A message from Trevor Lyman

[Crickett]

Not A Money Bomb! A Supporter Bomb

No response to my point about Dr. Paul giving him credit??? Was Dr. Paul "flat out stupid" for NAMING HIM ON NATIONAL TV AS THE ONE WHO ORGANIZED THIS???? Did the same people who came after lil ol me for using the wrong phrase go after Dr. Paul for giving him the credit? I think not.

You people need to get over yourselves. LOL!

THIS time it is not about a MONEY bomb. Did alot of you READ his post? He wants to do a "supporter" bomb. He wants us to be able to show HOW MANY PEOPLE IN ONE DAY supported RP with a token donation. For crying out loud, people...SOMEONE had to pick a day instead of bickering about it for a week. He picked one. Now it is UP TO US to USE that day to show we support RP..
I sure am in, but I wish he would post projected totals so that we can see how many are actually supporting.

THIS IS NOT about raising money (tho that would be great). It is about showing the MSM how many people are IN this, and COMITTED. RE READ.

Parade thing? Who cares? Hardly anyone in my town supports RP (and I am trying by myself to change that a bit). Any day is a good day to show support. MLK day is as good as any when off work to do a parade, OR NOT. Of course, if we did do it in 100 cities, it may make the MSM NEWS.

 

[Mckarnin]

This November 5th
RonPaulFriday.com - Be the message!

Posted: 07 Jan 2008 10:45 AM CST



http://www.RonPaulFriday.com
Be the message!
It’s great to wear a Ron Paul T-shirt to help spread the word. What would happen if tens or even hundreds of thousands of Ron Paul supporters wore their shirts on the same day?

Once a week, every friday, we’ll join together and wear our shirts, hats and buttons on the same day. Fight the polls, show our strength and spread the word more effectively than ever before by acting together and becoming the message.

(btw- if you were having troubles getting to http://www.FreeAtLast2008.com last night the issues have been fixed)


Over 4,000 sign ups in 2 days - RonPaulMarch.com

Posted: 06 Jan 2008 12:06 PM CST



Great news- signs ups for the mass donation day at FreeAtLast2008.com are coming in rapidly.. we’ve had over 4,000 in just two days!

Because it’s so important to fight the polls and show our numbers I’ve partnered up with Greg over at RonPaulMarch.com. He’s provided a great system to sign up for marches in your town or city AND it’s co-ordinated with the MeetUp system.

Click the banner below and sign up to pledge your participation in our nation wide march event.



As we all know the media didn’t pay as much attention to our fund raising record of “6 million in one day” as we would have liked. It’s time for a change in strategy. Hundreds of thousands of donors in one day will stun the political status quo, boost moral and continue to draw attention to our message. The pledge is only $10 (or more) so we can all participate while raising large amounts of money. It’s a win, win for us all.

We can add yet another win by compounding our impact with a co-ordinated march. MLK day is a national holiday so we all have the day off and can participate. It’s also symbolic, Martin Luther King brought about change in Washington through marches and protests, and so will we. It’s a proven strategy and we should do what works and take back our country. We only have one chance. Now is the time.

Please pledge to participate in the mass donation day and the march and please ask everyone you know to do the same.

Pledged and Pledged.

 

[Deborah K]

WE SHOULD NOT MARCH IN ANY MLK PARADE CARRYING ANYTHING OR WEARING ANYTHING OTHER THAN MLK-promoting ITEMS, PERIOD, EVER!

To do anything otherwise would be a HORRIBLE mistake.

Why? Just curious.

Truth is, while I think it's as good as any other day, I don't really care when we march just as long as it's soon because we're running out of time.

 

[Mckarnin]

can somebody get a hold of trevor and ask why he thinks 21st is better. Also, why so late? don't we need 23 million by Jan 25rd?? What if we are only able to raise $6-$7 again on Jan 21? where do we get rest of $11-$14 million by Jan 25th??

The whole point of the MLK thing is to be an alternate way of "voting" for Ron Pail with $10. It is meant to be an amount that anyone can afford that will register as one more donor on that day and thus a symbolic "vote" for Ron Paul. If people want to give more fine but this isn't an attempt at a huge $$ haul so much as a huge haul when it comes to the number of people who gave the money. You can get friends and family who think they will vote for Ron Paul to "vote" with $10 on that day to help show the media and everyone how many people truly support Dr. Paul.

 

[Zack]

So we shouldn't give him any credit for this??? What difference does it make to any of you anyway if I want to give him credit for it? Even Ron Paul credits him. I've seen him do so multiple times on TV!!! Have those of you with your snide remarks corrected Ron Paul's apparent mistake??!!??

WTF is everybody's issue with this???? This is nuts!! I thought Paul's people were the cream of the crop. This is sooooo petty. Unbelievable.

Well, if RP made a post saying that on these forums... yeah, I think people would correct the mistake. Not in an emotional or petty way, but yeah.

If we were to actually be so juvenile as to attempt to give organizational credit to a specific individual for an event that doesn't fit into those terms, then we nullify the meaning of the event. It gives the media the fictional story of a person who found a clever way to raise money instead of a people who cried for freedom. It's funny: The more romantic version is the correct version and the more realistic story is the incorrect version of events. It hurts us (at least slightly) that the media has largely gone with the incorrect version. So hopefully that answers your question as to what people's "issue" is with it.

Trevor helped promote the idea and made a website which was a nice place to send people to so they could watch a couple youtube videos and sign up for a mailing list to be reminded when the day was there. If you want to assign an extra level of influence on him because of that, then fine. But you should then probably know that there were probably between 2-3 other people (just that I can think of) who had even more influence on the total outcome. His name was attached to the ownership of the most linked to website domain and the media therefore thought he was an/the "orginizer".

None of this is something to get hung up on or dramatic about, but it does relate to truthfulness and, at least slightly, to the future success of the campaign. As for the MLK/Ben issue, I like the idea of massive small donors that MLK is going with, but I don't think it will be successful, even by that standard. Partly, because people seem to like the 17th much much much more than MLK day. I just hope all the days are as successful as can be.

 

[libertyguy]

Hey Trevor has done some great things. I don't mind someone like Trevor taking the reins and using their resources to get us all fired up again. I have heard him interviewed several times and he does not take credit for the original money bomb idea nor does he come out with a lot of bravado. He is a nice guy working to do a great thing. COME ON FOLKS...GET ON BOARD!!! Not everyone can be a leader. Some things work well with democracy and other things need to have representative leadership. Trevor is one of those leaders!

All Trevor here too! You go man!

 

[Thunderbolt]

I respect Trevor Lyman, but I don't understand why he gets to use his email list to pick freeatlast2008 as the moneybomb day. It seems it should have been discussed amongst everyone in the forums before they picked an official day. I think this communication error is whats causing the moneybomb days to be unsuccessful so far.

Well, Trevor Lyman shouldn't be able to use that list. You are absolutely right. What he is doing is technically spam (when people signed up, it was contractually only to receive messages about the tea party), illegal and certainly immoral. His behavior is selfish and he is hurting this campaign. Oh, I know most people here think that he is a God and can do no wrong, but if you look at his actions he is causing disruption between the grassroots just when we need to be together.

No one person "owns" the grassroots. That email list has suddenly allowed Trevor Lyman to do whatever he likes no matter how much the rest of us don't like it. Is that what we are about?

Sadly, this young man has refused to listen to anyone and continues to go forward and hurt us all no matter how much is said to him. He has a whole group of people on this forum that he has either hired, or work together in some way to attack anyone who dares to say a word against him and he is manipulating the entire grassroots. In fact, he reminds me of George Bush.

I am sick of it. I don't know how to stop him. He refuses to listen to anyone and has gone completely rogue. Fracturing the grassroots is not useful.

 

[nc4rp]

Paul/Lyman 08!!

 

[twdahm]

Paul/Lyman 08!!

your an idiot

 

[twdahm]

Well, Trevor Lyman shouldn't be able to use that list. You are absolutely right. What he is doing is technically spam (when people signed up, it was contractually only to receive messages about the tea party), illegal and certainly immoral. His behavior is selfish and he is hurting this campaign. Oh, I know most people here think that he is a God and can do no wrong, but if you look at his actions he is causing disruption between the grassroots just when we need to be together.

No one person "owns" the grassroots. That email list has suddenly allowed Trevor Lyman to do whatever he likes no matter how much the rest of us don't like it. Is that what we are about?

Sadly, this young man has refused to listen to anyone and continues to go forward and hurt us all no matter how much is said to him. He has a whole group of people on this forum that he has either hired, or work together in some way to attack anyone who dares to say a word against him and he is manipulating the entire grassroots. In fact, he reminds me of George Bush.

I am sick of it. I don't know how to stop him. He refuses to listen to anyone and has gone completely rogue. Fracturing the grassroots is not useful.

Woot Woot! Ive been sayng it for months but no one listens here they want their little God! Trevor is an idiot spending all thier money living it up flying around in a blimp

 

[Mckarnin]

Woot Woot! Ive been sayng it for months but no one listens here they want their little God! Trevor is an idiot spending all thier money living it up flying around in a blimp

What? He hasn't been with the blimp for a week now. Even when he was with the blimp he was usually on the ground in a car so he could keep internet up and make phone calls to work on projects. But now he's in NH working with Vijay/Live Free or Die and working on promoting/fundraising for the blimp remotely.

 

[twdahm]

What? He hasn't been with the blimp for a week now. Even when he was with the blimp he was usually on the ground in a car so he could keep internet up and make phone calls to work on projects. But now he's in NH working with Vijay/Live Free or Die and working on promoting/fundraising for the blimp remotely.

yep using you money....

 

[Deborah K]

...... but if you look at his actions he is causing disruption between the grassroots just when we need to be together.

What "actions" of his are causing disruption? The fact that there is a disagreement about whether or not to give him any credit???

 

[Mckarnin]

yep using you money....

More like using HIS money. At this point I think he is up to 10k out of pocket and no pay yet.