ABC News: Accused Colorado shooter appears "dazed" in court.

[RonRules]

A "dazed" look is a classic case of a severe neurosis, psychosis or the like.

Won't anybody here realize that the guy just went crazy?

There is no conspiracy here.

Replying to my own post because I was right.

Just like I said he's being treated for mental illness, schizophrenia as I stated a few posts before.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ing-treated-by-schizophrenia-specialist/page2

Here's what will come up next, which I stated earlier: he will be found to have STOPPED taking his medication. Again, please don't blame Big Pharma if he STOPPED his drugs. That's always the problem with these guys. They stop taking the drugs and go nuts.

If he had not taken them in the first place he probably would have committed suicide, which some will argue in retrospect, would have been a good thing.

 

[Indy Vidual]

...That's always the problem with these guys. They stop taking the drugs...

Natural schizophrenia treatment

 

[RonRules]

Natural schizophrenia treatment

Show me good, large, real double-blind placebo controlled studies that indicate that. All you show me are google results from "natural" supplement stores like earthclinic.com or whatever.

That's not how science works. You have to prove your claims.

We have a pretty pretty good thread if you want to spew your Alt-Med nonsense. It's about anti-vaccine, but what the hell, it's best to keep all the nonsense together:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...on-sense-by-Science-Reason-amp-Steven-Novella

 

[RickyJ]

Replying to my own post because I was right.

Talking to yourself and proclaiming yourself "right" is not a sign of sanity.

 

[Revolution9]

Show me good, large, real double-blind placebo controlled studies that indicate that. All you show me are google results from "natural" supplement stores like earthclinic.com or whatever.

That's not how science works. You have to prove your claims.

We have a pretty pretty good thread if you want to spew your Alt-Med nonsense. It's about anti-vaccine, but what the hell, it's best to keep all the nonsense together:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...on-sense-by-Science-Reason-amp-Steven-Novella

You are either totally misinformed, own lots of pharma stock oe are a paid shill but yer BS and snark don't cut the mustard. I am way smarter than you and I ain't fooled by your vehemence and sidetracking tactics. The evidence is all over the web and you do not want to properly research it or have preferred to ignore it to bolster your line of BS.. You call other peoples children filthy and bacteria ridden. You are not one to take any sort of medical advice from. The best vaccine a kids can have is to pick his dirty nose and eat it. If you picked yours your skull would cave in.

Rev9

 

[roho76]

You are either totally misinformed, own lots of pharma stock oe are a paid shill but yer BS and snark don't cut the mustard. I am way smarter than you and I ain't fooled by your vehemence and sidetracking tactics. The evidence is all over the web and you do not want to properly research it or have preferred to ignore it to bolster your line of BS.. You call other peoples children filthy and bacteria ridden. You are not one to take any sort of medical advice from. The best vaccine a kids can have is to pick his dirty nose and eat it. If you picked yours your skull would cave in.

Rev9

Oh! I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

 

[RonRules]

You are either totally misinformed,

I'm just asking for a good, large, real double-blind placebo controlled study, preferably reproduced by multiple research teams in different countries, showing that your grass clippings are curing schizophrenia.

So it's quite the opposite. YOU are misinformed because you take everything you see on the internet at truth.

I can pull up thousands of well conducted research showing that psych drugs are effective. You can't do the same with your snake oil.

Big Pharma HAS to do that before they put a drug on the market. The FDA forces them to doa that.

 

[low preference guy]

I'm just asking for a good, large, real double-blind placebo controlled study, preferably reproduced by multiple research teams in different countries, showing that your grass clippings are curing schizophrenia.

So it's quite the opposite. YOU are misinformed because you take everything you see on the internet at truth.

I can pull up thousands of well conducted research showing that psych drugs are effective. You can't do the same with your snake oil.

Big Pharma HAS to do that before they put a drug on the market. The FDA forces them to doa that.

don't you realize that patent laws pretty much guarantees that almost all research that can be funded is those of artificial drugs? if you find that for example bananas have a medicinal benefit for some illness, would you have a monopoly to sell bananas? obviously not. you do with other drugs. hence, research money goes there.

 

[angelatc]

Sure, cases of undiagnosed schizophrenia, but such a dynamic change that would lead someone to elaborately kill both a federal judge and a democratic congresswoman??

You're trying to make sense of insanity.

 

[donnay]

Replying to my own post because I was right.

No!

I think you might be suffering from Schizophrenia.

 

[Weston White]

You're trying to make sense of insanity.

No, while however, Ordo Ab Chao.

 

[Bruno]

No, while however, Ordo Ab Chao.

+ rep for Hegelian ref

 

[Revolution9]

I'm just asking for a good, large, real double-blind placebo controlled study, preferably reproduced by multiple research teams in different countries, showing that your grass clippings are curing schizophrenia.

Curing schizohrenia can be as simple in some cases as stopping gluten in the diet. Some Schizophrenia patients with a multi-decade history got well, returned to normal within a couple of weeks of stopping gluten based products. Just this alone calls their drug regimens into severe question. BTW. I was youngest ever recruit to do OJT at the National Defense Medical Centre and graduated top three at Canadian Forces Medical Services School class of 75.

Rev9

 

[RonRules]

returned to normal within a couple of weeks of stopping gluten based products.

This is extraordinary! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Carl Sagan.

Cough up the peer-reviewed, prestigious journal published, large scale, well executed, confirmed by other research, double-blind, placebo-controlled study and I'll believe you.

Until then, good luck.

 

[dancjm]

Is it strange that he was a research intern at the Salk Institute, and that Salk Institute was partnered with DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) a couple of years ago?

These sources confirm the partnership:
Sci-Fi Superheroes
Enhancing the Warriors - CNN 2005

I also saw this link is going around, and it is being said that this is his father:
Robert Holmes | LinkedIn

No idea if it really is, but this Robert Holmes previously worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc.

According to the HNC Company Profile:

HNC is working on a long-term research project launched in 1998 that is jointly funded by HNC and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), part of the U.S. Defense Department

COMPANY PROFILE: HNC SOFTWARE INC.

For those not familiar with DARPA:

Wiki DARPA

Darpa Wants Remote Controls to Master Troop Minds | Danger Room | Wired.com

DARPA Wants to Install Transcranial Ultrasonic Mind Control Devices in Soldiers Helmets | Popular Science

DARPA has been trying to crawl inside the minds of soldiers for a while now, but a new ultrasound technology could let them get deeper inside than ever.

Is that really his father? If it is, is this coincidence?

 

[moostraks]

This is extraordinary! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Carl Sagan.

Cough up the peer-reviewed, prestigious journal published, large scale, well executed, confirmed by other research, double-blind, placebo-controlled study and I'll believe you.

Until then, good luck.

You must have missed this the first time...so here you go...

don't you realize that patent laws pretty much guarantees that almost all research that can be funded is those of artificial drugs? if you find that for example bananas have a medicinal benefit for some illness, would you have a monopoly to sell bananas? obviously not. you do with other drugs. hence, research money goes there.

 

[Revolution9]

This is extraordinary! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Carl Sagan.

Cough up the peer-reviewed, prestigious journal published, large scale, well executed, confirmed by other research, double-blind, placebo-controlled study and I'll believe you.

Until then, good luck.

It is medically documented. I ain't chasing around looking for links I read months back because even if they were shoved up yer fundament your internal state of ignorance would ignore them and you would come up with some other sidetracking BS to waste my time with. I don't have to prove anything to you. I am not your tutor. I am your adversary. I just state facts for those interested in such. You are on the crusade. I am simply disseminating real world knowledge. This will remain why I am your adversary, to clarify the standing situation.

ETA: This was so frikkin' easy I am gonna shove this link up yer fundament. The whole page of links is science and medical and psyche publications. One day you dogma slingers will learn not to mess with me or end up looking like bozo the drooldonkey deluxe.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gluten+and+schizphrenia&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Rev9

 

[RonRules]

find that for example bananas have a medicinal benefit for some illness, would you have a monopoly to sell bananas?

Doctors, real doctors, advise people to eat bananas.

It's a conspiracy! It's Big Banana!

 

[moostraks]

Doctors, real doctors, advise people to eat bananas.

It's a conspiracy! It's Big Banana!

so this is your intelligent response to the previous poster? Why don't you address the response to your argument preferably in an adult or at least coherant fashion?

Oh fwiw most doctors nowadays would first ask if folks are taking their pills (vitamin supplements) before asking if you ate yer bananas.

 

[Weston White]

Doctors, real doctors, advise people to eat bananas.

It's a conspiracy! It's Big Banana!

Sure, sure, this is exactly why McCain is being lobbied to sponsor legislation to ban vitamin C and the like (Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA); The Codex Alimentarius Commission, WHO, UNFAO, et al).