A blimp is a BAD IDEA - here is why

another neg rep, because Gunny says this is a lie, and Gunny is more trustworthy.

You don't even have to take my word for it. Just think about the events in logical order.

My run for NCGOP Vice Chair was a year long campaign. by the time that was over, we were a year out from the Primary (I was contacted by Greg Brannon to work, and I said I don't know - I was still blistered by the VC loss. Later I would have rather said 'yes' but then only a few months later I was involved in the VC appointment battle when Karl Rove's pick got appointed to the Senate.

By the time I was actually "free" in any real way it was like ~2-3 months before the election.

Yeah, I'm broke up I wasn't given a major position - lol no. I'm broke up that the best candidate didn't win because his campaign manager was just following Rothfeld's orders, and therefore was less effective at recruiting electoral votes than he should have been.

The only thing I care about is shoving the government back into it's Constitutional box. There is no 'political machine' in the universe that really likes that idea, because the worker will only have loyalty to one thing, and it's not them. :)
 
Gunny is butthurt that he wasn't asked to be involved in the Brannon campaign, he told me so himself in person earlier this year. That being said, it was apparently a wise choice on their part NOT to hire him given his behavior after the fact of him openly and publicly slamming the campaign at the conclusion by posting harsh criticism here on RPF. Valid or invalid it doesn't matter... it's an unprofessional thing to do and as such I am pretty positive that after that antic he will not be involved or get the support of the liberty movement apparatus ever again simply because he can't be trusted to have tact.

WTF is a liberty movement apparatus?? And who put you in charge of it?
 
This guy doesn't seem to get that he's burying himself. I almost feel sorry for him.

If Ron Paul PCC really did seek this guy out to take the temperature of the online liberty movement, it is no wonder they would have distanced themselves from us. Matt is just fictions within fictions. I can just imagine how much he told the PCC we were all crazy, that he was needed to control us, and only showing them out of context snippits to justify himself.

Matt, because of his pathological sell aggrandization due to narcissistic personality disorder, may have single-handedly caused the defeat of Ron Paul 2008 by driving a wedge in between the campaign and his most solid base through misrepresentation for personal promotion.
 
Gunny is butthurt that he wasn't asked to be involved in the Brannon campaign, he told me so himself in person earlier this year. That being said, it was apparently a wise choice on their part NOT to hire him given his behavior after the fact of him openly and publicly slamming the campaign at the conclusion by posting harsh criticism here on RPF. Valid or invalid it doesn't matter... it's an unprofessional thing to do and as such I am pretty positive that after that antic he will not be involved or get the support of the liberty movement apparatus ever again simply because he can't be trusted to have tact.

The people who have propelled Ron Paul and Rand Paul into prominence aren't going to be subjects to some "liberty movement apparatus".

This thanksgiving, I had dinner with an extended network of family and friends and we all sat around a large bon fire and the discussion inevitably turned to presidential politics.

To my great surprise, I was was being evangelized to by 3 generations of people about libertarian principles and was asked if I knew who Ron Paul was.

I just listened and the most vocal of the bunch was a young lady who was extremely excited be able to go out and vote for the first time in 2016 and couldn't wait to vote for the libertarian candidate.

Matt, who's responsibility is it to make sure these people get registered and go vote in the Republican primary? The reason I ask is because where I live, you so called "liberty movement apparatus" doesn't exist.

What exist are people who are willing to hold themselves accountable and take on that extra responsibility of filling in the gaps where people who make a career out of politics just cannot fill.

That is most of the people in this forum. I can't understand what your purpose is at this point.

Are you trying to ask the grassroots to fulfill a specific role in this so called liberty movement apparatus?

This terminology makes you sound like a central planning statist. It sounds like you are driving a wedge between grassroots liberty activists and political icons like Ron Paul and potentially Rand Paul.

Let me let you in on something. If I had to choose between supporting your liberty movement apparatus (whatever it is) and supporting an individual that I have witnessed walk the talk, I'd chose that individual every time.

I am beginning to wonder about your motivation and I am starting to seriously question what it is that you actually represent. I know you are connected to the Paul's and to be quite honest with you, if the message I have been hearing coming from you is coming from the Paul's I am going to have to take another look at my support of Rand in 2016.

I can't believe that at this point in time that anyone would seriously take your advice about internet activism much less put you in charge of any type of outreach of liaison to grassroots.


Your attack on Gunny in this venue is misplaced and unprofessional. I think you have used your position withing the Paul circle to do more self promotion and self enrichment than actually bridging that gap.

Down here in FL, we probably will not see much attention from any 2016 liberty candidate, like we didn't in 2008 or 2012. Rally for the republic was nice except it was of course tainted with controversy between the actual grassroots movement and the so called "liberty apparatus" that would like to take advantage of it.

It also marked the point where the so called "liberty apparatus" would make the intentions know that it would begin steering that grassroots movement into the 2 party structure. "Republi" CAN.

I feel like I am about to get blind sided by this so called "liberty movement apparatus".

2012 felt bad because the campaign seemed completely clueless in it's attempt to recapture 2008 emotion. We knew 2008 was an educational thing, but 2012 was supposed to capitalize and it really failed pretty hard. A big reason is because the campaign did not take queues from the grassroots.

Take a queue from the grassroots Matt and pass it on to the campaign.

The blimp was an amazing idea and was successful in showing just how powerful Ron Paul's grassroots will be. There is a reason that the Paul's ground game is considered to be elite in politics. The blimp showed that.

The blimp fires up other people to be part of the ground game. It was unique, it was something the grassroots decided to do and did it, regardless of cost, regardless of any attempt to shut it down by others. It was also legitimate, unlike some of the other things people were duped into funding.

Long story short. Matt, what the hell do you think you are doing here?
 
BTW,

I remember talking to the blimp organizers when they were laying out the flight path. It was during a playoff football game that I went to with a fox news ron paul fake out sign. We made the news and so did the blimp and the thing was shown on national tv during football playoffs. It was great exposure and people around here still remember it.

Remember the message on the blimp?

"Who is Ron Paul"? "Google Ron Paul"

Do you think anyone out there doesn't know who Ron Paul is by now? Thank you blimp. ;)
 
The other thing that people don't talk about when it comes to the blimp is how the whole thing was financed. It broke new ground at the time.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7245.html

They shunned traditional mechanisms such as creating an independent non-profit group under section 527 of the IRS code — like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and the other groups that spent millions on ads in 2004 — or a political action committee — like EMILY’s List. Instead, they went an almost unheard of route, establishing a for-profit company: Liberty Political Advertising.The name is a nod to Paul’s ideology and the website boasts the “legal arrangement offers the best of both worlds: no limits and virtually no regulations.” In other words, very libertarian.
 
Actually that is a straight up lie...... I barely even mentioned that i was looking for work with Brannon.
No, that was the main thrust of your anger about the campaign. You were mad that you didn't get hired and so you publicly slammed them. Turns out that they made a good decision in not hiring you given the way you acted after the fact. Enjoy irrelevancy...
 
Matt, because of his pathological sell aggrandization due to narcissistic personality disorder, may have single-handedly caused the defeat of Ron Paul 2008 by driving a wedge in between the campaign and his most solid base through misrepresentation for personal promotion.
I didn't work for Ron Paul in 2008... get your facts straight :rolleyes:
 
No, that was the main thrust of your anger about the campaign. You were mad that you didn't get hired and so you publicly slammed them. Turns out that they made a good decision in not hiring you given the way you acted after the fact. Enjoy irrelevancy...

That is a product of your imagination, and for accusing me of it, you are a bad person, and you should be ashamed. Because it appears that you are doing all of this for shameless self promotion, then you are a despicable person, and you should be cast out entirely.
 
This thanksgiving, I had dinner with an extended network of family and friends and we all sat around a large bon fire and the discussion inevitably turned to presidential politics.

To my great surprise, I was was being evangelized to by 3 generations of people about libertarian principles and was asked if I knew who Ron Paul was.

I just listened and the most vocal of the bunch was a young lady who was extremely excited be able to go out and vote for the first time in 2016 and couldn't wait to vote for the libertarian candidate.

Matt, who's responsibility is it to make sure these people get registered and go vote in the Republican primary?
This is encouraged, but relying on registering people to vote is not a winning strategy. Remember that the focus is on likely Republican voters who are already going to the polls.


Are you trying to ask the grassroots to fulfill a specific role in this so called liberty movement apparatus?

This terminology makes you sound like a central planning statist. It sounds like you are driving a wedge between grassroots liberty activists and political icons like Ron Paul and potentially Rand Paul.
No, not at all. My goal is to get people trained so that they will be more effective instead of wasting time on silly unproductive things like blimps and sign waves.

Winning an election, for the most part, is very formulaic. Once you know the formula and understand how to implement it then you can become an invaluable asset for a liberty candidate.



Your attack on Gunny in this venue is misplaced and unprofessional.
I have not attacked Gunny at all... I have merely set the record straight.



It also marked the point where the so called "liberty apparatus" would make the intentions know that it would begin steering that grassroots movement into the 2 party structure. "Republi" CAN.
That was a specific messaging strategy so that Rand would not be saddled with excess baggage in the future.




2012 felt bad because the campaign seemed completely clueless in it's attempt to recapture 2008 emotion. We knew 2008 was an educational thing, but 2012 was supposed to capitalize and it really failed pretty hard. A big reason is because the campaign did not take queues from the grassroots.
Not at all... 2012 was MUCH more successful than 2008... our % were up and the amount of delegates Ron won to the RNC was a massive increase too.


People support a candidate that they like and best fits them... the candidate doesn't take cues from his supporters... you have that backwards.


The blimp was an amazing idea and was successful in showing just how powerful Ron Paul's grassroots will be.
No, it showed that some people didn't know how to win an election and were distracted by something shiny.
 
BTW,

I remember talking to the blimp organizers when they were laying out the flight path. It was during a playoff football game that I went to with a fox news ron paul fake out sign. We made the news and so did the blimp and the thing was shown on national tv during football playoffs. It was great exposure and people around here still remember it.
That did absolutely nothing to help us electorally....
 
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