A Message from Ron - No 3P Run, we will continue the fight..

[Freemason]

No just thought the name sounded cool lol

 

[colecrowe]

This is what loyalty to the GOP and believing in "the Revolution" and a 1/435th part of the House means to me:

This is just the last few months, just since the wonderful surge started working so well:

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

02/08/08NAME NOT RELEASED YETPendingHostile - hostile fire - explosionAt-Tamim province 02/08/08NAME NOT RELEASED YETPendingHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (northwest of) 02/08/08NAME NOT RELEASED YETPendingHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (northwest of) 02/08/08NAME NOT RELEASED YETPendingHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (northwest of) 02/08/08NAME NOT RELEASED YETPendingHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (northwest of) 02/06/08Skelton, Bradley J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (western part) 02/05/08Van Orman, Timothy R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMahmudiyah (died in Balad) 02/05/08Osmolski, John C.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMahmudiyah (died in Balad) 02/05/08Baez, Miguel A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMahmudiyah 02/05/08Alicearivera, RafaelDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - drowningTallil 02/04/08West, Christopher J. DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMuqdadiyah (Died in Balad) 02/04/08Hardy, Nathan H.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireNot reported yet 02/04/08Koch, Michael E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireNot reported yet 02/02/08Barrett, Chad A.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileMosul 01/31/08Straughter, Matthew F.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - RPG attackBaghdad 01/31/08Schultz, David E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - indirect fireScania 01/31/08Norman, Michael A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad 01/28/08Craig, James E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/28/08Jeffries, Gary W.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/28/08Marshall, Evan A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/28/08Meyer, Brandon A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/28/08Young, Joshua A. R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/27/08Miller, Mikeal W.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackNational Naval Medical Center, Bethesda 01/27/08Rogers, Alan G.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (northeastern part) 01/26/08Wilson, Robert J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad 01/25/08Crookston, Duncan CharlesDoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBrooke Army Med Center, TX 01/25/08Birkman, Tracy ReneeDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - injuryOwaset 01/22/08Sturdivant, Michael R.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentKirkuk 01/19/08Whiting, Justin R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMosul 01/19/08Gluff, James M.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fireAl Anbar Province 01/19/08Burress, Richard B.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackArab Jabour 01/19/08Schoolcraft III, Jon M.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTaji 01/16/08Kimme, Danny L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fire, grenadeBalad 01/16/08Sharrett II, David H.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fire, grenadeBalad 01/16/08Sigsbee, John P.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fire, grenadeBalad (died in Pallouata) 01/12/08Lloyd, Keith E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IEDTall Afar 01/11/08Christensen Jr., Curtis A.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileAl Anbar Province 01/09/08Davis, Todd E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08Gaul, Sean M.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08Sanders, Christopher A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08Pionk, Matthew I.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08Dozier, Jonathan KilianDoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08McBride, Zachary W.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (house borne)Sinsil 01/09/08Hart, David J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSamarra (died in Balad) 01/09/08Merlo, Ivan E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSamarra 01/09/08Pannier, Phillip J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSamarra 01/07/08Hanson, Timothy R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSalman Pak 01/06/08Gudridge, James D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (southern part) 01/05/08Lemke, Jason F.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackIbrahim Al Adham 01/04/08Brown, Menelek M.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - drowningArabian Gulf 01/03/08Olmsted, Andrew J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSadiyah 01/03/08Casey, Thomas J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireSadiyah 01/02/08Maseth, Ryan D.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileBaghdad 01/02/08Anderson, Joshua R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackKamasia 12/31/07Lacerna, Reno S.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - illnessQayyarah 12/31/07Jeffries, Victor W.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileKuwait 12/30/07Berlin Jr., Joseph R.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - injuryBaghdad 12/26/07Inman, Rowdy J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireMosul 12/26/07Portell, Benjamin B.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireMosul 12/25/07Tutten, Bryan J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBalad 12/25/07Neesley, Peter C.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - unspecified causeBaghdad 12/21/07Howell, George J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackRiyadh (near Hawijah) 12/20/07Ray, Jeremy E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - suicide bomberKanaan 12/17/07McDaniel, Juctin R. P.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - injuryTaji (Camp Taji) 12/15/07Pratt, Austin D.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileBaghdad (Died in Balad) 12/14/07Lowery, Jonathan A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireMosul 12/13/07Smith, Daren A.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileBaghdad 12/13/07Kelsey, Samuel E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTunis 12/13/07Naylor, Brynn J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireBaghdad (southern part) 12/11/07Carter, Mark T.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fireIraq - details not released 12/10/07Lahmann, Johnathan A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack (suicide vehicBaiji 12/09/07Pickering, Randy W.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileBaghdad 12/05/07Snyder, Adam P.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBayji (died in Balad) 12/04/07Hernandez, Eric J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBayji 12/04/07White, Dewayne L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBayji 12/03/07Dayton, KyleDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentAshwah 12/01/07Reece, Matthew K.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (eastern part) 11/30/07Emery, Blair WilliamDoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaqubah 11/28/07Tobiason, John J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireBaghdad 11/28/07Roberts, Allen C.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentAl Asad 11/27/07Cortes, Isaac T.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackAmerli 11/27/07Garrison, Benjamin J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackAmerli 11/22/07Martin, Jonathon L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackRegensburg, Germany 11/21/07Henley Jr., Melvin L.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileBaghdad (Camp Stryker) 11/20/07Paredez Jr., Alfred G.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad (eastern part) 11/19/07Ayala, AlejandroDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentKuwait 11/18/07Ferrero, Marius L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - suicide bomberBa'qubah 11/18/07Lee, Jason T.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - suicide bomberBa'qubah (died in Balad) 11/18/07Nelson, Christopher J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - suicide bomberBa'qubah 11/16/07Ganczewski, Steven C.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad 11/16/07Lewis, Mason L.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - accidentBaghdad 11/14/07Burks, Peter H.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad 11/14/07Banks, Derek R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackSan Antonio, Texas 11/14/07Booker, Kenneth R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMukhisa 11/13/07Mason, Casey P.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireMosul (near) 11/13/07Kruse, Christopher R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMukhisa 11/13/07Schmidt, Peter W.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackMukhisa 11/12/07Sietsema, AshleyDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentKuwait City 11/12/07Vanek, Joseph M.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms fireBaghdad 11/09/07Franklin, Jermaine D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED, grenadesJisr Naft 11/07/07Tiffner, Benjamin D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackBaghdad 11/07/07Tumanuvao, LuiDoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackArab Jabour 11/06/07Ndururi, Christine M.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - illnessCamp Arifjan 11/05/07Shaw, Daniel J.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileTaji 11/05/07Bewley, Kevin R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackSalah Ad Din Province 11/05/07Davis, Carletta S.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTal Al-Dahab 11/05/07Linde, John D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTal Al-Dahab 11/05/07Stenroos, Derek T.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTal Al-Dahab 11/05/07Muller, Adam J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attackTal Al-Dahab 11/03/07Covert Jr., Dwane A.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - explosionAl Sahra

 

[all J's in IL for RP]

I haven't made up my mind yet. I said I was thinking Libertarian, but I will take a few days to sort out my feelings on the matter. Time for another drink right now though.

Have a few beers, shed a tear if you must, and get a good nights rest. But remember in the morning that next election cycle, you and your friends could be in the position to be endorsing, hosting and promoting a Ron Paul republican from within the party structure, instead of being on the outside looking in and damning the injustice of it all.

 

[nbruno322]

you need to realize that with the electoral system he would need to be able to win a state outright to get any electoral votes, besides LA he has not been able to do this in any of the primaries. I believe the only way to 3rd party run is feasible is if its McCain/Hillary, he would have no chance with Obama in there.

 

[nightlight]

Yeah I've been wondering if something like this would be how it would go for some time now as well. This thing reads like a solemn concession speech, and as someone else pointed out, no calls for donations.

Read again what the man said:

1. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get.

2. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always.

3. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties.

 

[Redcard]

[Redacted by Moderator]

Now.. Ron Paul is a member of the GOP. Ron Paul is trying to change the GOP. Ron Paul is going for his GOP seat in GOP controlled Texas.

 

[CUnknown]

I think we shouldn't write in Ron Paul's name in the general election if he's not running. We should support the Libertarian party, they hold essentially the same beliefs as Dr. Paul himself. This Revolution isn't about one man, but the message.

We can be a huge boost to the Lib. party's voting base. We should stick together and make a difference where it can be felt the most strongly.

 

[Lord Xar]

I do have to laugh. I have identified a few trolls, lamenting with defeatist attitude.. ahhaha.

RON CLEARLY states "I AM NOT GIVING UP!". He does say with Romney out, convention is almost zero - BUT ROMNEY IS NOT OUT, he suspended his campaign. there is REASON FOR THAT.

Also, Ron does have an obligation to his constituents, thus his concurrent congressional bid IF the nomination does not work out.

What is the deal.

He says he is making things tighter and leaner, and he says he is moving on and he says UPWARD AND ONWARD!!!

GUYS. IF there is a GHOST OF A CHANCE, YOU GONNA TAKE IT!!!

HOW MANY OF YOU PLAY THE GOTDAYUM LOTTERY and THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!

So, ANTE UP. GET FOCUSED and lets do this.

WHAT IF RON WINS WASHINGTON? Or places second? What if in LA, we Place first or second.. MOMENTUM!!!!

You never know what tomorrow brings if you look towards it with hope and an obligation for opportunity. Right? We sure know what it will bring if we give up.

ONWARD AND UPWARD!!

 

[LAgirl]

What Will McCain Do Now?
[SIZE=-1]Yahoo! News - 18 hours ago[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" is the mindless motto of the McCain foreign policy.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=...96&cid=1130008903&sig2=km4qkeJ4nHjFgK_K4YQN8w
[/SIZE]

I hear you, Cole. Don't give up. It's not over. RP's not done yet.

We don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes, or why certain decisions are being made. But as you of all people must know, it's always darkest before the dawn.

Keep the faith. And stand strong. This is our mission.

 

[Eponym_mi]

FUCK the GOP!!!!!

I share this sentiment. However, if we do not participate in the political process, I believe we will have accomplished NOTHING. I will continue our fight in the GOP (for now).

Personally, I believe all of the existing parties are dysfunctional in some manner or another, either organizationally or in their lack of sound princples. This angers me to no end, and I hope that I am not alone.

In any case, I'd like to encourage everyone to direct their anger toward influencing and participating in whatever organization they believe will be most effective in promoting an agenda of small, constitutional, non-interventionist, and peaceful goverment. We need not agree on what organization that may be.

As Ron Paul has suggested repeatedly throughout his campaign, its the message that matters...not the messenger. Keep fighting for our message and do not return to a state of apathy!

 

[Broadlighter]

In a revolution, you have to pick and choose your own battles. The way to win it is to survive it. We beat the Brits simply because we were willing to keep fighting. That's how we'll have to win this one and that means changing course.

I'm in.

Liberty forever!

 

[pacelli]

http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/

Moneybombing congress now.

 

[hillertexas]

I do have to laugh. I have identified a few trolls, lamenting with defeatist attitude.. ahhaha.

RON CLEARLY states "I AM NOT GIVING UP!". He does say with Romney out, convention is almost zero - BUT ROMNEY IS NOT OUT, he suspended his campaign. there is REASON FOR THAT.

Also, Ron does have an obligation to his constituents, thus his concurrent congressional bid IF the nomination does not work out.

What is the deal.

He says he is making things tighter and leaner, and he says he is moving on and he says UPWARD AND ONWARD!!!

GUYS. IF there is a GHOST OF A CHANCE, YOU GONNA TAKE IT!!!

HOW MANY OF YOU PLAY THE GOTDAYUM LOTTERY and THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!

So, ANTE UP. GET FOCUSED and lets do this.

WHAT IF RON WINS WASHINGTON? Or places second? What if in LA, we Place first or second.. MOMENTUM!!!!

You never know what tomorrow brings if you look towards it with hope and an obligation for opportunity. Right? We sure know what it will bring if we give up.

ONWARD AND UPWARD!!

+1

 

[colecrowe]

We get it, Crow.

You don't like the GOP. Reported for spam.

Now.. Ron Paul is a member of the GOP. Ron Paul is trying to change the GOP. Ron Paul is going for his GOP seat in GOP controlled Texas.

Whatever. I am gone. I will still support Dr. Paul with money, calls, and canvassing, etc. But I sure hope he runs iNDY if that seems like the best thing to do after March 4th.

I will write him a letter, an email, and call (each of those) every day nicely telling him how much I (and everyone I know) hopes he will go iNDY and save this country.

Goodbye (I'm just saying that because I'll probably be banned--but I don't care). You all act like you love the GOP more than this country.

You want me to put up, well then here (this is besides the over 300 cold calls and 200 houses I've canvassed, plus more crap--this doesn't count the $100 for the MLK money bomb, the $51 for the Anniversary money bomb, the 250 for the danged blimp, the 250 for something else I don't even remember now, plus 100 here and another 100 there, plus about 75 for my meetup collection baskets!):


http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=crowe&fname=justin&search=Search
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Ron Paul
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Army Spouse


Here's my grandpa-in-law:

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Ron Paul
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Minden NV
Here's my father in law:

Donor Contribution Address
Charles Worman

Charles Worman Veteran
Veteran Army National Guard
Updated
Q4/2007
Ron Paul
$201
1401 DOWNS DR
Minden NV

My dad's doesn't show up, even though he gave 100.

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BUT

I admit, and am happy to do so: There is no reason to think we need to go iNDY until we see what happens between now and March 4th. He MIGHT start stomping McCain based on low voter turnout due to apathy since the media has 110% called it for McCain, and based on how horrible a choice McCain is and how much he is getting lambasted in on the air and in print, and at the 'watercooler'. Especially as Iraq of course continues blowing up and the economy gets worse. Here is my proof:

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But after March 4th...

I'm out if in a month's time he continues to win 0 states and still has less than 15% support and yet refuses to go iNDY (I'll still write him in and spread the word, make calls, etc., but I probably won't donate anymore, and I'll be very sad).

Well, I can safely say...if donations dry up....Paul will be forced to call it quits, so please continue to DONATE.

http://www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com/

my dad said he'd donate another 500 to Paul (IF he announces 3rd party) (he donated 200 on Dec. 16th--but that was when it seemed like he REALLY could maybe, possibly win the Nom. I would donate 500 the day he declares (even though it will hurt financially), whereas I can't afford to give anymore (I gave just over a 1,100 in Q4 to the cause--so shut up) for his Republican run; and gramps would probably wager another 1776.00

The 2nd and 3rd tier, broader-base of supporters aren't (many or most of them) going to donate MORE--if they already have once--because TO THEM it is obvious or at least nearly certain that he's not going to get the Nom from the Republican party (I'm not saying I believe that--but they DO). However, they would be very willing and enthusiastic about supporting him in an iNDEPENDENT run.

Primary Calendar: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/calendar.asp

Month

Date​

Feb.

9​

Kansas Republican caucus
Louisiana

12​

District of Columbia
Maryland
Virginia

19​

Washington
Wisconsin

March

4​

Ohio
Rhode Island
Texas
Vermont

11​

Mississippi
April

22​

Pennsylvania
May

6​

Indiana
North Carolina

13​

Nebraska
West Virginia primary

20​

Kentucky
Oregon

27​

Idaho Republican primary
June

3​

Montana primary
New Mexico Republican primary
South Dakota
August

Aug. 25-28​

Democratic National Convention — Denver, CO
September

Sept. 1-4​

Republican National Convention — Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN[/quote]All the best,
Ron Paul Forums[/quote]

 

[noztnac]

Ross Perot deja vu.

 

[WizarDave]

There is hope. This needs to happen NOW!!!

McCain's Presidential Ambitions Set To Be Swiftboated

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020808_presidential_ambitions.htm

Remnants of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that contributed to torpedoing John Kerry's presidential ambitions in 2004 are set to derail John McCain's hopes of becoming the Republican nominee by forcing the GOP to jettison the Senator and instigating a revolution within the party to return it to its conservative roots.
...
The campaign is being led by Sergeant Ted Sampley who has devoted much of his post-military career to campaigning for the safe return of lost POW's stranded behind enemy lines. He is Vice President of Rolling Thunder Motorcycle Rally Washington, D.C., which has no less than half a million active members.

Sampley also runs Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain organization, which has been instrumental in exposing the fact that McCain's status as a war hero and the claim that he was tortured in Vietnam is a complete fabrication, as well as highlighting the fact that McCain poses as a veteran's advocate yet abandons them on every turnkey issue.
...
Sampley dismissed the importance of McCain's delegate support, saying that as long as 10 per cent could be made to sign the pledge, the Republicans would be forced to jettison McCain, leading to a brokered convention and the selection of a different nominee.

 

[Redcard]

You all act like you love the GOP more than this country.

Nope.

I'm a Democrat for everyone but Ron Paul.

For him, I'm a republican.

It's just, when the Republicans are out there creating bigger government than the democrats, it scares me. I want the republican party to be back to the voice of smaller government.

 

[inibo]

I've already ordered a copy. While I'm waiting for it I'm reading Andrew Napolitano's books and getting getting more angry by the day.

 

[hillertexas]

Redcard...Leave Colecrowe alone!

 

[latkinson6]

Moneybombing congress now.

Today was a RonPaulforcongress money bomb day. At least thats what I was told.
I donated.