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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MjsjhQxqE[/url]
The witnesses:
[QUOTE][B]The Honorable James F. Dobbins[/B]
Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan
U.S. Department of State
[B]Mr. Donald L. Sampler[/B]
Assistant to the Administrator
Office of Afghanistan and Pakistan Affairs
U.S. Agency for International Development
[B]Mr. Michael J. Dumont[/B]
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Afghanistan, Pakistan, & Central Asia
U.S. Department of Defense[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MjsjhQxqE[/url]
The witnesses:
[QUOTE][B]The Honorable James F. Dobbins[/B]
Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan
U.S. Department of State
[B]Mr. Donald L. Sampler[/B]
Assistant to the Administrator
Office of Afghanistan and Pakistan Affairs
U.S. Agency for International Development
[B]Mr. Michael J. Dumont[/B]
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Afghanistan, Pakistan, & Central Asia
U.S. Department of Defense[/QUOTE]
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Christ.
What's worse?
What's worse?
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Just collect a paycheck, rubber stamp whatever special interest wants, get a new future job at the bundler's office after .gov retirement.
Hire only sycophants and drones... do as "The Borg" says, be part of the inefficient/ineffective collective, ask no questions, challenge nothing, appear to be important.
Hire only sycophants and drones... do as "The Borg" says, be part of the inefficient/ineffective collective, ask no questions, challenge nothing, appear to be important.
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I just sent this to a local conservative talk show host. Feel free to customize and send your own copy to talk radio as well. Then call it. It's time when push back these bastards on the idea that we must "support the troops by supporting their mission."
Rohrabacker makes a wonderful case on why we need to get the hell out
of Afghanistan now! He also talks about how his dad, who fought in
North Korea, told him that none of the men he fought with would have
thought we would still be in North Korea 50 years later. The "experts"
he was talking to didn't know how much it cost per year to be in
Afghanistan, or how many dead or wounded U.S. troops we had
there LAST YEAR! All they could say is "Well there have been
30 times the number of Afghan police and soldiers killed." To that
Rohraerbacker replied that that wasn't his concern as they've been
killing each other for centuries. Then he asked how much their
plan for a continued U.S. / NATO presence would cost. They didn't
have a total number. They did say it would cost 1 MILLION DOLLARS
PER SOLDIER! Hamid Kharzai didn't have a number of how many
troops he would "allow" to stay in his country, but the "expert"
estimated that 14,000 were needed. Let's see. 14,000 x 1 million
= $14,000,000,000 per year! 14 BILLION dollars! Rohrabacker
went on to point out that it seems we are "groveling" to Kharzai
who is corrupt, connected to drug dealing, has been skimming
U.S. aid and is engaged in cronyism. He said that to keep our
presence in Afghanistan we have to deal with the Pakistanis
and we know the Pakistani ISI is funding the people who are
killing U.S. soldiers.
Phil, we cannot balance the budget simply on repealing Obamacare,
which needs to happen, and curbing entitlements. We have to
STOP spending billions of dollars per year or wars that are not
serving our interest. The Iraq war never served our interest. It
was a disaster for Iraqi Christians who were better off under
Saddam. Tariq Aziz, Saddam's second in command, was
Christian. Yes Saddam was an evil man. But the ethnic cleansing
of Christians in Iraq, with rapes, murders, burning of churches and
wholesale destruction of neighborhoods, didn't happen when he was
in charge. It's like Assad in Syria is an evil man. But it turns out that
the chemical weapons used in Syria were likely used by the rebels.
(By the way, the U.S. Army War College determined years ago that
it was the Iranians, and not Saddam, who gassed the Kurds. But
when Bush needed another reason to launch a needless war that
fact was conveniently forgotten. Now we have an Iranian backed
Shiite regime in Iraq that has written Sharia law into the Iraqi
constitution. It ticks me off that many "conservatives" will look
at this wrong and say "Obama shouldn't let the enemy know
when we're going to leave" as opposed to "Obama isn't getting
us the hell out fast enough." I had to listen to you and others
"blame" Obama for "leaving" Iraq in 2014. But Bush had already
negotiated 2014 as the exit date. Obama tried to stay LONGER
but the Iranian backed Shiite government of Iraq would agree
to his terms.
Hopefully Dana Rohrabacker's rant is signaling a new turning
point for the GOP. Hopefully more are learning about the
dangers of an aggressive military led foreign policy that often
ends up funding and strengthening our enemies while decimating
our treasury and needlessly killing and maiming Americans.
Somehow though, I wonder if these Afghan "experts" were from
the McCain or Romney administration if they would have gotten
the same grilling.
Here are the links that back up what I'm saying:
1) Rohrabacker's rant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d2MjsjhQxqE
2) Ethnic cleansing of Iraq.
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/ethniccleansingof-christiansinIraq.html
Notice that the Kurds that we love to hold up as "victims" are killing
Christians too.
3) Tariq Aziz Christian
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-10-years-later-where-are-they-now-tariq-aziz
4) Saddam didn't gas the Kurds
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/a-war-crime-or-an-act-of-war.html
5) Bush, not Obama, negotiated the 2014 withdrawal date from Iraq
http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/
6) Iraqi constitution imposes Sharia law
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/war_for_islamic_sharia_law.html
7) Here is the Iraqi constitution itself. Notice that Article 2 declares
Islam to be the official religion and states that all laws must be
subordinate to Islam.
http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/pu..._aids/documents/legaldocument/wcms_125861.pdf
Rohrabacker makes a wonderful case on why we need to get the hell out
of Afghanistan now! He also talks about how his dad, who fought in
North Korea, told him that none of the men he fought with would have
thought we would still be in North Korea 50 years later. The "experts"
he was talking to didn't know how much it cost per year to be in
Afghanistan, or how many dead or wounded U.S. troops we had
there LAST YEAR! All they could say is "Well there have been
30 times the number of Afghan police and soldiers killed." To that
Rohraerbacker replied that that wasn't his concern as they've been
killing each other for centuries. Then he asked how much their
plan for a continued U.S. / NATO presence would cost. They didn't
have a total number. They did say it would cost 1 MILLION DOLLARS
PER SOLDIER! Hamid Kharzai didn't have a number of how many
troops he would "allow" to stay in his country, but the "expert"
estimated that 14,000 were needed. Let's see. 14,000 x 1 million
= $14,000,000,000 per year! 14 BILLION dollars! Rohrabacker
went on to point out that it seems we are "groveling" to Kharzai
who is corrupt, connected to drug dealing, has been skimming
U.S. aid and is engaged in cronyism. He said that to keep our
presence in Afghanistan we have to deal with the Pakistanis
and we know the Pakistani ISI is funding the people who are
killing U.S. soldiers.
Phil, we cannot balance the budget simply on repealing Obamacare,
which needs to happen, and curbing entitlements. We have to
STOP spending billions of dollars per year or wars that are not
serving our interest. The Iraq war never served our interest. It
was a disaster for Iraqi Christians who were better off under
Saddam. Tariq Aziz, Saddam's second in command, was
Christian. Yes Saddam was an evil man. But the ethnic cleansing
of Christians in Iraq, with rapes, murders, burning of churches and
wholesale destruction of neighborhoods, didn't happen when he was
in charge. It's like Assad in Syria is an evil man. But it turns out that
the chemical weapons used in Syria were likely used by the rebels.
(By the way, the U.S. Army War College determined years ago that
it was the Iranians, and not Saddam, who gassed the Kurds. But
when Bush needed another reason to launch a needless war that
fact was conveniently forgotten. Now we have an Iranian backed
Shiite regime in Iraq that has written Sharia law into the Iraqi
constitution. It ticks me off that many "conservatives" will look
at this wrong and say "Obama shouldn't let the enemy know
when we're going to leave" as opposed to "Obama isn't getting
us the hell out fast enough." I had to listen to you and others
"blame" Obama for "leaving" Iraq in 2014. But Bush had already
negotiated 2014 as the exit date. Obama tried to stay LONGER
but the Iranian backed Shiite government of Iraq would agree
to his terms.
Hopefully Dana Rohrabacker's rant is signaling a new turning
point for the GOP. Hopefully more are learning about the
dangers of an aggressive military led foreign policy that often
ends up funding and strengthening our enemies while decimating
our treasury and needlessly killing and maiming Americans.
Somehow though, I wonder if these Afghan "experts" were from
the McCain or Romney administration if they would have gotten
the same grilling.
Here are the links that back up what I'm saying:
1) Rohrabacker's rant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d2MjsjhQxqE
2) Ethnic cleansing of Iraq.
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/ethniccleansingof-christiansinIraq.html
Notice that the Kurds that we love to hold up as "victims" are killing
Christians too.
3) Tariq Aziz Christian
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-10-years-later-where-are-they-now-tariq-aziz
4) Saddam didn't gas the Kurds
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/a-war-crime-or-an-act-of-war.html
5) Bush, not Obama, negotiated the 2014 withdrawal date from Iraq
http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/
6) Iraqi constitution imposes Sharia law
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/war_for_islamic_sharia_law.html
7) Here is the Iraqi constitution itself. Notice that Article 2 declares
Islam to be the official religion and states that all laws must be
subordinate to Islam.
http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/pu..._aids/documents/legaldocument/wcms_125861.pdf
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I dunno. Phil Valentine, the person I sent the email to, has started to become a bit more friendly to our ideas. He certainly said "Ron Paul was right about a lot of things...he just wasn't 'presidential'". (Whatever the hell that means.) Anyway, I've called into his show before. I'll call in again and reference this email. I'll let you know what he says.
What is the soldier's cut after tax? 2%?
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