A blimp is a BAD IDEA - here is why

James R said:
Matt, I think what you should do is actively promote giving money to targeted groups, but refrain from raining on parades, as you put it. Go ahead and pump out posts about who should be marketed to and how, but avoid saying "don't donate money to the blimp".
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Sorry - at this point I don't care about hurting people's feelings. My only goal is to win. If a few people get their egos crushed but Ron gets through the primaries, then that's what it takes (my ego included). This isn't about me, this isn't about you, this isn't about how people feel, this isn't even about Ron. It's about our country and putting it back on the right track!

I cannot stand idly by and watch fellow Ron Paul supporters throw away good money that could be better used elsewhere to get Ron elected. I have the knowledge and education and I am going to use every bit of it to get Ron elected.
 
Matt Collins said:
Sorry - at this point I don't care about hurting people's feelings. My only goal is to win. If a few people get their egos crushed but Ron gets through the primaries, then that's what it takes (my ego included). This isn't about me, this isn't about you, this isn't about how people feel, this isn't even about Ron. It's about our country and putting it back on the right track!

I cannot stand idly by and watch fellow Ron Paul supporters throw away good money that could be better used elsewhere to get Ron elected. I have the knowledge and education and I am going to use every bit of it to get Ron elected.
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Wouldn't your post be much better and more effective if it was titled: "Max out the grassroots bang for the buck!". It could still mention the blimp is not a good bang for the buck, but in a positive way instead of negative. What does your marketing marketing book say about positive vs. negative advertising?
 
James R said:
Wouldn't your post be much better and more effective if it was titled: "Max out the grassroots bang for the buck!". It could still mention the blimp is not a good bang for the buck, but in a positive way instead of negative. What does your marketing marketing book say about positive vs. negative advertising?
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No one would read it if I put a title like that on it. Controversy sells, or do you forget I have a minor in marketing ;) :D :p
 
I am not sure the campaign has enough time and talent and manpower for research targeted advertising. The campaign has been behind for months on answering emails, let alone segmenting the emails and upselling donors and encouraging volunteers to donate time.

This may be changing very quickly I hope. Most of the campaigns are overwhelmed this year. Even the top tier campaign are still trying to sign up people just to get on the ballots in many states.

I know McCain and Romney were out collecting signatures last week.
 
Primbs said:
I am not sure the campaign has enough time and talent and manpower for research targeted advertising. The campaign has been behind for months on answering emails, let alone segmenting the emails and upselling donors and encouraging volunteers to donate time.

This may be changing very quickly I hope. Most of the campaigns are overwhelmed this year. Even the top tier campaign are still trying to sign up people just to get on the ballots in many states.

I know McCain and Romney were out collecting signatures last week.
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I don't think there is much to research. Who we should target and how we should target is not much of a mystery. We should target Arab Americans, gun enthusiasts, precious metal investors ("gold bugs" especially), war protestors, military combat troops, medical marijuana industry people, and nutritional suppliment enthusiasts and employes. In second place would be value investors, currency investors, and NAFTA protestors. By targeting those groups alone we can win the election. If that campaign can't do this then let the chip-ins begin.

Matt: I recommend making a list of targets and the best places to target each specific group. I'd be glad to help you with such a list.
 
Cities are worth targeting in California

Matt Collins said:
If you fly a blimp over a city and 1,000,000 people see the blimp, only x% of those people will be registered voters, and only about 10-20% of those registered voters will vote in the primary, and if it's a major city I would venture to say most of them will be Democrats (urban areas are almost always Democratic - in closed primary states this is a waste).
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In California, all Congressional districts are worth 3 delegates to the Republican National Convention -- including the heavily Democratic districts with only a few thousand registered Republicans. Far from being a waste, these would probably be the best places to campaign for Ron Paul.

Of course, with the numbers being relatively small in those districts, they could be targeted by canvassers on foot, as some Meetups have already started.

I think the blimp idea is creative and if people want to support it, it's their money. I think billboards might be more cost effective though.
 
No it may not be "targeted"and it may not be the biggest bang for the buck, but it is unique. Unique is good because people remember it.
I think it is targeted enough that every single person who would see it, knows that we need a person in the president's position. haha

It's not like we are trying to sell push up bras or laxative (hehe) on the blimp where your target would be much smaller. That I would agree with, that a blimp would be stupid and not worth it. However, we are selling a man for the presidency of America.

I have never seen a blimp. I have seen tons of commercials that I remember nothing about. I have seen lots of billboards too.

If there are people who want to raise the money, then that's awesome. If you don't want to put in your money, then that's okay too.

Billboards can be a huge waste of money too. Only the big companies like McDonald's and Pepsi get returns on those. It's about repetition because billboards are easy to drive by without ever looking at them. Also does a billboard make you want to go home and research whatever it is on the billboard? The reader has to want to take action for it to be effective. Unlike a drink or food product, people see those and then just stop by at the convenience store for one. We are asking people to research Ron Paul and then vote for him. That's a lot to ask for on a billboard. :p

Can you remember every billboard you drove by this week?
 
Matt Collins said:
Sorry - at this point I don't care about hurting people's feelings. My only goal is to win. If a few people get their egos crushed but Ron gets through the primaries, then that's what it takes (my ego included). This isn't about me, this isn't about you, this isn't about how people feel, this isn't even about Ron. It's about our country and putting it back on the right track!

I cannot stand idly by and watch fellow Ron Paul supporters throw away good money that could be better used elsewhere to get Ron elected. I have the knowledge and education and I am going to use every bit of it to get Ron elected.
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Touche!
 
Haven't I heard this same complaint about the Granny Warriors and the Nov 5 moneybomb? Complain all you want but getting his name out to people who have never heard of him is worth a lot. This is why it is GRASSROOTS :)
 
300K wow...

That is alot of money to be used for promotion.

Check this. I can get 1.4cents for an automated phone bank call.

For 300K you can reach: over 2.4 MILLION targeted voters

Lets read that again... 2.4 million with a 60 second message.

OR

85K = US DAILY FULL PAGE
60K = LA TIMES FULL PAGE
70K = NY TIMES FULL PAGE

90K --> push into an early primary state TV RUN
 
its a pledge so its not a waste,and if the pledge is met,its what people want,always someone, who thinks something is bad or a good idea. the money sounds like alot,but add in the untold media coverage and it becomes a very good idea. I say either way ,if the pledges are met,then it would be a good idea,since a pledge is just a pledge,but if met. I can Tell you a Ron Paul blimp would make every major media market. hell lets start a thread attacking others ideas,seems to be the norm in here,everyone seems to have an opinion on whats right/wrong or whats a good idea or bad,if that was the case we wouldnt be doing anything.


25 bucks is in my pledge,and i would be proud to donate more if the goal gets closer,just to prove my point id donate another 25;)
 
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If the blimp can raise it's own money who cares, it's about people doing what they want, I'll find it hard to believe they can but more power to them. Start what ever project you want and if people fund it cool. Every project in these boards could work there are millions of people that will be for Ron.

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- Its not going to get media attention. Point Blank! they don't care. When has the MSM ever done anything for Ron Paul. It will go unoticed. Nice originl idea though, keep going.
 
I would agree with the naysers if this was a conventional campaign.

However, this is not a conventional campaign, so..

A Blimp? Why not?
 
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