A blimp is a BAD IDEA - here is why

This thread and the same people that are doing this across the site:

divisive –adjective
1. forming or expressing division or distribution.
2. creating dissension or discord.

Mods, get more active please.
 
And if the owner is such a Ron Paul fan why is it $350,000???? (according to site and owner)

Cant we just buy like 30 Big Rigs and Ron Paul them all up and drive them cross nation all over?
Much better idea.

again reconsider.

as noted in another thread you can fly over a game for $750-900

we could fly over every single game from here to primaries and still have money left over to buy big rigs, trucks and cars to Ron Paul out.

real freedom riders covering states per day.
 
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Snakes on a Blimp.

Anyway, if a blimp is really multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars, I think we can probably do better elsewhere.
 
again reconsider.

as noted in another thread you can fly over a game for $750-900

we could fly over every single game from here to primaries and still have money left over to buy big rigs, trucks and cars to Ron Paul out.

real freedom riders covering states per day.

I was going to stay silent on the issue, but these two posts sum it up... While it would be 'really cool' to get a blimp, I think it would be nicer for us then the undecided voters and the money should go to a better cause...
 
will pledge another 10 bucks just because i can,and i dont care what others think,i like the blimp and no one elses views are gonna change that,thats what ron paul would say
 
Research reveals that statistics on the aerial effectiveness of blimps in quite impressive. Here are just a few examples:

1. In 1984, Fuji Film drove their market share from 7 % to 22% in only a 2-month period as a result of their aerial advertising campaign covering the 1984 Olympic games in Los Angeles. The campaign was so successful that Fuji is still using BLIMP advertising today - 20 years later!

2. In 1992, Kraft increased its sales by 87% in Germany alone during the Kraft Blimp promotion tour.

3. Studies indicate that in a typical city of about 1 million people, during a 5-day flight period, 65% recall the message presented on the airship.
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We need to continue and expand ALL of our current efforts. But, we are NOT winning the war. It is essential to win the early primaries and we continue to lag in Name Recognition. Time is running out... we need to make a major breakthrough... this may be a "magic bullet".

Imagine seeing something like the image above on TV... imagine thousands of voting age college students seeing the message... imagine the immediate coverage available by the MSM... Imagine Ron Paul as President!
 
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there is a difference between Kodak Vs Fuji and Ron Paul vs who ever they already have in mind.

a blimp wont change anyones mind.
We need hundreds to thousands of ads in places all over to get the market.

what good is a singlew blimp in a few cities?

with those funds we could do a LOT more.

and if you're stuck on the idea of having vehicles instead of advertising then why not 50 big rigs?
driving cross country?

NOT together but alllll over on all the major interstates.
Much more ye reach that way and cheaper.

a blimp is all your duckets in one bucket.
but whatever, fuck it.
you guys know whats best, or in the case "cool"
 
All the advertisements cost extreme amounts of money. In the age of TIVO, we are not even sure if our voters are seeing the TV ads.

The ads may also be poorly made or unconvincing. Even if we spend the money, the campaign may not progress in the polls due to unimaginative or uninspired ads.

Ron Paul ads also compete with very highly produced ads of corporations and other presidential campaigns which have had bigger budgets up to now.

It is hard to have memorable or persuasive ads when there are slick ads running. Obviously some low budget ads can be persuasive, but that seems to be the exception not the rule.

After spending several million in Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan a lot of money will be tapped out. Then we have a few more contests.

We could spend one million on South Carolina, three million on Florida about a week before super tuesday.

On Super Tuesday, twenty states hold primaries. Very few campaigns can afford to buy any significant TV or radio time with any concentration, intensity and frequency in all the large cities. How can we even spend one million for each state.

And of course California where you can spend twenty million all by itself or forty million. Prices for radio and TV time in the second largest media market in the country is huge. Then you have San Diego, San Francisco and the central valley media markets and you have no more money. You might get ads for one day if you can afford it.

We might have no choice but to do something which captures the attention of the free media and news.

After the campaign has raised twenty million total, a three hundred thousand dollar blimp expenditure might garner millions of dollars in news coverage. It is only about 2 or 3 percent of the entire Ron Paul campaign budget. The blimp will even be a smaller amount of the budget if Ron Paul raises 30 million for the entire campaign.

Otherwise Romney will probably tap into his fortune and spend 50 to 100 million of his own money to win.
 
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This thread and the same people that are doing this across the site:

divisive –adjective
1. forming or expressing division or distribution.
2. creating dissension or discord.

Reality is harsh.

Mods, get more active please.

So, you favor a police state when there is dissent? What in the world are you doing supporting Ron Paul if you really feel this way? :confused:
 
there is a difference between Kodak Vs Fuji and Ron Paul vs who ever they already have in mind.

a blimp wont change anyones mind.
We need hundreds to thousands of ads in places all over to get the market.

what good is a single blimp in a few cities?

with those funds we could do a LOT more.

and if you're stuck on the idea of having vehicles instead of advertising then why not 50 big rigs?
driving cross country?

NOT together but alllll over on all the major interstates.
Much more ye reach that way and cheaper.

a blimp is all your duckets in one bucket.
but whatever, fuck it.
you guys know whats best, or in the case "cool"

Thank God for some clarity.
 
to all the people who favor traditional radio and TV ads:
you might be right. but we should leave that to the campaign. if you want to support that donate to the official campaign.

the grassroots are about cool things which show the amount of support ron paul has. like 5th of november, or like showing up in the 1000s at rallies(there is no value to that, except showing support, and I don't see anyone complaining that the traveling costs of attending rallies should be spent on radio ads.)

so you might be right that radio ads are more effective. but if we can finance a blimp with people who've maxed out and foreigners and a few people who just think it's a good idea we should do so. it won't hurt traditional campaigning.
 
yeah, i doubt a blimp can be arranged in time, you'd be better off getting flyover planes and hiring someone to paint their bodies with an RP theme and walk around times square.

oh man, times square...


what's the plan for new year's eve?
 
"I think ___ is a bad idea, you would be much better off doing ____"

These types of threads are a nuisance and detract from enthusiasm. People are going to choose, with their own money and effort and creativity, what to do. We do not need to try to define ideas as good and bad, let people vote with their dollars.
 
"I think ___ is a bad idea, you would be much better off doing ____"

These types of threads are a nuisance and detract from enthusiasm. People are going to choose, with their own money and effort and creativity, what to do. We do not need to try to define ideas as good and bad, let people vote with their dollars.

Or contribute constructive criticism. No idea is perfect on its own, or cant be improved, be careful not to squash any positive contributions.
 
I think getting the message out to 1Million people for $300k who might be 10% willing to vote for us is better than spending $300K to get 100,000 people who will vote for us.

We need to get his name out there more than anything.

Does anyone have any idea how many semi-truckloads of signs and banners $300K would buy and get on the ground where needed???
 
Go start a business and make some REAL MONEY.

Lesson:Get some nouse.

If you want to be succesful: Don't be a show pony.
 
to all the people who favor traditional radio and TV ads:
you might be right. but we should leave that to the campaign. if you want to support that donate to the official campaign.
Why wait for the campaign? If you can give money to something locally where you can see and even have a hand in the results, don't you think that would be better?


the grassroots are about cool things which show the amount of support ron paul has.
I thought it was about winning. Like it or not, advertising on traditional media is what it will take. The average voter's age is like 60 and they don't make decisions based on new marketing techniques. They read the paper, and they watch the nightly news, and they listen to talk radio...


so you might be right that radio ads are more effective. but if we can finance a blimp with people who've maxed out and foreigners and a few people who just think it's a good idea we should do so. it won't hurt traditional campaigning.
That money could be better spent elsewhere. It is not an opinion, it is a fact. For the amount of a blimp ($300k) I could guarantee a win in Nashville.
 
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