A blimp is a BAD IDEA - here is why

[green73]

I normally get along VERY well with Anarchist's.

You do? Or is that just more garbage that you spew?

 

[jmdrake]

did you tell him, he was the guy who tried to kill King James?
(yes, THAT King James. )

Yes I know he tried to kill King James and put a Catholic monarch on the thrown and that's part of the reason I'm not a fan of Guy Fawkes. He was merely trying to replace one statist with another. And I'm personally a fan of the KJV. (Have a NKJV myself).

the blimp was my very first "political" donation.. EVARR!!

The blimp really was a cool idea.

 

[Matt Collins]

You and I are "the fringe".

And we are not welcome in the Collins/Benton scheme of things.

And they have made this clear for years now.

No, I wrote about the perception of being fringe... perception in politics is most of the time more important that reality

 

[green73]

Again, I didn't even know who HVACTech was until just recently.

 

[jmdrake]

Actually if you were there, you will remember that the mask and the 5th of November was not really about "Guy Fawkes" but rather "V for Vendetta". If you watch the movie you understand what the true meaning of our "5th of November" in 2007 was all about...

If you'll note my sign up date you'll realize I was there and I am aware of V for Vendetta. That doesn't mean that I agree with the "logic" of using Guy Fawkes as a "liberty mascot".

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yes, and that's because Ron didn't frame and phrase things in a way that made it so they wouldn't boo him. You can't win a Republican primary without Republican primary voters.

Are suggesting that Ron lie about what Christ said in the bible to score a few cheap political points?

Or just spin it better for the Warvangelicals?

 

[Anti Federalist]

No, I wrote about the perception of being fringe... perception in politics is most of the time more important that reality

So, "mainstream" activism is out and "fringe" activism is out.

Leaving nothing but Collins/Benton approved activism.

That about sum it up?

 

[phill4paul]

I normally get along VERY well with Anarchist's.

Or "anarchist" sock puppets.

 

[HVACTech]

Yes I know he tried to kill King James and put a Catholic monarch on the thrown and that's part of the reason I'm not a fan of Guy Fawkes. He was merely trying to replace one statist with another. And I'm personally a fan of the KJV. (Have a NKJV myself).



The blimp really was a cool idea.

we got hijacked. just like what happened with the Tea Party..

 

[phill4paul]

Again, I didn't even know who HVACTech was until just recently.

Out of the blue with a "reputation beyond repute" moniker. Amazing. It'd be interesting if the mods checked his rep history.

 

[Matt Collins]

Are suggesting that Ron lie about what Christ said in the bible to score a few cheap political points?

Nope, not at all.. but he doesn't have to go there at all, or if he does, he could phrase it in a way that doesn't agitate the audience.

 

[HVACTech]

Or "anarchist" sock puppets.

if our founders were Anarchist's, would you ever have heard of them?
no.
so, therefore. what were they?

 

[TheTexan]

How is it a guy with 844 posts has a "reputation beyond repute?" Just wondering. How many sock puppets are you running?

Repflation. The value of a +rep goes up depending on how much rep someone has.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Yes, and that's because Ron didn't frame and phrase things in a way that made it so they wouldn't boo him. You can't win a Republican primary without Republican primary voters.

Or, you could bring in more Republican primary voters.

For all your so-called expertise about marketing, you don't seem to understand the concept of thinking outside the box.

Ron Paul required that kind of thinking in 2007. He was unlike any candidate voters had seen in a very long time. It didn't matter what party he belonged to. I certainly wasn't a Republican before. I changed parties just so I could vote for Ron.

The case I'm making is that it wasn't the George W. Bush voters you needed...those people were (and still are) your typical Republican primary voters. Typical Republican voters think the U.S. is always right no matter what, they put Israel first, and never question anything if a Rush Limbaugh says it. Of course those people weren't going to vote for Ron!

What we needed was to go out and attract new blood (as AF said)....people who had voted before and grown apathetic, young people who were already cynical about their future and the political process, Democrats/Republicans/Independents/Libertarians/Anyone who feel they have no representative in government...get them to switch parties if they needed to, get them to register if they weren't already.

If you wanted to spend your money on flyers trying to convince 5 people out of 10,000 who attend GOP cocktail parties, that's your business. But why must you discourage others who wanted to spend their money on something that might have grown Ron's base with people who already think the way he does? Those people were not likely to show up at rallies and boo him....they would have shown up and cheered loudly.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Out of the blue with a "reputation beyond repute" moniker. Amazing. It'd be interesting if the mods checked his rep history.

Apparently some people are beyond repute and don't have to be checked.

 

[jmdrake]

Or, you could bring in more Republican primary voters.

For all your so-called expertise about marketing, you don't seem to understand the concept of thinking outside the box.

Ron Paul required that kind of thinking in 2007. He was unlike any candidate voters had seen in a very long time. It didn't matter what party he belonged to. I certainly wasn't a Republican before. I changed parties just so I could vote for Ron.

The case I'm making is that it wasn't the George W. Bush voters you needed...those people were (and still are) your typical Republican primary voters. Typical Republican voters think the U.S. is always right no matter what, they put Israel first, and never question anything if a Rush Limbaugh says it. Of course those people weren't going to vote for Ron!

What we needed was to go out and attract new blood (as AF said)....people who had voted before and grown apathetic, young people who were already cynical about their future and the political process, Democrats/Republicans/Independents/Libertarians/Anyone who feel they have no representative in government...get them to switch parties if they needed to, get them to register if they weren't already.

If you wanted to spend your money on flyers trying to convince 5 people out of 10,000 who attend GOP cocktail parties, that's your business. But why must you discourage others who wanted to spend their money on something that might have grown Ron's base with people who already think the way he does? Those people were not likely to show up at rallies and boo him....they would have shown up and cheered loudly.

+rep!

 

[phill4paul]

Repflation. The value of a +rep goes up depending on how much rep someone has.

Your's too. Your snarkiness has gone on too long. neg rep.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If you wanted to spend your money on flyers trying to convince 5 people out of 10,000 who attend GOP cocktail parties, that's your business. But why must you discourage others who wanted to spend their money on something that might have grown Ron's base with people who already think the way he does? Those people were not likely to show up at rallies and boo him....they would have shown up and cheered loudly.

Right now the hidebound GOP, ever intent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, because it is, in the end, being run by bunch of Collins clones, is wringing its hanky in panic at how to reach the "youth" vote.

 

[HVACTech]

Out of the blue with a "reputation beyond repute" moniker. Amazing. It'd be interesting if the mods checked his rep history.

 

[Matt Collins]

Right now the hidebound GOP, ever intent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, because it is, in the end, being run by bunch of Collins clones, is wringing its hanky in panic at how to reach the "youth" vote.

How many of those locations did he even come close to winning?