it feels like our attempts at space travel are feeble at best.

maybe it's just years of watching star trek. . .
 
That could have been an ICBM and the people would still be amazed. Whether it is a nasa shuttle or an icbm, we cannot afford to amaze people any more.
 
Star Trek/Carl Sagan nerds better pay attention to what is happening in Planet Earth instead of engaging in technology/cosmos worship.
 
That is pretty cool. Imagine if government didnt have space exploration by the balls... this would not been seen as amazing because it would be a lot more common.
 
Not only cut their funding but shut the whole damn thing down. Private industry can do this much better than the government could ever dream of and while blasting crap into space is cool, I would prefer not have my pockets picked so that others can float in space. Outside of defense purposes we have no real need for the government to blast anything into space anyway.
 
That is pretty cool. Imagine if government didnt have space exploration by the balls... this would not been seen as amazing because it would be a lot more common.

The only things that would survive are the things that make money (telecomunication satellites, geographical satellites for business purposes, etc). The "curiosity" stuff would totally disappear...im cool with that. Mankind will never exit the solar system or colonize anything...so...
 
Surprisingly NASA is the one single part of our government that I don't think should have anything cut from it. Rather sure I'm in the minority on this one though.

NASA is either the smallest government program we have or one of the very smallest ($15-17 Billion) and is the only part of our government that gives us back way more than we ever put into it. Not only do it help us further our education system with discoveries that force us to rewrite our textbooks, but they do also create thousands of technologies and patents that create spin-offs that make it into the economy. These spin-offs form companies, release new products onto the market and create jobs.

Website showing everyday items that stemmed from NASA: http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/nasacity/index2.htm

Most people think they just run space shuttles from time to time but NASA does far more than just space and preforms research in every branch of science from Medical, to Weather to Material Engineering.

What seals the deal for me is when you compare the whole of NASA's budget for one year next to the Iraq War. Would you rather expand Man's knowledge of our Universe or pay roll maybe 2 week in Iraq blowing up children and country side.

See...I even made it really easy for you there. ;) Seriously, NASA is one of the very few things are government does correctly. I'm for private companies working in space too but while getting close, we aren't there yet and I doubt some of the for profit space companies will be doing as much medical research and helping to fund a lot of University research.
 
*facepalm*

Ok. So you realise that the Universe is a rather rather big and that the Earth is just about the tiniest dot possible to compare sizes with it? There is far more stuff to research and learn from out there in Cosmos then we'll ever find here. And that it is really only because of NASA that we can study our own planet to the level we can today.

Think Katrina was bad? Without NASA we would have weather satellites to study Earth's Weather, provide you with a 7 day forecast, and see Hurricanes coming a few weeks in advance. Sure you do some of that with planes, but having a camera in geosynchronous orbit is also pretty dang handy.

Like GPS? That's been a boon for getting around this rock we call Earth and satellite photos and mapping the earth's magnetic field has been pretty handy explaining how tectonic plates work, and to find old human civilizations since buried under soil or forests. If NASA goes, our ability to study and learn about the earth will take a giant step backwards.
 
Seriously, NASA is one of the very few things are government does correctly.

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Shall I continue?

Nobody will argue that what NASA does is not cool and yes lots of amazing things have been developed because of NASA but those same items would have been developed just the same for private industries as they would have been for a government agency. Just because something is nifty does not mean it is not a waste of resources. Sure, maybe it is not as much as it costs us in our lame attempt to police the world but that again is beside the point. Why should we be forced to choose between two bloated programs. I say we cut both and start saving some real money.
 
I'm not going to watch the video. But, yeah, no matter what's in it, I'm for completely eliminating NASA from the federal budget.

If you want to keep funding it voluntarily, go ahead.
 
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