A Muslim Ban Is Logical, Moral, And Even Libertarian
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otherone
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Sure. If it's a "Libertarian Ban" or "Libertarian Curfew". It has the word "Libertarian" right in it.
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In 2017, it is. We live in the most liberty hostile period in American History. The federal government is hellbent on replacing the current citizenry with malleable replacements.
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The current citizenry isn't malleable? Half of them are terrified by Climate Change, the other half by Muslims. It's a win-win for Washington.
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Not malleable enough for their liking. The oligarchs want to ramrod their agenda and the current populace has resisted to a degree. If they bring in the Muslims and Hispanics in large numbers, they could rapidly implement the entire agenda, from gun banning to automatic cars. The whole enchilada could proceed within a very short time period. The desperate dirt people from the nether regions of the world can be bought extremely cheap, in comparison to the spoiled Western counterparts, who have been brought up on the lies of Madison Avenue and who also can remember recent history when the quality of life was superior.
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So... You didn't really want an answer, then??
Either live under "their" form of authoritarianism or yours? Yeah, I'll keep advocating for individual liberty, thanks.
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The state relies on the population being at odds with each other. It's pretty basic political science. A united people would be a threat to the power structure.
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So... You didn't really want an answer, then??
Either live under "their" form of authoritarianism or yours? Yeah, I'll keep advocating for individual liberty, thanks.
Which bridge do you live under?
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So... You didn't really want an answer, then??
Either live under "their" form of authoritarianism or yours? Yeah, I'll keep advocating for individual liberty, thanks.
But Kahless's has funnel cake instead of falafel.
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So... You didn't really want an answer, then??
Either live under "their" form of authoritarianism or yours? Yeah, I'll keep advocating for individual liberty, thanks.
What are you talking about, I responded point by point a few posts above yours, no three dots in any post.
https://1.community.forum/POSTs
Ultimately I see your position as a direct assault on individual liberty in the US since you have no recognition that mass immigration of peoples with opposing ideology will make individual liberty or any form of living in a libertarian like society impossible in our life time.
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otherone
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What are you advocating? Swinging dicks in public?
Is that what freedom means to you?
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They sure are, even the anarchists want to ban tyrants (or any government at all).
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If you understand the current power dynamics in America, the low hanging fruit seems to have allied with mid hanging fruits with big pockets. Kushner and Ivanka would not let Trump move too far away from democrats/AIPAC type groups that oppose Islamic refugees admission bans.
Jewish groups pan Trump for signing refugee ban on Holocaust Remembrance Day
By Laura Koran, CNN
January 28, 2017
- The action temporarily blocks entry to citizens from 7 majority-Muslim nations
- One of its most vocal critics is former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
Washington (CNN)Many organizations that advocate for refugees slammed President Donald Trump's executive action Friday imposing "extreme vetting" on those fleeing to America, among them Jewish groups that took particular exception to the day on which he signed it: Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Muslims-Jews seem to have allied for common interest perhaps, you really think Trump can move against such powerful interests?
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There are a lot of Zippy's here. Some are paid. Some aren't.
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I never thought so but I guess banning the Liberty of others to grant mine is something I can learn to live with . If my state banned Illinois from entry or charged a toll and required they return to the craphole they came from I could live with it .
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If you are against a ban I guess you can say you stayed true to some textbook definition of left libertarianism. All the while by doing so moving further away from the ability to experience it in real life. If you support the ban a great many people move closer to experiencing liberty, Paleolibertarianism. I take the later.
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