7-yr-old girl killed at MI soccer practice after ‘paranoid’ man with CCW license opens fire

RJB said:
I had trouble jumping into this conversation because of this. I used to live just South of the Canadian border. I have a laid back, midwestern personality and most Canadians were even more laid back than me. I love 'em. Maybe I've just never met an angry one, eh.
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I am laid back too, but Canadians are the most frustrating people in the world. They interrupt, they can't track a conversation, and they have absolutely no sense of urgency. Get stuck behind one at the airport and you'll likely miss your flight. But if you accidentally bump into one, they apologize. That always cracks me up.
 
And if you haven't Googled "Canada mass shooting" yet, I suggest you do so. Turns out they're not quite as immune as the media would like you to believe.
 
Man hits dog with stick. Dog attacks man, and not stick.

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Human shoots human with gun, human attacks gun...

Get to the source of the problem. Attacking the weapon is counter productive.
 
RJB said:
I had trouble jumping into this conversation because of this. I used to live just South of the Canadian border. I have a laid back, midwestern personality and most Canadians were even more laid back than me. I love 'em. Maybe I've just never met an angry one, eh.
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According to the 2nd Amendment, the people are the Militia, but maybe they should be more 'well regulated' or held to a higher standard beyond just a criminal background check.

They should put in regular range time for one thing. If they are observed as acting disturbed at the range, they shouldn't be armed.

I also think it's a problem if someone buys a snubnose pistol for defense and just leaves it in a drawer or glove box without training with it. They will not be competent with it or respect the deadly power of the weapon they bought. Or as I think recently happened again, a child found the gun in the car and shot themselves.
 
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The reason we don't speak French is because the English mandated ownership of weapons.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ent-and-the-English-longbow&highlight=longbow

VIDEODROME said:
According to the 2nd Amendment, the people are the Militia, but maybe they should be more 'well regulated' or held to a higher standard beyond just a criminal background check.

They should put in regular range time for one thing. If they are observed as acting disturbed at the range, they shouldn't be armed.

I also think it's a problem if someone buys a snubnose pistol for defense and just leaves it in a drawer or glove box without training with it. They will not be competent with it or respect the deadly power of the weapon they bought. Or as I think recently happened again, a child found the gun in the car and shot themselves.
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RJB said:
The reason we don't speak French is because the English mandated ownership of weapons.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ent-and-the-English-longbow&highlight=longbow
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It seems like they we're well regulated or mandated to train and be proficient. Mabye gun owners in America should be trained under programs directed by their Governor or sheriffs.

I'm not sure how often the English had to deal with unstable people back in the day or even people vwho we're simply unskilled with using a bow.

Also, the Longbow is a much different type of weapon that require more skill to even use it. I think its unlikely any kid has killed themselves or a sibling accidentally with a long bow. Long bows are not exactly compact or easier ly concealed like a pistol with a.
 
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VIDEODROME said:
It seems like they we're well regulated or mandated to train and be proficient. Mabye gun owners in America should be trained under programs directed by their Governor or sheriffs.

I'm not sure how often the English had to deal with unstable people back in the day or even people vwho we're simply unskilled with using a bow.
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One would have to have faith in government and fellow man to join such a militia. I, sadmittedly, do not.
 
Even in that example, there was a careful balance of power between armed citizens and their baron who was directed to provide a militia, but did not want that militia to turn on them.

It would be interesting if such a program could Foster Citizen and Government partnership and cooperation and less hostility between them.
 
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AngryCanadian said:
Another Gun Related NONE ISIS related.




Daughter was killed mother got injured. He was a law abiding citzen till he was starting to hear crazy thoughts that he was getting mind controlled. Either way there has to be some form of gun laws adding more fuel wont stop such tragedies.
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Did you even read your own link? The person had a concealed carry permit which means gun laws don't work! Seriously think this through. This person went through a background check and passed. He wasn't wielding some scare semi automatic assault rifle. It was a handgun. So unless you're talking about banning all guns for all people, are argument is just plain stupid. And of course you don't post stories were someone goes crazy with a car and runs people over. You don't because you know that would destroy your own argument.
 
alucard13mm said:
The french banned guns. Only gun you can get is a shotgun for hunting

French still had mass shootings. Charlie and the recent ones. If we ban guns in usa, bad guys will still get guns. How? Look towards the southern border. Drugs and people can easily be snuck in... surely firearms can be snuck in as well. There will be a black market for guns.
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^This
 
AngryCanadian said:
I lost a family member due to Gun related shooting in America. But no doubt you sound just like Trump :rolleyes:
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I've lost multiple friends to drowning. Ban swimming? I lost friend when his private airplane malfunctioned, he had to crash land and it caught on fire. Ban private airplanes? I lost friends when a semi-truck crashed into their car. Ban trucks?
 
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VIDEODROME said:
Even in that example, there was a careful balance of power between armed citizens and their baron who was directed to provide a militia, but did not want that militia to turn on them.

It would be interesting if such a program could Foster Citizen and Government partnership and cooperation and hostility between them.
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If they started a government sponsored/mandated citizen militia tomorrow I would run as far away as fast as I could. Not under the current government. It would be nothing other than an intel gathering expedition by the state and the Fed.
 
jmdrake said:
I've lost multiple friends to drowning. Ban swimming? I lost friend when his private airplane malfunctioned, he had to crash land and it caught on fire. Ban private airplanes? I lost friends when a semi-truck crashed into their car. Ban trucks?
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I'd like the government to ban cancer and heart attacks.
 
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