A message from Trevor Lyman

Again I say, you are parsing words and getting butt hurt over it!!! Every single one of you knows EXACTLY WHAT THE HELL I MEANT! You seem to be looking for reasons to back-bite. How sick is that?
 
Question_Authority said:
I am happy Trevor is using that database to get another effort going. Who else has access to a database of thousands of ron paul donors? We have to capitalize on that and parlay it into the next event.

It's just basic marketing. Why start from scratch? Who cares if he consulted with us? Anyone can start any event at any time. It's a free country! Jesus!
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Exactly, but not all of us have to get in line. Many of us feel the date is controversial, taking away from the true meaning of MLK day, MLK's family might sue, and too late to raise money. There aren't even any good youtubes up for this day. The supporters of MLK day have done a bad job of supporting it.
 
can somebody get a hold of trevor and ask why he thinks 21st is better. Also, why so late? don't we need 23 million by Jan 25rd?? What if we are only able to raise $6-$7 again on Jan 21? where do we get rest of $11-$14 million by Jan 25th??
 
I support Mr. Lyman's decision - he knows how to promote and establish money bombs and events.
 
szczebrzeszyn said:
I've already did. Trevor made the website, grassroots made the rest (while the whole idea came from some individuals - don't remember the names now). You need to find your hero somewhere else, sorry.
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Typical petty BS. Refusing to give the man any credit. Whatever. Don't march. Don't participate in anything he organizes. And by all means - MAKE DAMNED SURE YOU DISMISS ANY GOOD HE DOES FOR RON PAUL!!

ROFL!!!
 
Deborah K said:
Again I say, you are parsing words and getting butt hurt over it!!! Every single one of you knows EXACTLY WHAT THE HELL I MEANT! You seem to be looking for reasons to back-bite. How sick is that?
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We aren't mind readers. We only know what you say, which is the same thing that many clueless media outlets said, suggesting in one way or the other that Mr. Lyman was this soooper geeeenius who was responsible for Nov. 5.

Well, a lot of us have a problem with that spin, because it completely misses the story of how our grassroots works. I'm not blaming Trevor for that spin, but it's just annoying to hear it repeated here.
 
aravoth said:
Nov 5th wasn't His idea. The website was, which was promoted by everyone and thier mother on the internet. He'd tell you the same thing if you asked him.
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So we shouldn't give him any credit for this??? What difference does it make to any of you anyway if I want to give him credit for it? Even Ron Paul credits him. I've seen him do so multiple times on TV!!! Have those of you with your snide remarks corrected Ron Paul's apparent mistake??!!??

WTF is everybody's issue with this???? This is nuts!! I thought Paul's people were the cream of the crop. This is sooooo petty. Unbelievable.
 
LFOD said:
We aren't mind readers. We only know what you say, which is the same thing that many clueless media outlets said, suggesting in one way or the other that Mr. Lyman was this soooper geeeenius who was responsible for Nov. 5.

Well, a lot of us have a problem with that spin, because it completely misses the story of how our grassroots works. I'm not blaming Trevor for that spin, but it's just annoying to hear it repeated here.
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Take it up with Dr. Paul as well then!!! Because he has credited him too!
 
FWIW .......
Jan 17th is also Benjamin Franklin's ( a founding father ) birthday. You know the face on the $100 bill ( hint, hint ). Maybe we could march for Ben. :)
 
Deborah K said:
So we shouldn't give him any credit for this??? What difference does it make to any of you anyway if I want to give him credit for it? Even Ron Paul credits him. I've seen him do so multiple times on TV!!! Have those of you with your snide remarks corrected Ron Paul's apparent mistake??!!??

WTF is everybody's issue with this???? This is nuts!! I thought Paul's people were the cream of the crop. This is sooooo petty. Unbelievable.
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Nothing is petty about what I said. I couldn't care less about money bombs. I didn't come up with any of them, and I didn't promote any of them either. A lot of people did a lot of work to promote both money bombs, Saying things like, "he single handedly raised 4.2 million", is flat out stupid. It was made possible by all the Youtube videos, the people that called radio stations and promoted it. Especially on Coast to Coast AM, Alex Jones doing an Hour long segment on it. No one man can take credit for any of that.

Trevor Lyman is a good guy, and has great ideas, No one here is short changing what he does. I think you may just be over looking alot of the hard work that others did on those projects, and the reason you might be getting static for what your saying is because most of them came out of this forum. Just my opinion.
 
aravoth said:
Nothing is petty about what I said. I couldn't care less about money bombs. I didn't come up with any of them, and I didn't promote any of them either. A lot of people did a lot of work to promote both money bombs, Saying things like, "he single handedly raised 4.2 million", is flat out stupid. It was made possible by all the Youtube videos, the people that called radio stations and promoted it. Especially on Coast to Coast AM, Alex Jones doing an Hour long segment on it. No one man can take credit for any of that.

Trevor Lyman is a good guy, and has great ideas, No one here is short changing what he does. I think you may just be over looking alot of the hard work that others did on those projects, and the reason you might be getting static for what your saying is because most of them came out of this forum. Just my opinion.
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No response to my point about Dr. Paul giving him credit??? Was Dr. Paul "flat out stupid" for NAMING HIM ON NATIONAL TV AS THE ONE WHO ORGANIZED THIS???? Did the same people who came after lil ol me for using the wrong phrase go after Dr. Paul for giving him the credit? I think not.

You people need to get over yourselves. LOL!
 
Deborah K said:
No response to my point about Dr. Paul giving him credit??? Was Dr. Paul "flat out stupid" for NAMING HIM ON NATIONAL TV AS THE ONE WHO ORGANIZED THIS???? Did the same people who came after lil ol me for using the wrong phrase go after Dr. Paul for giving him the credit? I think not.

You people need to get over yourselves. LOL!
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OK, you can take me out of your egotistical banter. Because I don't give a shit. Ron Paul was asked by the media if he had thanked him for it. And he responded. No Dr. Paul is not stupid, but your posts are.

Call Trevor Lyman, ask him if it was his idea. He said it wasn't on national TV. Get over it, jesus.
 
Electric Church said:
anyway back to the purpose of this thread....
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Thank you.

Anyway, I disagree with those who think MLK is not a good day to march. I think it shows unity and I partly agree with the person who wrote that we should join MLK marchers, but instead, I think we should organize our own marches and then make sure to show tribute to MLK. Aligning with his message of peaceful protest, etc. will have an impact.

No matter what we do, the media is going to spin it so badly that we're all going to need a heavy dose of dramamine. We can't let that interfere with the directive. If the founders had operated out of "what if...what if..." we'd all be speaking with English accents. We must not operate out of fear.

If we are peaceful, and show class and respect for the day, our message will prevail. MLK's family doesn't own the day. Blacks don't own that day. By marching on that day, it might help dispel the ridiculous rumors about racism.

I like the idea (obviously). I hope we can make this work because as I've mentioned before, we have to find a way to make Ron Paul known to those who rely upon the media for their presidential campaign coverage.
 
WE SHOULD NOT MARCH IN ANY MLK PARADE CARRYING ANYTHING OR WEARING ANYTHING OTHER THAN MLK-promoting ITEMS, PERIOD, EVER!

To do anything otherwise would be a HORRIBLE mistake.
 
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