Adrian Peterson indicted after giving his son a 'whooping'

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Its laughable that you compare a loving parent who pays for your sustenance and shelter to a cold-hearted police person who indirectly steals from you to enforce laws you may not agree with. Yea, that is how a normal person chooses to judge libertarians.

Loving parents don't beat on their kids with switches. Those are people, that believe in might makes right, and they raise kids that see the world with that distorted worldview. Oh I don't know like cops that get off on using their power on civilians.

 

[Natural Citizen]

...parents don't beat on their kids with switches. Those are people, that believe in might makes right, and they raise kids that see the world with that distorted worldview...

For the record, I've never once hit my kid. Ever. And I got the switch regularly. Although, I imagine that there would be some merit to what you are saying, it's no guarantee that this is the case. I don't get the worldview part, though.

 

[AlexAmore]

Loving parents don't beat on their kids with switches. Those are people, that believe in might makes right, and they raise kids that see the world with that distorted worldview. Oh I don't know like cops that get off on using their power on civilians.

Yep. The cops got beaten and when they grow up that's all they know how to do to "correct" a behavior. Then we wonder why cops are such dicks. Also, studies have been done that show inmates are FAR more likely to have been spanked. Also, the higher educated you are, the less likely you have been spanked.

Of course correlation doesn't equal causation, BUT it does show that spanking is a completely useless tool. Inmates have very little discipline and highly educated people have a A LOT of discipline...yet the spanking rate doesn't match the story all these people would have us believe.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

For the record, I've never once hit my kid. Ever. And I got the switch regularly. Although, I imagine that there would be some merit to what you are saying, it's no guarantee that this is the case. I don't get the worldview part, though.

Well, nothing is 100%.

However, the psychology of "switching" a child is to end all conversation, and present a consequence the child does not want to such a degree they will simply accept the "parents" dictates. It's not a strategy of teaching or helping a child to understand anything, it is a threat of accept my position or get the switch, because I pay the bills, and I'm bigger than you. That's it. Switching or spanking is a failure to parent, not parenting, if one views parenting as teaching a child, and helping them grow up as a capable human being that can think and reason. Spanking teaches, don't think just do what the authority says!!!

That's it.

IMO.... others are free to "switch" their children outside of my presence. You aren't being a "good" parent though, you are training your child to accept violence as a means to control others.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well, nothing is 100%.

However, the psychology of "switching" a child is to end all conversation, and present a consequence the child does not want to such a degree they will simply accept the "parents" dictates. It's not a strategy of teaching or helping a child to understand anything, it is a threat of accept my position or get the switch, because I pay the bills, and I'm bigger than you. That's it. Switching or spanking is a failure to parent, not parenting, if one views parenting as teaching a child, and helping them grow up as a capable human being that can think and reason. Spanking teaches, don't think just do what the authority says!!!

That's it.

IMO.... others are free to "switch" their children outside of my presence. You aren't being a "good" parent though, you are training your child to accept violence as a means to control others.

Yeah, I probably won't disagree with that. Is kind of what I was saying about the superiority complex. It's interesting, though, how this was socially acceptable way back when. You know?

 

[juleswin]

"Loving parents" like AP who have seven kids with seven women, don't know most of them, allows them to die, and beats them in the scrotem with a stick when he does see them.

Do you have any evidence apart from this whooping to show that Adrian Peterson is not a loving parent? Sorry, but him not having custody and the kid dying at the hands of the mother's boyfriend who had full custody is not Adrian Peterson's fault. But then again, I was talking in general terms why whooping a kid is not the same as police bossing you around.

This is going to sound a bit twisted, but you got to have a lot of love to beat a kid that you love, knowing full well that the kid would hate you for what you just did. My father told me at the time that the beating I was about to get would hurt him more than it hurt me and for the longest time I did not believe him. Now that I am older, I know what he meant by that. I was going to write something about him when that troll nickthegamer asked about black role models. I cannot begin to tell you all the good things that man has done for me. He definitely loved me at the time of the beating just the way he loves me today.

 

[cajuncocoa]

For those who say this used to be the norm....here are the pics of AP's son's injuries:

My parents used corporal punishment with me too....I don't agree with that approach, but that's how it was "back in the day". However, I never came away looking like that ^^

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

For those who say this used to be the norm....here are the pics of AP's son's injuries:


My parents used corporal punishment with me too....I don't agree with that approach, but that's how it was "back in the day". However, I never came away looking like that ^^

That's love!!!! according to some libertarians.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

Cripes, I used to get the switch all of the time. Right across the back of the bare legs too. It was the norm down south. Plus sometimes you had to go pick your own and if you came back with some flimsy twig you got it that much worse. After you went and picked another one, mind you.

lol. i learned that the hard way. i brought back a tiny weed one time. i got my ass beat! lol

 

[The Free Hornet]

That's love!!!! according to some libertarians.

Is there a middle path in this thread between beating children and being a smug a-hole? Perhaps it is printed on the Continental Currency of days gone by: Mind Your Business.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I see a difference between spanking and beating. This seems like it at least borders on the latter.

I'm not really sure what, if anything, should be done. But I don't think its OK.

 

[thoughtomator]

If you're drawing blood, that is not punishment - that's abuse.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Is there a middle path in this thread between beating children and being a smug a-hole? Perhaps it is printed on the Continental Currency of days gone by: Mind Your Business.

Said the slave master to the abolitionist.

What if I only beat the negro with this smaller whip, instead of this one, would that be okay. You see the negroid mind don't understand reasoning like us white men do, you got to whip em, or else they get all unruly. It's not easy providin fo all these negros mind you, if I can't keep em under control we might all starve. You see they aint capable of understandin, and that is what this is for. (display whip).

Now, I'm being an asshole.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What about the old "bunch-o-switches" gag? Huh? Who's had that one? With like ten or so of them.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Spanking and slavery aren't ethically comparable.

 

[William Tell]

Spanking is fine, some young men need ass, or giraffe whippings
Lotta sensationalizing in this thread.

 

[Natural Citizen]

My parents used corporal punishment with me too....I don't agree with that approach, but that's how it was "back in the day". However, I never came away looking like that ^^

I did. Worse, actually. Again, I'm not justifying it. I just don't get as shocked at seeing the aftermath or hearing about it as much as some in the modern generation do. It's a gap, I suppose.

 

[dillo]

Are you opposed to black men taking responsibility for raising their boys with discipline

If they are 4 yea, thats just stupid

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Maybe this can help explain the South's horrific crime rate.

That, or the high minority populations...

 

[cajuncocoa]

Are you opposed to black men taking responsibility for raising their boys with discipline

So much fail in one sentence.