40 Tons of GMO Crops TORCHED in America, Media Blackout

[Orgoonian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ

 

[puppetmaster]

Cows shouldn't eat the seed of a grass?

do you raise cattle? I bet Not. I do, and they naturally do not eat corn in a natural environment. Sure they can but it is not what is best for them or humans.

it is like a candy bar to us......not really good for us but we like em.

 

[KEEF]

Genetically modified (as in BT corn or other) cattle don't exist outside a lab. They certainly don't exist in our food supply. It will be decades before they are FDA approved to be in the food chain. Cattle given free choice to eat grains, grass, hay etc will eat grain as part of their diet. A cow will eat what it needs. If its deficient in a mineral it will seek said mineral out and lick a rock if it needs to. Cows rumens are most certainly designed to eat grass.......where the heck do you think grains come from? Highly modified grasses (modified since the beginning of time)

What you're GMO blogging buddy that filled you full of crap didn't tell you is that a cow can't digest corn if its not cracked. If its cracked its just fine. They point to your own bowel movements after you've eaten corn and said SEE!!!! You can't digest corn!!! What you see in your own crap is the outside of the seed undigested filled with whatever the heck else is in your GI tract. In a cow they can consume and grow just fine on corn. However, what your blog buddy has told you is that they put these animals into a confined space and practically IV corn into their blood system. This is also a partial truth. Most commercially grown cattle are grass fed (open range or pasture) for the bulk of their life. Towards the end they are brought into a feed lot and pushed grains to fatten them up. This raises the fat content of the meat which increases flavor. It adds marble to your beef cuts to improve grilling etc etc etc.

Why are most cattle raised open range and then pushed grain at the end? MONEY. You get the best rate of gain grown on grass (sometimes supplemented with some grains) and then feeder lot'ed at the end...............you know either that or farmers are mad scientist just trying to screw with your digestion tract.

Here is what I know, not from a blog, it is what I know.
With a typical concentrated animal feeding operation, a calf gets to spend roughly 6 months on open pasture until it is put into a feed lot and then slaughtered by the time it is 14 months old. Going from 80 to 1100 pounds in 14 months with corn, protein supplements, fat supplements, and an arsenal of drugs.

See, cows are foregut fermenters and so like any ruminant, grass is broken down in the gut, converted into nitrogen, and then this nitrogen is absorbed by the body in the colon and then converted into proteins. Humans are somewhat opposite in that we break down and absorb protein right at the stomach.

At the feed lot, the cow gets fed a mixture of liquefied fats that sometimes comes in the form of beef tallow from a nearby slaughter house and protein supplements made from molasses and urea, liquid vitamins and synthetic estrogen, the antibiotics Rumensin and Tylosin, along with alfalfa and silage, and yes, cracked corn.

Corn got onto the cow's menu because, yes, price, but also USDA policy that helped move mountains of surplus corn by passing it through digestive tracts of food animals that can convert it into proteins.

As for GMO cows, yes it is called selective breeding. Cattle are bred to do well in feedyards. The cattle that are selected and bred are the ones that have the genetic ability to eat a large quantity of corn and efficiently convert it into protein without getting too sick. For cattle, when they are fed too much corn, bloat is one of the most serious things that can go wrong with the cow because the fermentation in rumens produce a ton of gas that is expelled through burps. When these cows are fed too much starch, like with corn, rumination all but stops and a layer of slime forms in the rumen which traps the gas. The rumen then inflates like a balloon until it presses against the lungs and if left untreated can lead to suffocation.

Another issue with a concentrated corn diet is acidosis. This is a result of the corn diet making their GI tracks acidic; unlike a human's stomach that has a acidic stomach, cows and other rumens work best with a neutral pH. Overtime, the acid eats away at the rumen wall allowing bacteria to enter the bloodstream and then resides in the liver. To prevent the bacteria from causing abscessed livers, the cows get the anitbiotics. Rumensin buffers acidity, and Tylosin lowers the risk of liver infection.

On a side note to that, most antibiotics sold in America today end up in feed lots. So not only does Monsanto get a big piece of the pie, so too does big pharmaceutical.

 

[jbauer]

do you raise cattle? I bet Not. I do, and they naturally do not eat corn in a natural environment. Sure they can but it is not what is best for them or humans.

it is like a candy bar to us......not really good for us but we like em.

Yes I do. Grew up on a dairy farm. Raised steers our whole lives. Nothing eats corn in a natural environment. Did you miss the 10,000 years of plant breeding that it took to get corn from a simple grass to what it is today? Corn is nothing more than a C4 plant. Its grown because its extremely productive and can handle a fairly wide type of climates. Nothing more nothing less. If corn were less, then it wouldn't be used so widely in nearly everything we buy today.

Did you miss my: Cattle will eat what they need? Ours pasture with free choice grain (including corn). A cow will balance their diet to take in the nutrients it needs to grow. Some of that includes the starchy portion of the corn seed.

 

[jbauer]

Here is what I know, not from a blog, it is what I know.

Where did you learn this? The internet or in person?

With a typical concentrated animal feeding operation, a calf gets to spend roughly 6 months on open pasture until it is put into a feed lot and then slaughtered by the time it is 14 months old. Going from 80 to 1100 pounds in 14 months with corn, protein supplements, fat supplements, and an arsenal of drugs.

That's not what I've seen done. I'll remind you that I grew up on a dairy farm. I live in cattle country were I live now. Cattle that are raised "out on the range" can expect a life expectancy of 18ish months. Typically the last 2-4 months are spent in a feed lot. The first 12ish or so are spent eating grasses in your western and southern, limited NE and central Eastern states. In the Midwestern you typically will find them on some sort of pasture with free range gains. I would expect a calf/cow to go from 80 to 1000+ pounds in its year of growth similar to what I'd expect my child to go from 6 pounds to 20ish in a year. That's how they grow. A cow is fully mature at roughly 20-24 months of age.

See, cows are foregut fermenters and so like any ruminant, grass is broken down in the gut, converted into nitrogen, and then this nitrogen is absorbed by the body in the colon and then converted into proteins. Humans are somewhat opposite in that we break down and absorb protein right at the stomach.

At the feed lot, the cow gets fed a mixture of liquefied fats that sometimes comes in the form of beef tallow from a nearby slaughter house and protein supplements made from molasses and urea, liquid vitamins and synthetic estrogen, the antibiotics Rumensin and Tylosin, along with alfalfa and silage, and yes, cracked corn.

It is my understanding that it is still illegal to feed like animal to like animal as you're describing. You could however feed blood/bone meal etc to cross species. They do this to prevent diseases. I've personally not seen liquefied fat fed to any animal. It wouldn't work out so well. The fat would certainly cause the cow to move their bowels more rapidly and thus would decrease the rate of absorption. I'm sure its been done before. I'd require an insane amount of fiber to slow the digestion down. I could ask my sister she's an dairy animal nutritionist. Molasses isn't used for protein, its used to make some feed more palatable. Usually in younger stock. You wouldn't give estrogen to a production animal. Steroids are illegal if that where you were going. Antibiotics are used probably more then I care to know about. However, they cost money and should only be used when an animal is sick. Follow the money

Corn got onto the cow's menu because, yes, price, but also USDA policy that helped move mountains of surplus corn by passing it through digestive tracts of food animals that can convert it into proteins.

As for GMO cows, yes it is called selective breeding. Cattle are bred to do well in feedyards. The cattle that are selected and bred are the ones that have the genetic ability to eat a large quantity of corn and efficiently convert it into protein without getting too sick. For cattle, when they are fed too much corn, bloat is one of the most serious things that can go wrong with the cow because the fermentation in rumens produce a ton of gas that is expelled through burps. When these cows are fed too much starch, like with corn, rumination all but stops and a layer of slime forms in the rumen which traps the gas. The rumen then inflates like a balloon until it presses against the lungs and if left untreated can lead to suffocation.

Any cow I've seen that has bloated has bloated because they've eaten to much protein or to "hot" of green grass such as clover in the morning. I've yet to see a cow fed corn bloat because of corn. Has it happened I'm sure it has. Not something I've seen.

Another issue with a concentrated corn diet is acidosis. This is a result of the corn diet making their GI tracks acidic; unlike a human's stomach that has a acidic stomach, cows and other rumens work best with a neutral pH. Overtime, the acid eats away at the rumen wall allowing bacteria to enter the bloodstream and then resides in the liver. To prevent the bacteria from causing abscessed livers, the cows get the anitbiotics. Rumensin buffers acidity, and Tylosin lowers the risk of liver infection.

On a side note to that, most antibiotics sold in America today end up in feed lots. So not only does Monsanto get a big piece of the pie, so too does big pharmaceutical.

Again, I've seen acidosis in cattle but only on a highly rare occasion. Certainly not something that could be said to be the normal life of a cow. Most of about anything sold today is sold by subsidiaries of large corporations like Monsanto or nearly every other big boy. We didn't and don't mass antibiotic. Its a waste of money. Its going to have a holding period where the animal can't be slaughtered prior to "leaving" the system.

You certainly didn't pull that out of your ass like most people do on message boards. Cattle are raised significantly different throughout the states. I've seen it done in several regions but not every one. My experiences come from raising cattle myself as well as a whole family that has and does. My degree is in agriculture but not in beef production so there are certainly limits to my knowledge base. I would guess I know more about it than your average person who's watched a few docudramas on youtube. You're painting a picture that is entirely different than what I've seen or done in the past 30 years. So past that we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[KEEF]

Again, I've seen acidosis in cattle but only on a highly rare occasion. Certainly not something that could be said to be the normal life of a cow. Most of about anything sold today is sold by subsidiaries of large corporations like Monsanto or nearly every other big boy. We didn't and don't mass antibiotic. Its a waste of money. Its going to have a holding period where the animal can't be slaughtered prior to "leaving" the system.

You certainly didn't pull that out of your ass like most people do on message boards. Cattle are raised significantly different throughout the states. I've seen it done in several regions but not every one. My experiences come from raising cattle myself as well as a whole family that has and does. My degree is in agriculture but not in beef production so there are certainly limits to my knowledge base. I would guess I know more about it than your average person who's watched a few docudramas on youtube. You're painting a picture that is entirely different than what I've seen or done in the past 30 years. So past that we'll have to agree to disagree.

Hey jbauer,

No sweat, I agree with you to agree to disagree. To answer your first question about learning this online or in person, most was in person. I am just a lonely biology professor that has taken his fair share of courses in mammalogy, animal nutrition, animal physiology, have done work with animal nutrition (although most of my research is in the aquatic macroinvertebrate diet field), gut bomb calorimetry, etc.

 

[pcosmar]

On a side note to that, most antibiotics sold in America today end up in feed lots. So not only does Monsanto get a big piece of the pie, so too does big pharmaceutical.

Who says they are not one and the same. A collusion, A beneficial partnership, A shell game.???

For one,, I am not cattle.. And don't appreciate being treated like one.

 

[tod evans]

We always keep our feeder cows in a stall for 90 days prior to butchering, fed hay from the same pasture they grazed and cracked corn morning and night.

Never had one bloat or get sick.

And I'm short the degree that says I know anything about it.:o

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

The gov has now signed into law a bill that protects Monsanto from being sued:

“The provision would strip federal courts of the authority to halt the sale and planting of an illegal, potentially hazardous GE crop while the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) assesses those potential hazards,” dozens of farmers wrote the House of Representatives before the bill was passed in March. “Further, it would compel USDA to allow continued planting of that same crop upon request, even if in the course of its assessment the Department finds that it poses previously unrecognized risks.”

The new law does not really do what you claim it does. It does not "protect Monsanto from being sued". That is just false propaganda circulated by communist Occupy and bullshit Mother Earth blogs.

The text you quote describes a law that simply prevents courts from stopping the sale of products under investigation or found "risky". We already know that cars, cigarettes, large sodas, and x-ray machines are risky; would you want the government to halt their sale too?

It would seem that so-called Liberty lovers would not be supportive of a questionable food product that is being forced upon the whole world.

This liberty lover hasn't had any food forced on him, so he can only wonder who you think you are fooling.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

they don't let you know which products are Monsanto's

That is just false propaganda circulated by communist Occupy and bullshit Mother Earth blogs.

What is really going on here:...

Whose fault is it that they did not take 3 minutes to Google?

 

[BAllen]

The farmer is allowed to use Monsanto seeds if he wants, it's not illegal.

This is destruction of private property and the arsonists need to be punished.

Legal or not, these are the repercussions for using seeds by monsanto. Remember, they charge farmers who do not even want their seeds, if the bees happen to pollinate their crops. Farmers that use these seeds get no sympathy from me, either. They are traitors to the farmers who don't want them.

 

[Natural Citizen]

This liberty lover hasn't had any food forced on him, so he can only wonder who you think you are fooling.

Hm. Back at it again, huh?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Hm. Back at it again, huh?

Back at what?

I'm just going to use this handy dandy ignore feature with you.

Really you will do the exact opposite.

 

[liberty2897]

Back at what?

I'll take a shot at replying to this even though it is not addressed to me. I've been impressed with more than one post of yours due to the very personal nature and the experience that went along with it. You have very strong viewpoints and you make them known. I think the thing that is being referred to here with the "back at it" comment, is that you tend to post the same viewpoint over and over just for the sake of arguing it seems (especially in that GMO debate from a while back). This tends to clutter up a thread with a redundant viewpoint and also annoys many people. Sometimes it is better to say what you have to say and then move on. Just my opinion. I'm probably not one to talk..
Peace.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

I'll take a shot at replying to this even though it is not addressed to me. I've been impressed with more than one post of yours due to the very personal nature and the experience that went along with it. You have very strong viewpoints and you make them known. I think the thing that is being referred to here with the "back at it" comment, is that you tend to post the same viewpoint over and over

I do that in response to the the same opposing viewpoint being posted over and over, you mean?

just for the sake of arguing it seems (especially in that GMO debate from a while back).

Your perception is totally off. If you devote yourself to trying to read my mind based on what you see on your screen, that's on you. Thousands have tried. Several have ended up dead of self-inflicted gunshots. Good luck.

This tends to clutter up a thread with a redundant viewpoint and also annoys many people. Sometimes it is better to say what you have to say and then move on. Just my opinion. I'm probably not one to talk..
Peace.

I can't help anyone who is annoyed but fails to use the ignore-function. Added to my sig-line. Use it, or forever hold your peace about my being annoying clutter.

 

[liberty2897]

Thousands have tried. Several have ended up dead of self-inflicted gunshots. Good luck.

I don't understand your apparent animosity toward people here, but whatever. I don't add anybody to the ignore list, but that will be my last reply to you. Good luck yourself.

 

[KEEF]

Who says they are not one and the same. A collusion, A beneficial partnership, A shell game.???

For one,, I am not cattle.. And don't appreciate being treated like one.

Oh I am sure that they are.

 

[donnay]

The new law does not really do what you claim it does. It does not "protect Monsanto from being sued". That is just false propaganda circulated by communist Occupy and bullshit Mother Earth blogs.

You're much more naïve than I thought. Put in your search engine: "H.R. 933 - Section 735 - Monsanto Protection Act." It was the Fascist who signed it.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

your apparent animosity toward people here

Your perception is way off again.

I don't understand

If you devote yourself to trying to read my mind based on what you see on your screen, that's on you. Seems like a foolish undertaking, and kind of gay too.

 

[FrankRep]

You're much more naïve than I thought. Put in your search engine: "H.R. 933 - Section 735 - Monsanto Protection Act." It was the Fascist who signed it.

Here is the actual text of H.R. 933 - Section 735

Sec. 735. In the event that a determination of non-regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary permit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to necessary and appropriate conditions consistent with section 411(a)* or 412(c)** of the Plant Protection Act, which interim conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, continued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically enumerated activities and requirements, including measures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse environmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s evaluation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensuring that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cultivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other authorized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period necessary for the Secretary to complete any required analyses or consultations related to the petition for non-regulated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.​

TITLE IV—PLANT PROTECTION ACT

SEC. 411. REGULATION OF MOVEMENT OF PLANT PESTS.

(a) PROHIBITION OF UNAUTHORIZED MOVEMENT OF PLANT PESTS
.—Except as provided in subsection (c), no person shall import, enter, export, or move in interstate commerce any plant pest, unless the importation, entry, exportation, or movement is authorized under general or specific permit and is in accordance with such regulations as the Secretary may issue to prevent the introduction of plant pests into the United States or the dissemination of plant pests within the United States.

SEC. 412. REGULATION OF MOVEMENT OF PLANTS, PLANT PRODUCTS, BIOLOGICAL CONTROL ORGANISMS, NOXIOUS WEEDS, ARTICLES, AND MEANS OF CONVEYANCE.

(c) REGULATIONS
.—The Secretary may issue regulations to implement subsection (a), including regulations requiring that any plant, plant product, biological control organism, noxious weed, article, or means of conveyance imported, entered, to be exported, or moved in interstate commerce—

(1) be accompanied by a permit issued by the Secretary prior to the importation, entry, exportation, or movement in interstate commerce;
(2) be accompanied by a certificate of inspection issued (in a manner and form required by the Secretary) by appropriate officials of the country or State from which the plant, plant product, biological control organism, noxious weed, article, or means of conveyance is to be moved;
(3) be subject to remedial measures the Secretary determines to be necessary to prevent the spread of plant pests or noxious weeds; and
(4) with respect to plants or biological control organisms, be grown or handled under post-entry quarantine conditions by or under the supervision of the Secretary for the purposes of determining whether the plant or biological control organism may be infested with plant pests or may be a plant pest or noxious weed.​