$23 Million for What? More crap ads?

[deedles]

Of course I haven't thought of that! *smacks head* /sarcasm

The campaign rarely listens to dissenters. Or else I wouldn't be so damn frustrated

Maybe going out and knocking on some doors and handing out some literature and telling people about Dr. Paul would help you vent some frustration....

 

[deedles]

I received the same email that most of you received and I will post my response below. Do you folks realize the seriousness of what is at stake here?


Folks, as you know, we are in a war with the MSM and the neocons. They control how much free access we have in the press on the national level. With that in mind, I urge you to seek Federal matching funds. If Ron Paul had received equal free access in the MSM I would not be suggesting this. We can use those funds to try and de-program the public. The massive propaganda used by the neocons to brainwash the public following 9/11 is staggering.

I see this election as a life or death struggle for Democracy in this country. If Ron Paul does not win this election then the Elite power brokers will consolidate their power and we will never have another chance to take our country back at the ballot box in a peaceful revolution.

Neoconservative is just another name for Fascism. Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism.

I will be donating another 100 dollars tomorrow but that will max be out.

Regards

Charles F. Wilson

P.S. After watching part of the interview between Tim Russert and Huckabee this morning I realize that Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag carrying a cross. I am a born again Christian and know a phony when I see one. It appears that Huckabee was coached. Tim Russert threw him soft balls and coddled him -- Huckabee is their man!

You are 100% right. We are going to have to make up for what the campaign isn't going to get from the MSM. They've drawn the line, we only need to see it for ourselves. Everytime they try to marginalize him, he gains support. I think they've finally seen that the only thing that works is to absolutely ignore him. Black-balled. It's analagous to the old soviets air-brushing people out of books and pictures. Gone.

I will donate everything I can.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

Can the campaign hire Edward Tufte?
http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/

 

[gb13]

And, since this is a criticism of the official campaign, this thread will be moved to hot topics, or some other "free speech zone".

Geez, between the "terrorist nations" (whatever happened to "terrorism is a tactic"?), the expensive bureaucratic incompetence, and the herd mentality, this campaign looks each time more like the things we are supposed to be fighting.

Shut the fuck up. You sound like a complete moron. The heard mentality is rampant, but it is limited to those of you, yourself included, who jump down the campaign's throat every time they do some minuscule thing you don't like.

I can't believe a matter of word-choice has divided us to this degree. This fucking revolution doesn't need a bunch of high-schoolesque drama.

If you don't like RP anymore due to the wording of a millisecond phrase in one thirty second ad, get the fuck out.

Get over yourselves.

 

[JimDude]

I think this is a fundamental flaw of the campaign. A lot of people have even said, winning is pretty much on the shoulders of the grassroots, yet, who is getting all the money? The offical campaign is!!

The Offical campaign has fallen short on numerous occassions. If we made a mistake, it was thinking HQ would somehow use it's money wisely. Despite mistakes they've made, people kept giving. Frankly, the campaign itself probably should of never tried to do anything, instead they should of leaned on their greatest tool, the grassroots. But instead, grassroots were often only mentioned as statistics or numbers. There needed to more cooperation between us and them. The best ads I ever saw were on Youtube. Not just 9 minutes, but excellent 30 second ads that actually appealed to people. There is a lot of creativity and intelligent in the grassroots, but it was rarely if ever utilized.

Just look at other campaigns, they've all made numberous mistakes and have done worst things than ours have. What were we thinking? We were all duped in believing that somehow the RP HQ would be perfect and do everything right, but we were wrong.

I think if there was a good offical campaign in the whole race, is was Mike Huckabee's. He had less 1/4 the money we have, yet with the little money he had, he managed to make excellent ads with Chuck Norris and suddenly, he shot up in the polls, and He got 10x more coverage than we did. That is EXACTLY what we needed to do, not use chuck norris, but come up with ad that was gonna get people to vote for us. There was a massive opportunity for us to take back our country, but we simply never came together to make a ad good enough.

 

[twdahm]

i like the immigration ad i thinks it great.

 

[amistybleu]

This is absolutely ridiculous, The President of the USA has a duty to protect the citizens of this nation and if there is a Country that has active terrorist cells within it's borders and that country is not destroying those cells then extending stundent visas to that country would be foolish. Any American, and rightfully so would be outraged if they had a family member killed by someone who recieved a student visa from a country that harbors or supports terrorist groups.

#1 is protecting American's

#2 is whatever else may be on the table

I think I speak for the majority here when I say we all want legal Immigration and the ability of forthright students to come here for an education but it MUST be handled in a manner that best meets the protection of Americans.

Illegal Immigration in this country has acconted for over 48,000 American deaths and our current President could give a rats ass, RP on the other hand would put American safety, American, Jobs, American prosperity, above all else.

This really cant be a problem, can it?

I assume you want to be safe in your own nation, So how does extending student visas to a Nation that has people in it that wish to kill Americans protect your security.

 

[Corydoras]

Ron Paul has never equated terrorism with nations. That's the Bush doctrine.

It's the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961.

 

[speciallyblend]

then produce your own ad and fund it,pretty simple

 

[FreedomLover]

This is a dumb thread. Just because you didn't like one phrase in an ad targeted at iowa republicans, you throw a tantrum.

 

[smartpeople4ronpaul]

Admitted, the ads got off to a bad start, but they've been getting a lot better. I think they're finally (FINALLY) hitting their stride.

I agree.

 

[tamor]

You will never agree with HQ 100% of the time, none of us will. Remember their goal is not to make everyone happy. It is to get Ron Paul elected. Sometimes we have a limited view of things, but HQ sees the whole picture better than we do. But, if you can do better, make your own ads, pay for them, and get them on the air. Oh yeah, be sure to research your audience so you get the result you want.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

the official campaign eats baby fetuses and drinks the blood of virgins

Dude theyve done a great job with radio and many TV ads. Their first couple ads sucked, but since the first few its been mostly effective ads, but the most important thing about them is theyve gotten his name and message out, and in a place like Iowa its really paid off!
Rather than complaining about the official campaign, and rather than donating your money to it, donate your time to the grassroots by writing letters: http://www.louislogan.com/letters/index.asp , going door to door, talking to everyone you know, getting apathetic friends to register to vote for Ron Paul just "as a friend" and promise youll smoke them up on an eighth, buy them a night of beers, or take them to a strip club, if they help you out by voting for ron paul. Do whatever you can to get votes.

 

[Alex Stern]

deleted.

 

[Paulinista4TW]

ONE WORD! One word people are complaining about and they could have changed it to hostile nations or unfriendly nations. And we are NOT gong to shut up and sit down. I have also put and arm and a leg into the "official" campaign and I'm not going to sit quietly while they turn Ron into the candidate of fear instead of the candidate of hope. Upsetting 40% of Ron's hardcore supporters because of ONE WORD is not worth it. Lets see how this effects the New Years mini-bomb.

 

[Ruby Justice]

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[DarkReign]

The problem here is that anyone who criticizes the campaign in any way, or suggests an alternative option to something is automatically labeled as a troll, and ignored. But they're just trying to help! C'mon, you sound like nationalists who yell at those who criticize the government for doing a bad job on something.

Nothing will get done if we don't listen to those with the complaints, and FIX them!


The ADS suck!

Name ONE person you know that became a Paul supporter after seeing an ad on TV. One.

And be honest, don't make up names, because I want to see what the effectiveness of these ADS is.