I don't really blame them for pushing her in this particular case. Even without listening to any talking heads I thought she performed the best out of all of them by far, although obviously I agreed with Rand the most.
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I don't really blame them for pushing her in this particular case. Even without listening to any talking heads I thought she performed the best out of all of them by far, although obviously I agreed with Rand the most.
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That they're pumping Carly so hard (my apologies for the imagery), looks like a good sign to me.
It means Trump's going down, which means this really is like last time, with assorted clowns surging in succession through the summer.
It would mean that the field's still wide open.
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The "debate show" format suits her, she essentially did the same in the last debate.
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They're going to push Carly hard, that is certainly true. And she will certainly see a dramatic increase in polling numbers, but I'm not sold that the Trump voters will leave him. He's got this weird thing going in which the people who like him, like him because he's an asshole who is hated by everyone including the media and other politicians.
When the media rips Trump, his supporters double down on him. I don't know what anyone can do to pull people away from him, other than beat him at his own game, which really shouldn't be that hard to do. Just goad him into being a bombastic ass, and then counter with a line that makes him come off as the clown-child he is.
It is entirely possible that this nomination will come down to a non-Trump outsider candidate (Carly, Carson, or possibly Rand), Trump, and an establishment candidate (Jeb, Cruz, Rubio, Rand). If Rand can last, he might be able to pull enough support from those who want a non-Trump outsider, and those who want an establishment candidate, to actually win. The path is WAY more difficult with Trump mucking things up now, though, and I hope that he leaves sooner rather than later.
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Some used to call them commie news network which sounds bit rough... but to be fair they have a track record of being moderate neocons. Recall CNN's Candy offered a soft candy to DGP in debate to get him out of tough question about 9/11 (Benghazi) terror attack.
don't worry...its going to be repeated ad naseum.
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No doubt it'll be tubed tomorrow, dunno about tonight.
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Did we do okay at least?
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Luntz focus group: Rand too isolationist, pretty much got no positive responses from the crowd.
Getting the Ron Paul treatment for sure from the media and Fox's hand-picked "focus group."
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As you saw above, I found the tubes (those boys are quick!).
Anyway, yea, I thought we did great. The first half or so Rand hardly got any time, and what he did get he didn't use as effectively as he could have: no blunders, but nothing too remarkable either. In the second half, however, he killed it. Beginning with a fantastic answer on foreign policy, and then another on marijuana: which drew some direct responses from the clowns, so Rand got to speak again in rebuttal. All around, I give it an 8/10. IMO, he should rise a bit in the polls from this, while Trump and Carson should fall. Fiorina will rise too, though. I'd say Rand and Fiorina split the votes shed from Trump/Carson.
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I actually like how Trump eviscerated Luntz for his fake focus group after the Fox News debate. Practically every member of Luntz's focus group in the last debate said that Trump did terrible and lost their support, and then Trump had a significant increase in the polls after the Fox News debate.
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I was reading live comments on reddit and on here and the comments were pretty good all around for Rand. He definitely did better this time. I'm going to watch it later, one of the comments i was reading said that Carly blinks a lot while she is talking like some sort of Disney animatronic robot or like lizard people. I couldn't get over the way Trumps body language was in the first debate he talks with his hands so much like some sort of music conductor.
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