A lawful and peaceful revolution.

[Christopher A. Brown]

A 'peaceful' revolution to significantly change the USA regime is impossible. The regime can maintain itself with less than 30% of the population in its corner and its got more than that simply from those for whom the regime is a meal ticket.

Are you strictly referring to population supporting it or states supporting it?

I ask because this lawful and peaceful revolution is conducted by states lawfully, constitutionally through Article V.

If you are suggesting that 30% can control states with unconstitutional bullshit, then you are talking about a class argument that has to be won with bullshit in a public arena.

Can you provide an example of how that argument would go related to the constitutional intent peaceful and lawful revolutionaries will be using as defined with the revolution proposed in this thread?

Particularly relating to how that 30% will support state legislators in denying prime constitutional intent, trying to bypass the public arena.

 

[CPUd]

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

cryptic spam

Cpud, in his own little comic world thinking that everyone thinks like he thinks. OMG, we can only hope you are aberration.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

A 'peaceful' revolution to significantly change the USA regime is impossible. The regime can maintain itself with less than 30% of the population in its corner and its got more than that simply from those for whom the regime is a meal ticket.

As I thought, paleocon cannot provide example of the argument the unidentified 30% would implement to control states during conventions that are a part of Article V.

Whereas the strategy defined for our lawful, peaceful revolution, must control states if the people are in agreement upon prime constitutional intent.

We have a situation where the only vision citizens have is that created by the infiltrated government using media within an exclusive relationship with the people in their homes. Despite the fact people know the media info is not useful for political change, they cling to it as the only information they have in common.

 

[phill4paul]

As I thought, paleocon cannot provide example of the argument the unidentified 30% would implement to control states during conventions that are a part of Article V.

Whereas the strategy defined for our kawful, peaceful revolution, must control states if the people are in agreement upon prime constitutional intent.

We have a situation where the only vision citizens have is that created by the infiltrated government using media within an exclusive relationship with the people in their homes. Despite the fact people know the media info is not useful for political change, they cling to it as the only information they have,

I'm down with a kawful revolution.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I'm down with a kawful revolution.

You've not yet shown that you agree with and accept the prime constitutional intent that makes it possible.

But I shall keep presenting it in case at some point you actually mean what you say.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

 

[phill4paul]

You've not yet shown that you agree with and accept the prime constitutional intent that makes it possible.

But I shall keep presenting it in case at some point you actually mean what you say.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

I'm a carpenter. Sometimes a framer. And your diatribes are a half bubble off plumb.

 

[TheTexan]

This thread needs a lawful & peaceful revolution

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I'm a carpenter. Sometimes a framer. And your diatribes are a half bubble off plumb.

Framers and carpenters make the best assistants for surveyors, they have a fairly rudimentary understanding of the things you refer to.

I'm a surveyor.

Get rid of the bubble and things will make sense. You will find that it is all a perfect 90 from the string of the plumb to the water in the trough.

This is consistent with the fact that you, nor anyone has never explained how the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights IF the unity derived from constitutionally focused free speech was NOT intended to serve the purpose of giving the people power over government.

Accordingly, check your measurements and layout for action serving our futures. You will find it lacking.

 

[phill4paul]

Framers and carpenters make the best assistants for surveyors, they have a fairly rudimentary understanding of the things you refer to.

I'm a surveyor.

Get rid of the bubble and things will make sense. You will find that it is all a perfect 90 from the string of the plumb to the water in the trough.

This is consistent with the fact that you, nor anyone has never explained how the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights IF the unity derived from constitutionally focused free speech was NOT intended to serve the purpose of giving the people power over government.

Accordingly, check your measurements and layout for action serving our futures. You will find it lacking.

My measurements and layout, or lack there of, are quite sound when I regard the foundation upon which it rests. Boundaries and lines are important to surveyors but hold little value when actually building upon that which is measured. Critical analysis tells me I cannot build such a large abode on this soap stone sub-strata.

 

[wizardwatson]

I'm a carpenter. Sometimes a framer. And your diatribes are a half bubble off plumb.

Framers and carpenters make the best assistants for surveyors, they have a fairly rudimentary understanding of the things you refer to.

I'm a surveyor.

Get rid of the bubble and things will make sense. You will find that it is all a perfect 90 from the string of the plumb to the water in the trough.

This is consistent with the fact that you, nor anyone has never explained how the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights IF the unity derived from constitutionally focused free speech was NOT intended to serve the purpose of giving the people power over government.

Accordingly, check your measurements and layout for action serving our futures. You will find it lacking.

My measurements and layout, or lack there of, are quite sound when I regard the foundation upon which it rests. Boundaries and lines are important to surveyors but hold little value when actually building upon that which is measured. Critical analysis tells me I cannot build such a large abode on this soap stone sub-strata.

First things first, I'm a craftsman...

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

My measurements and layout, or lack there of, are quite sound when I regard the foundation upon which it rests. Boundaries and lines are important to surveyors but hold little value when actually building upon that which is measured. Critical analysis tells me I cannot build such a large abode on this soap stone sub-strata.

It's the only ground you/we have to stand on, let alone build upon.

The original framers designed well, but their appurtenances were imperfect and not serviceable with the onslaught of occupants and their various agendas. Still, we can ascertain the framers intent, straighten the passages, plumb the walls then reinforce as needed.

We need to do this before the roof fails!

The agendas of the squatters in the kitchen can be evicted and the goods they've stolen from our house separated from their putrid spoils. We only need to agree on which side the door hinges on, and whether its worth dirtying our boot kicking them out before the renovation starts.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

First things first, I'm a craftsman...

Nice aluminum handled pipe wrench Al's got there.

Yes, and I am too. Multiple disciplines. Wood since age 13. Exotic hard woods I'm a bit ashamed to say. Bone, brass and copper too. I excelled at 3D inlays of bone and abalone.
A welder since age 17. But the mechanical work started at age 11. The entire honda 50 engine including the 3 speed trans was apart and together within 10 months. At 13 a 55 4 door Chevy wagon with a 265 came along. It's power glide 3:60 gears and 2 barrel were replaced with 4:11s, a three speed on the tree and a 4 barrel.
By 25 I was doing lots of geometry and trig building trick gates, installing big v8's in old 40's & 50's trucks and busses.
A 75 foot double masted, gaff rigged schooner previously owned by Errol Flynn got the benefit of my wood working skills and welding as it had a steel framework under a pine plank hull with teak deck and mahogany galley.
In there somewhere fiberglass skills of mold making and fabrication provided work when I needed that.

But free form wood sculpture as an art captured hundreds of hours of time. See my avatar. That is not a Borg appendage off my right shoulder. It is a highly polished ceanothis burl which got first place in a 1974 sculptors guild show here.

But the craftsmanship and artistry was all consolidated in the business of grading (some youtube videos linked), heavy equipment operation, long hours, high pay. Big diesel powered chisels. Soon augmented with 3D control over job sites. Helping owners from the topo phase, through the grading and drainage plans, certified by a civil engineer I teamed with went for 30 years without ever making a business card. All repeat and referral business.

But still, a 6 inch crescent wrench with my fathers name engraved in it, along with a few other tools I still have of his are my most prized hand tools.

Both grandfathers were master craftsman. One trained in the Swedish army as a master blacksmith, the other, one of the last master carpenters in America that could layout and build a spiral staircase with only a framing square and hand tools.

Artistry, craftsmanship and quality are things I live and breath. This extends into original music all composed and played in open G. It extends into video production and 2.5 hours of historical documentary produced from 2005 through 2009. All broadcast hundreds of times on public access TV.

In 1998 a need for lawsuits arose. As a pro se litigant I've taken on the impossible, not succeeded by any means, but dented the armor of corruption enough so the evil vessel of power transporting us to hell is not catching air like its dark masters want, and it's taking on water in vital holds.

Function, craftsmanship, art and beauty, these are devotions I know.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I wonder what links and writing upon campaign finance corruption and reform people here can come up with?

Nothing it appears. Too bad, if minds were put to it, I imagine they could come up with some interesting perspective. That is what is needed. We've been in the box of partisanship so long, perspective is needed.

They seem mostly consumed with mocking prime constitutional intent, or those trying to use it as a point of unification.


From my thinking upon the PURPOSE of free speech, mostly about what it will be like after Americans learn some of the deeper truths in control of their world, thing that have happened, why, etc., Americans are going to change.

But in the interim, it seems to me that fairness in campaigning needs to be the standard. So until after the PURPOSE of free speech has manifested meaningfully, and America is changed and on its true path after being diverted by a dark infiltration empowered with dynamic secrecy, campaign finance should probably be a common fund with equal time in debates, campaign promotions etc.

It's not going to work to have the big corporatists trying to lie to the public with the money they have after the truth has been widely shared. They are going to know that too. They can promote candidates, but not contribute to candidates. Accordingly, their reputations will follow them in their promotion. Corporatists with good reputations will be able to effectively promote, the others will damage campaigns if they try.

Think about it.

What if America knew the truth on the most important issues we can think of? How would lies in campaigning stand a chance? The only thing that will really work is alignment with the peoples definitions of constitutional intent. That will be an EXCELLENT political atmosphere for refining our constitutional republic with democratic direction from educated people.

 

[CPUd]

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

In order to get some perspective on what campaign finance reform
might look like, or directions it could go, it seemed like looking at socialist countries might provide some insight.

Sweden
http://www.idea.int/political-finance/country.cfm?id=197

Denmark
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/17/denm-j17.html?view=article_mobile

Ending the abridging of the purpose of free speech will likely radically change the character of political campaigns making campaign finance reform unneeded.

Ironic that America is so deeply misinformed or uninformed that the issue of political campaigns and how they will operate is very difficult to imagine after America gets real information.

This of course depends on how much truth the individual American knows. The less you know, the easier politics under those conditions is to imagine. The more you know, the more you realize the shock that Americans will
undergo; therein is where the difficulty in imagining arises.

How will Americans react to truths that have been concealed from them? What kind of change will this bring to the nature of political campaigns?

 

[wizardwatson]

In order to get some perspective on what campaign finance reform
might look like, or directions it could go, it seemed like looking at socialist countries might provide some insight.

Sweden
http://www.idea.int/political-finance/country.cfm?id=197

Denmark
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/17/denm-j17.html?view=article_mobile

Ending the abridging of the purpose of free speech will likely radically change the character of political campaigns making campaign finance reform unneeded.

Ironic that America is so deeply misinformed or uninformed that the issue of political campaigns and how they will operate is very difficult to imagine after America gets real information.

This of course depends on how much truth the individual American knows. The less you know, the easier politics under those conditions is to imagine. The more you know, the more you realize the shock that Americans will
undergo; therein is where the difficulty in imagining arises.

How will Americans react to truths that have been concealed from them? What kind of change will this bring to the nature of political campaigns?

Where have you been Chris? Four months you've been gone.

Was reminded of you yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

 

[Ronin Truth]

'Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.” ' -- Thomas Jefferson 3rd US President (1801-1809)

 

[wizardwatson]

I have conceptualized software for a new type of forum called "Poll to Post" that will greatly enhance and speed this process.

http://algoxy.com/poly/poll_to_post.html

Where have you been Chris?

Anyway, I read over your "poll to post" software idea. I think it's overkill. It seems merely another manifestation of your goal to "divine" who the good guys are, or in this case, divine who the good posters are. Your never-ending quest to find that one in 10,000 SiNcErE aMeRiCaN.

I was taken most by this point in the text linked above:

Since the diversity of topic and division of topic appears as such a force of confusion in this medium, I feel that many posters have a degree of anxiety they self treat with their expressions. There are no bad intentions in this case. Only a varyingly manifested indulgence in compulsion.

Interesting observation, but I'd say the topics are irrelevant. People like to self-express in this medium. Topic is just a function of what doesn't bore them. The goal itself is self-expression! It isn't something they are doing to deal with the anxiety of the topic. It is basic human vanity of staring at an idealized version of ourselves in the mirror of bulletin boards.

A fancy divination method might help you find a metric to determine who real activists are, but you still need a strategy. And finding strategists-while certainly helpful to a general strategy-still is no replacement.

You had a method. That is something. You still have no organization.

Anyway, you've been gone a couple years now. Guess I'm talking to myself.

 

[phill4paul]

Thanks wiz....