45 years in jail time for voluntary bartering!

[HOLLYWOOD]

We cannot have competition with our FIAT Inflation inducing monopoly money.

The JURY needs to be very well educated by the defense attorneys, IF, the Corrupt and Dictating Judicial system will even allow them to speak on the subject.

Ashville, NC doesn't seem to be a very well informed region on the Empire of Lies and government.

 

[Cowlesy]

Bernard Von NotHaus is great --- I hope he gets out of it this somehow.

 

[Imperial]

Deleted- accidentally posted twice.

 

[jkr]

can some one explain to me how these things are ANY different than tokens at showbiz pizza place / chuck E cheese?

or skeetball tickets?

or manufacturer coupons?

 

[Dr.3D]

can some one explain to me how these things are ANY different than tokens at showbiz pizza place / chuck E cheese?

or skeetball tickets?

or manufacturer coupons?

They aren't much different. The biggest difference is that they are made of something of value.

 

[NorwegianLibertarian]

45 years in prison for following the Constitution. Help us all...

 

[JoshLowry]

Am I still dreaming?

Somebody pinch me!

 

[Imperial]

United States Attorney's Office
Western District of North Carolina
Contact: (704) 344-6222

That's the contact provided on the press release...

 

[acptulsa]

can some one explain to me how these things are ANY different than tokens at showbiz pizza place / chuck E cheese?

or skeetball tickets?

or manufacturer coupons?

The word 'dollar'.

Well, there is the Hong Kong Dollar, Australian Dollar and the Canadian Dollar etc. The United States doesn't have a copyright on the word Dollar.

They don't need a copyright. They can overstuff the hell out of other parts of the legal code when copyright law doesn't screw things up enough to suit them.

 

[JoshLowry]

The word 'dollar'.

What about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_dollar

Many countries use that word.

 

[Bryan]

You have to read carefully- the charges are (per the piece) "charged with uttering and passing coins resembling genuine U.S. coins and intended for use as money, mail fraud and selling and possessing Liberty Dollar coins with intent to defraud."

So the claim isn't so much that they had them or using then as much as it is how it was claimed they were using them, ie: trying to defraud people.

So the question is- what is the states evidence that they were being dishonest with intent to defraud others with their use? What exactly did they say?

Obviously this smells bad.

 

[acptulsa]

What about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_dollar

Many countries use that word.

Other countries don't count. As for Disney Dollars, dollars-off coupons, and such, yeah, I know.

So the question is- what is the states evidence that they were being dishonest with intent to defraud others with their use? What exactly did they say?

Obviously this smells bad.

Well, they certainly weren't advocating spending them at face value! Yeah, it smells awful. Wonder if we can circulate that smell around the public a bit, and see if we can get a little outrage going. If nothing else, we could well remind the most ignorant how to avoid having their cash shrink in their pockets. That will soon be very useful information.

 

[jkr]

square coins...
less wasted material therfore more inheriant value
NO resembalnace to curant currancy
ftFED

 

[Carole]

LOL

"“People understand that there is only one legal currency in the United States,” said Owen Harris, special agent in charge of the Charlotte office of the FBI. “When groups try to replace the U.S. dollar with coins and bills that don't hold the same value, it affects the economy"

You can say that again Mr. Fiat-FBI guy.


"Von NotHaus' organization said in 2006 that more than $20 million worth of Liberty Dollar coins and notes were in circulation. Congress has exclusive power to coin money in the U.S. and to regulate its value, according to the Treasury Department."

What a joke! So will somebody please make Congress do its job???????????????????????

 

[Dr.3D]

Other countries don't count. As for Disney Dollars, dollars-off coupons, and such, yeah, I know.



Well, they certainly weren't advocating spending them at face value! Yeah, it smells awful. Wonder if we can circulate that smell around the public a bit, and see if we can get a little outrage going. If nothing else, we could well remind the most ignorant how to avoid having their cash shrink in their pockets. That will soon be very useful information.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/letterdefiningmoney28dec07.shtml

 

[Njon]

Digg it: http://digg.com/politics/Federal_Government_Goes_After_the_Liberty_Dollar

 

[rp4prez]

I would pay worthless FED notes to be on this jury!!! Can you imagine! hehe

 

[Valli6]

Detention hearing is Monday morning

We need a thousand people in front of that courthouse protesting until he is released.

Anyone around the Charlotte, NC area this coming Monday 6/8/02?
"Innes was ordered detained pending a detention hearing which is now set for Monday, June 8, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. before Magistrate Judge David Cayer in the federal courthouse in Charlotte, North Carolina."
http://charlotte.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2009/ce060309.htm

 

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

Many of us met Kevin last summer at the "doings" here in Minnesota. One of the nicest guys you will ever meet. (trying to defraud. . . HA!) Is there any way for us to help? Chipin for legal fees? Ronvoy to the hearing? Anything?

 

[Dr.3D]

Many of us met Kevin last summer at the "doings" here in Minnesota. One of the nicest guys you will ever meet. (trying to defraud. . . HA!) Is there any way for us to help? Chipin for legal fees? Ronvoy to the hearing? Anything?

If you read this news letter, you will see what is being asked for.
http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/pr_nl/06_04_2009.htm