A Muslim Ban Is Logical, Moral, And Even Libertarian

[Thor]

And there you have it. The same excuse used by every statist ever. The second statement completely and totally invalidates the first.

"I like liberty - as long as it's the type of liberty that I like!" Thanks for putting it so succinctly. The rest of the post was just a lame attempt at justifying that statement.

I like preserving liberty, and anyone who doesn't is not a defender of liberty, but is aiding in the demise of liberty.

Get back to me when you watch the videos. All you have to do is click play... So simple even a someone willing to sacrifice liberty in the "name of liberty" can do it.








Fucking animals: https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000004108808/the-killing-of-farkhunda.html?src=vidm

 

[Identity]

Not false.

Still fails to watch and address the videos.

Lol funny the user "AZJoe" used the same word ("verbose") to describe my comments in his neg rep of my post. Seems like this guy likes to talk by pointing and grunting. Judging by his prior substance-less "#NotAllMuslims" post he's probably afraid of actual arguments that can't fit onto bumper stickers, like most Americans.

 

[Identity]

And there you have it. The same excuse used by every statist ever. The second statement completely and totally invalidates the first.

"I like liberty - as long as it's the type of liberty that I like!" Thanks for putting it so succinctly. The rest of the post was just a lame attempt at justifying that statement.

Honestly, the first thing I would do as a Dictator is pass a law sentencing every adult who uses the word "statist" to the guillotine. What exactly is liberty? How are you defining it? This sounds like a creepy cult mentality. Hey 90% of America is bloc voting for the Democratic Party but man, at least we still have our liberty!

Most people do not even recognize that there are more sects in the Muslim world as there are in the Christian. The Islam bashing is like blaming all Christians for the Westboro Baptist Church antics.

Westboro Baptist members are law-abiding, intelligent people who stage controversial, yet peaceful protests. Mass Islamic immigration seriously threatens the demographics, culture, and politics of the new nations that they enter. This doesn't make us "Muslim-haters." I probably have had more positive interactions with Muslims and Islam than most of you posting here, but defending these disturbing trends isn't bravery, it's cowardice.

6. Little to no concern of growing the welfare state due to immigration. Conversation is refocused back to #1.

Nah, man, you see- the real thing we shouldn't be pushing for is stopping mass immigration. No, no, no. We should be trying to take aware welfare from the single moms who are struggling to get by! Mass immigration + mass starvation on the streets, that'll skyrocket GOP approval ratings to the heavens.

 

[CaptUSA]

I like preserving liberty, and anyone who doesn't is not a defender of liberty, but is aiding in the demise of liberty.

Get back to me when you watch the videos.

Listen, I watched your video yesterday (didn't bother with the rest). I'm not sure what you thought was going to happen??? Did you think I was going to stop treating people like individuals? Uh, not likely.

Sure. There are a lot of bad Muslims. But there are a lot of bad Christians, atheists and agnostics, too. It's why rational people judge each individual based on the content of their character and not some ridiculous religious test. Maybe you should try watching your videos again. Check out the stats again. Only this time, think about the opposite numbers. The numbers of people that you feel justified in maligning because of the others. So even if you trust these numbers, if 27% of Muslims think apostates should be executed, that means 73% of them do not! And so on.

Finally, if you are really worried about a terrorist killing you, then you are really falling for the boogeyman. You like statistics, right? You're far more likely to be killed by a shark - do you stay out of the ocean? Would you spend trillions of dollars and give up your liberty to keep sharks out of the ocean? If it's a political fear you have, your just as likely to have a college-educated secular white vote to take away your liberties as a Muslim. But no... You have a boogeyman to fear. Completely irrational no matter which way you cut it.

Here's a tip. Just try to get to know people as individuals. When you do that, you can get down to real reasons to hate people. At least then it won't be based on some stupid fear you have about what segment of the population they share.

 

[CaptUSA]

Honestly, the first thing I would do as a Dictator is pass a law sentencing every adult who uses the word "statist" to the guillotine. What exactly is liberty? How are you defining it? This sounds like a creepy cult mentality. Hey 90% of America is bloc voting for the Democratic Party but man, at least we still have our liberty!

 

[otherone]

Here's a tip. Just try to get to know people as individuals. When you do that, you can get down to real reasons to hate people. At least then it won't be based on some stupid fear you have about what segment of the population they share.

Another tip: Hold people accountable for what they do, not what you fear they might do.

 

[oyarde]

I like Liberty , we do not though live in a liberty society we live in a welfare society . Given the fact that we live in a welfare society and the likelihood of that ever changing without economic collapse is nil , is there a legitimate reason that the US welfare nation allows immigration at all ? I am aware of no reasons .

 

[kahless]

Lol funny the user "AZJoe" used the same word ("verbose") to describe my comments in his neg rep of my post. Seems like this guy likes to talk by pointing and grunting. Judging by his prior substance-less "#NotAllMuslims" post he's probably afraid of actual arguments that can't fit onto bumper stickers, like most Americans.

Like Ender maybe AZjoe is another Muslim. See posting pattern.

Posting pattern of RPF Muslim activists:

1. They always focus on blaming US intervention 100% of the time as the cause of Islamic terrorism without recognizing or room for recognizing the following issues below.

2. No recognition that the past cannot be undone and for risk management based on what they believe are past wrongs the US has committed. They always re-direct the conversation back to #1.

3. Absolutely no concern for radical Islam and jihadist immigration or retribution from what they believe from #1. They refocus the conversation back on #1.

4. No mention or concern for US victims or potential US victims. When it is brought up they always go right back to #1 and/or the victims of #1.

5. No concern over a statist authoritarian belief system masquerading as a religion and in some cases they make a moral equivalence to modern Christianity for which there is no Christian terrorism on the scale of radical Islam. Conversation is redirected back to #1.

6. Little to no concern of growing the welfare state due to immigration. Conversation is refocused back to #1.

7. No recognition that mass immigration of peoples with opposing ideology will make individual liberty or any form of living in a libertarian like society impossible in our life time. They refocus the conversation back on #1.

8. If someone points out that #1 is not entirely the issue and raises issues 2 to 7, they are immediately slammed as full of "hate", fearful, a Trump supporter as an epithet , called a Neocon, a Nazi or anti-semite, demeaned in some manner, or some other personal attack or falsely accused of a personal attack and are hit with negative reps.

You quoted this part a few posts back: "Little to no concern of growing the welfare state due to immigration", notice I called out "immigration", in other words immigrants coming here and receiving welfare, not American single moms.

 

[Thor]

Listen, I watched your video yesterday (didn't bother with the rest). I'm not sure what you thought was going to happen??? Did you think I was going to stop treating people like individuals? Uh, not likely.

Well speak up then... I only asked about 4 or 5 times if anyone watched them.. Did you not read those queries?

So the killing of Farkhunda was cool with you? The muslim patrols in London on non muslims? The Swedish shit holes, I mean "no go zones"?

"Oh, that is a minority. You can't group an individual into a minority"

Bull shit...

Sure. There are a lot of bad Muslims.

Yes, there are.. a whole lot...

But there are a lot of bad Christians, atheists and agnostics, too. It's why rational people judge each individual based on the content of their character and not some ridiculous religious test.

Yes, there are... but none of them follow a "religion" (aka political party) that wants to conquer everyone else at all costs....

Maybe you should try watching your videos again. Check out the stats again. Only this time, think about the opposite numbers. The numbers of people that you feel justified in maligning because of the others. So even if you trust these numbers, if 27% of Muslims think apostates should be executed, that means 73% of them do not! And so on.

So 3 out of 10 people walking the streets who want to stone you is A-OK with you? Got it.

Finally, if you are really worried about a terrorist killing you, then you are really falling for the boogeyman. You like statistics, right? You're far more likely to be killed by a shark - do you stay out of the ocean? Would you spend trillions of dollars and give up your liberty to keep sharks out of the ocean? If it's a political fear you have, your just as likely to have a college-educated secular white vote to take away your liberties as a Muslim. But no... You have a boogeyman to fear. Completely irrational no matter which way you cut it.

It is common sense. Here is danger that has raised their hand stating they are a danger. Let's just pretend like they haven't raised their hand. And all will be rosy.

Here's a tip. Just try to get to know people as individuals. When you do that, you can get down to real reasons to hate people. At least then it won't be based on some stupid fear you have about what segment of the population they share.

That is not needed when they have self identified as part of a group hell bent on world domination,, conquering everyone else and killing those who do not acquiesce. And removing liberty for those that do...

Another tip: Hold people accountable for what they do, not what you fear they might do.

Here is a tip, look at previous actions and belief systems to predict future actions and protect accordingly.

 

[Danke]

I like Liberty , we do not though live in a liberty society we live in a welfare society . Given the fact that we live in a welfare society and the likelihood of that ever changing without economic collapse is nil , is there a legitimate reason that the US welfare nation allows immigration at all ? I am aware of no reasons .

We we could use more Vikings, they don't use welfare.

 

[otherone]

Here is a tip, look at previous actions and belief systems to predict future actions and protect accordingly.

Here is a tip, you should credit Antifa when you quote them directly.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We we could use more Vikings, they don't use welfare.

Their descendants do, let me know when you get your jet converted to a time machine to bring some freedom loving vikings from the past.

Try cruising at 88mph through a lightning storm.

 

[Danke]

Try cruising at 88mph through a lightning storm.

Last time I did that it was much faster. I was blinded temporarily but I ended up only a couple seconds into the future.

 

[oyarde]

Last time I did that it was much faster. I was blinded temporarily but I ended up only a couple seconds into the future.

I can foretell the future for you for payment up front of 6 silver eagles .

 

[Danke]

I can foretell the future for you for payment up front of 6 silver eagles .

Let me guess. I am at the local watering hole close to my cabin up north. I over hear an Injuns talking as one compliments his neighbor on the nice motor he recently got for his boat. He says in reply, I just "picked it up." "Good find" says the other Injun.

suspiciously it looks just like the one that was taken off of my property recently.

 

[oyarde]

Let me guess. I am at the local watering hole close to my cabin up north. I over hear an Injuns talking as one compliments his neighbor on the nice motor he recently got for his boat. He says in reply, I just "picked it up." "Good find" says the other Injun.

suspiciously it looks just like the one that was taken off of my property recently.

I am insulted .I am a Great Sagamore , I already have a boat .

 

[Ender]

Like Ender maybe AZjoe is another Muslim. See posting pattern.

It is YOU who have refused to discuss my answers and when I repost them it is YOU who calls names. You have been calling me a Muslim for a year now while you continually deny it. You have now gone too far calling a good man like [MENTION=64691]AZJoe[/MENTION] names and I am calling you on it.

YOU are the perfect example of your name-calling #8 and are a HYP.O.CRITE.

 

[kahless]

It is YOU who have refused to discuss my answers and when I repost them it is YOU who calls names. You have been calling me a Muslim for a year now while you continually deny it. You have now gone too far calling a good man like [MENTION=64691]AZJoe[/MENTION] names and I am calling you on it.

YOU are the perfect example of your name-calling #8 and are a HYP.O.CRITE.

I have repeatedly and it always goes as I describe below.

Posting pattern of RPF Muslim activists:

1. They always focus on blaming US intervention 100% of the time as the cause of Islamic terrorism without recognizing or room for recognizing the following issues below.

2. No recognition that the past cannot be undone and for risk management based on what they believe are past wrongs the US has committed. They always re-direct the conversation back to #1.

3. Absolutely no concern for radical Islam and jihadist immigration or retribution from what they believe from #1. They refocus the conversation back on #1.

4. No mention or concern for US victims or potential US victims. When it is brought up they always go right back to #1 and/or the victims of #1.

5. No concern over a statist authoritarian belief system masquerading as a religion and in some cases they make a moral equivalence to modern Christianity for which there is no Christian terrorism on the scale of radical Islam. Conversation is redirected back to #1.

6. Little to no concern of growing the welfare state due to immigration. Conversation is refocused back to #1.

7. No recognition that mass immigration of peoples with opposing ideology will make individual liberty or any form of living in a libertarian like society impossible in our life time. They refocus the conversation back on #1.

8. If someone points out that #1 is not entirely the issue and raises issues 2 to 7, they are immediately slammed as full of "hate", fearful, a Trump supporter as an epithet , called a Neocon, a Nazi or anti-semite, a hypocrite, demeaned in some manner, or some other personal attack or falsely accused of a personal attack and are hit with negative reps.

9. When confronted with this list they claim to have addressed these points when they have not and then they redirect the conversation back to #8 or #1. They even post their own fake number list that does not reflect these points made above which is all about foreign intervention, #1 again. While again, never addressing the list above.

No reasonable individual would discuss this issue in this manner unless they are a Muslim political activist. Therefore I asked if you are Muslim and since you never denied the claim or this list it became a belief. So referring to you and AZJoe as Muslims is not an attack but rather a belief.

You are on #8 and #9 right now.

btw - thx for the name calling update, I added "hypocrite" to #8.

 

[AZJoe]

Like Ender maybe AZjoe is another Muslim. See posting pattern.

And there you have it. Resorting to feeble minded logical fallacy of the ad hominem (false and delusional based no less) is the last refuge of weak minded when their position has no substance.
It is akin to WaPo accusing Dr. Paul, and anyone else, of being a "Russian agent" if they don't agree with lies and propaganda.

So in the mind of Kahless, one who rejects the collectivist mindset and instead responds with facts and logic and consistently promotes peace and prosperity, individualism, individual rights, anti-tax, anti-statist, pro-liberty, pro-free market, freedom of choice, freedom of association, self-ownership, property rights, individual self defense, non-aggression principal, must be Muslim.
This is not reason. Such comments are irrational, illogical, dishonest, suggesting emotional based form of psychosis.

 

[AuH20]

If we lived in the 1880s with no entrenched bureaucracy tentacles in play, I'd probably reconsider my muslim ban perspective. But it comes down to a 'don't feed the animals' moral hazard that Dr. Paul has extensively discussed.