3" of snow in Louisiana

Send some our way. California is only at 20% of normal snowpack which is the major source of water. We are responsible for something like half of the fresh fruits and vegetables grown in this country and farmers are being told they will only get five percent of the water allocation they are requesting. Climate change is hitting us pretty hard here this year. Food supplies will be greatly reduced and prices a lot higher if things don't change (and it isn't expected to).

http://unofficialnetworks.com/nasa-shows-bad-california-drought-127886/

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So when it's cold, we can't say global warming is bullshit. But when it's warm and dry, it's totally okay for you to say, "Climate change is hitting us hard this year."
 
There must be. 12° in NC feels a lot colder than 12° in Wisconsin, which in turn feels a lot colder than 12° in Montana, which in turn feels a lot colder than 12° in Wyoming. What else but humidity could account for that?

I trust all your data is accurate, and that the "feeling" you refer to isn't completely subjective?
 
Humidity does make a big difference in how hot or cold it feels- the moisture in the air more readily transfers the heat or cold to your body. 90 degrees in Arizona is not as uncomfortable as 90 degrees in Chicago. Dry heat doesn't feel nearly as hot as the same temperature with high humidity- ditto for cold. Damp cold soaks into you more.

But how does the humidity stay melted for temps below freezing?
 
But how does the humidity stay melted for temps below freezing?

The key term is "relative humidity". It is a measure of how much water the air can contain at a given temperature- at a lower temperature, air can hold less water. 50% humidity means that the amount of water in the air is half of the maximum it can contain at that temperature. http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/meteorological-terms/question651.htm

If you can't have any humidity below freezing how do you get snow? One answer to your question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091231182417AAw01dJ
Absolute humidity is the volume of water that is contained in a volume of air. The higher the temperature, the greater the volume of water it can contain. For example, at the average temperature at sea level and average pressure, of 15 C, a cubic meter of air can't contain more than 13 grams of water. When that happens, the air is saturated with moisture and the relative humidity is 100 percent. When the temperature goes down to 0 C (freezing point) the air can sustain only 5 gr/m3. The absolute humidity is then 5 gr/m3 but the relative one is still 100 percent because at saturation point, a.k.a. dew point temperature.

What happens when the temperature sinks below dew point? Well, the parcel of air has to get rid of some of its moisture by condensing it into tiny water droplets. But that can only happen by giving away energy in form of heat and the tiny molecules have virtually no mass to dissipate that heat energy. They have to touch anything like a dust, smoke particle, pollen or the bonnet of your car, to condense. Likewise, it must give heat energy to go from liquid to solid and that's why you can get tiny drops of water, in the clouds, that are under-cooled all the way down to -40 C!

Incidentally, when water goes from solid to liquid (melt) or liquid to gas (evaporates) it needs to take energy in form of heat and that's why we sweat; its evaporation cools down our skin.

So, when the temperature falls below freezing point, the water molecules in form of gas or vapour can't turn into liquid or solid before it touches something. And that's why you can observe ice rims on the branches of a tree, early in the morning, when the heat of the ground has radiated back into space, during the night, and the surface temperature has fallen under freezing point: the tiny gas molecules turn directly into ice crystal as they touch something with a mass.
 
Actually, if it's too dry in your home in the winter, it will feel cooler than if you increase the humidity. This is because the dry air causes the moisture on your skin to evaporate and cool you even more.
 
So when it's cold, we can't say global warming is bullshit. But when it's warm and dry, it's totally okay for you to say, "Climate change is hitting us hard this year."

Actually we can't say climate change is or isn't happening based on any of those observation. Since weather is variable, we have to look at it over long periods of time. Even a decade is too short to be able to say anything for certain about climate change. And changing climates effect different areas differently. Some may get hotter, some colder.

Those who point out cold winter weather must disprove global warming are somehow silent during heatwaves. If their storms are proof climate change isn't happening then the heatwaves must also be proof that it is happening. So who is right?
 
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Actually, if it's too dry in your home in the winter, it will feel cooler than if you increase the humidity. This is because the dry air causes the moisture on your skin to evaporate and cool you even more.

That's correct, and the primary reason is actually because you are heating your home, and the dry air does not conduct heat as well as moist air. I run electric heat, and when it gets too cold and the heat cranks up I will boil a bunch of water to make the heat more effective.
 
Actually we can't say climate change is or isn't happening

Blaa blaa blah!

The climate changes day to day,, and has done so for thousands of years.

The Global Warming/Climate Change BULLSHIT is nothing but scam.
 
The key term is "relative humidity". It is a measure of how much water the air can contain at a given temperature- at a lower temperature, air can hold less water. 50% humidity means that the amount of water in the air is half of the maximum it can contain at that temperature. http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/meteorological-terms/question651.htm

If you can't have any humidity below freezing how do you get snow? One answer to your question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091231182417AAw01dJ

Snow is already frozen. My point was that, if the air is so cold, then you would expect any water in the atmosphere to turn to ice. If the only water in the air is ice, is it still considered humidity? I think of humidity as steam or tiny droplets of liquid water in the atmosphere, but it seems like if it turned to ice, then it wouldn't affect people in the same way. Having little droplets of ice hit your skin doesn't have the same effect as little droplets of liquid water.
 
Actually we can't say climate change is or isn't happening based on any of those observation. Since weather is variable, we have to look at it over long periods of time. Even a decade is too short to be able to say anything for certain about climate change. And changing climates effect different areas differently. Some may get hotter, some colder.

Those who point out cold winter weather must disprove global warming are somehow silent during heatwaves. If their storms are proof climate change isn't happening then the heatwaves must also be proof that it is happening. So who is right?

Right, the point being that you totally just said, "climate change is hitting us hard this year!"

Do you not see the double standard there? You preach to us about the variability of weather, and then you tell us that "climate change" is affecting YOU a certain way in your area.

You say "Those who point out cold winter weather must disprove global warming is some how silent during heatwaves" and yet, you feel completely free to point out that the weather in your area is due to the overall trend of "climate change" when it could just be variable weather like you said.

It's a clear-cut double standard and you somehow glossed right over it while continuing to preach to me in all your hypocrisy.
 
Snow is already frozen. My point was that, if the air is so cold, then you would expect any water in the atmosphere to turn to ice. If the only water in the air is ice, is it still considered humidity? I think of humidity as steam or tiny droplets of liquid water in the atmosphere, but it seems like if it turned to ice, then it wouldn't affect people in the same way. Having little droplets of ice hit your skin doesn't have the same effect as little droplets of liquid water.

You are pretty much the only person [ETA: from a cold state] I have ever met who thinks that subfreezing air automatically renders all the water in it into ice. Suspended water vapor in air can go as cold as -40°F without being forced to precipitate out as ice.
 
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