A new prank called SWATting allows police to search and seize.

[Zuras]

What's the matter, rookie, can't keep up?

Post something that suggests, proves or indicates that anybody, including Oscar Grant, was armed on that subway train that night.

Otherwise STFU, try reading and understanding where we are coming from, before coming in here and insulting long time, paying, forum members.

I don't care who you are, what you buy, what you do, or even what you think. I'm only concerned with what arguments one espouses. Yours, for instance, are always illogical and idiotic. But in the future, if you ever want the chance for me to respond to them, try to do so in the right freakin thread, poo-flinger.

 

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Oh, but why a body part and not the M-16 with an under-barrel RPG? The body part suggests he may have done something wrong, but so does the M-16. There are no situations where an RPG mounted M-16 is legal on a civilian.

Thats because you CAN'T mount an RPG under the barrel of an M-16! An RPG is a ROCKET PROPELLED GRENADE, like that of an AT-4 or Panzerfaust, while an M203 is GRENADE LAUNCHER. At least have the knowledge to know what the fuck you're talking about if you're going to spout ridiculous horseshit. It makes you not sound like a [Redacted by Mod]
Furthermore, since you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, it IS legal to mount an M203 Grenade Launcher under an M-16 if you have a Destructive Devices License.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't care who you are, what you buy, what you do, or even what you think. I'm only concerned with what arguments one espouses. Yours, for instance, are always illogical and idiotic. But in the future, if you ever want the chance for me to respond to them, try to do so in the right freakin thread, poo-flinger.

And none of us cares who you are. We can see what you buy. If you don't get paid for what you do, you're missing a bet (but then again, you're not that good at it, are you?). And I, for one, see little evidence that you think at all.

You claim AntiFed's arguments are idiotic and illogical. Well, let's set these opinions aside. After all, opinions are like hemorrhoids--every asshole is entitled. But at least he flings arguments, rather than empty accusations and misplaced insults.

And did he not ask for a response in the right freaking thread and get ignored? And who is flinging what? I suppose that's one way to get some privacy in your glass house, friend, but I sure don't know how you endure the smell...

 

[TonySutton]

Q: What do you get when you cross someone who is full of themselves with free time between classes?








A: Troll

 

[pcosmar]

Dang,
First he flaunts his ignorance then fling insults at long and established members.

M-16 with an under-barrel RPG?

Got a chuckle out of this.

This could be entertaining.

 

[Wendi]

I think the real issue here, is they better make d@mn sure they know WHY they are knocking down doors and threatening to shoot people...

 

[acptulsa]

I think the real issue here, is they better make d@mn sure they know WHY they are knocking down doors and threatening to shoot people...

Thank you! Thank you very much! The vast majority of the Constitution is intimitely involved with just that--not does government have a right to, but when does govenment have a right to--yet our 'friend' here says let them prosecute their happy mistakes until they're delirious with their own incompetence!

And then he has the moral turpitude to invoke the Department of Justice. Well, friend, in your perfect world justice won't be what that particular department is all about...

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Q: What do you get when you cross someone who is full of themselves with free time between classes?

Kludge

 

[Zuras]

Thats because you CAN'T mount an RPG under the barrel of an M-16! An RPG is a ROCKET PROPELLED GRENADE, like that of an AT-4 or Panzerfaust, while an M203 is GRENADE LAUNCHER. At least have the knowledge to know what the fuck you're talking about if you're going to spout ridiculous horseshit. It makes you not sound like a [Redacted by Mod].

Furthermore, since you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, it IS legal to mount an M203 Grenade Launcher under an M-16 if you have a Destructive Devices License.

You don't know wtf you are talking about. My father almost always used a modified M-16 in vietnam with a bunker buster explosive round, two others in his squad had standard grenade launchers mounted. It was a rocket powered grenade for all intents and purposes.

You tell me what state you live in where a civilian can run around with one of those as a concealed weapon. But more importantly and relevant to the issue in question,:how does dropping one on the ground not grant "probable cause" to the officer?

 

[amy31416]

You don't know wtf you are talking about, you ignorant twat. My father almost always used a modified M-16 in vietnam with a bunker buster explosive round, two others in his squad had standard grenade launchers mounted. It was a rocket powered grenade for all intents and purposes.

You tell me what state you live in where a civilian can run around with one of those as a concealed weapon. But more importantly and relevant to the issue in question,:how does dropping one on the ground not grant "probable cause" to the officer?

You haven't really put in enough time here to get away with an ad hominem against another member, as far as I can tell from the forum guidelines.

But I'm all for free speech, so I won't report you, but someone else might. You may want to put a little more thought into your responses.

 

[Zuras]

You haven't really put in enough time here to get away with an ad hominem against another member, as far as I can tell from the forum guidelines.

But I'm all for free speech, so I won't report you, but someone else might. You may want to put a little more thought into your responses.

I have no fear that any moderator with a brain in his or her head could go through my posts in this thread and others and see how incredibly rarely I've used any kind of personal attack and then saw the vast and muerous personal attacks against me, would waste there time with me, instead of the chronic forum disrupters who think their post counts will somehow innoculate them.

 

[pcosmar]

He He he!!

bunker buster explosive round,

That's funny right there,
I don't care who you are.

This guys ignorance is truly humorous.

FYI, A rocket propelled grenade (RPG) Has a Back blast when fired,
Mounted under an M16 would FRY the shooter.

Keep going. Mall Ninjas are entertaining.
http://www.geocities.com/suketh.geo/gun/mall_ninja.html

 

[dannno]

Let's say a cop is chasing after a fleeing suspect and accidentally knocks down and trip over some guy. The guy falls down and out from his coat drops a bag of coke, a sheet of acid, an illegal firearm. Are YOU saying the policeman should not arrest this peson, and they should not be tried for their cimes?

That is exactly what we are saying, in fact. We are against the war on drugs and for the second amendment, why should they be prosecuted for non-crimes??

 

[Zuras]

That is exactly what we are saying, in fact. We are against the war on drugs and for the second amendment, why should they be prosecuted for non-crimes??

You and many others conflate (most purposefully so -- but not you, I don't think) two different issues. Probable cause/warrant issues versus legalaity of things currently deemed illegal, including the drugs used in my hypothetical scenario.

 

[pcosmar]

Originally Posted by Zuras
Let's say a cop is chasing after a fleeing suspect and accidentally knocks down and trip over some guy. The guy falls down and out from his coat drops a bag of coke, a sheet of acid, an illegal firearm. Are YOU saying the policeman should not arrest this peson, and they should not be tried for their cimes?

What crime?
The cop should be arrested for interfering with the Constitutional Rights of a Citizen.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

THIS IS THE LAW

Get a clue.

 

[acptulsa]

That's funny right there,
I don't care who you are.

This guys ignorance is truly humorous.

Oh, the backwash isn't as good as the misuse of the term bunker buster. As I understand it, that term is pretty much limited to items the B-1B struggles to lift. Does he think the British Tall Boy was so named because of its resemblance to a sixteen ounce beer can?

 

[Zuras]

What crime?
The cop should be arrested for interfering with the Constitutional Rights of a Citizen.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

THIS IS THE LAW

Get a clue.

This is beside the point, and neither here nor there. But as an aside, it's not so simple because of the predacation of the need for a militia. If it were so straight forward, felons would not have their "right" infringed, yeah?

 

[acptulsa]

If it were so straight forward, felons would not have their "right" infringed, yeah?

If it were straightforward, neither would anyone else. Nice the way you put right in quotes, there...

And that word in the predicate of your previous sentence is spelled 'predicated'.

 

[dannno]

You and many others conflate (most purposefully so -- but not you, I don't think) two different issues. Probable cause/warrant issues versus legalaity of things currently deemed illegal, including the drugs used in my hypothetical scenario.

Well then try turning it into one issue and consider why we might be against the idea of letting cops finding things "accidentally".. because almost everything that they find are actually non-crimes and go against the idea of personal privacy, property rights, etc.. They are then allowed to seize property without filing formal charges.

Maybe if we lived in a free society and people were only prosecuted for harming others then it wouldn't be such a big deal. This would be a non-issue.

 

[Zuras]

If it were straightforward, neither would anyone else. Nice the way you put right in quotes, there...

And that word in the predicate of your previous sentence is spelled 'predicated'.

No, it's actually spelt predication, smarty wanna-be.