$23 Million for What? More crap ads?

[takadi]

I personally am not too upset by this.

What I'm upset about is that it'll piss off potential independent votes and cross-over votes, especially the ones who already hopped on the bandwagon. I've witnessed 4 supporters already "withdraw" their support until they dropped this ad.

Yes it'll get the six pack joe's vote, but at what cost?

 

[Paulbot_9876]

I personally am not too upset by this.

What I'm upset about is that it'll piss off potential independent votes and cross-over votes, especially the ones who already hopped on the bandwagon. I've witnessed 4 supporters already "withdraw" their support until they dropped this ad.

Yes it'll get the six pack joe's vote, but at what cost?

the cost of saving lifes and help prevent another attack...maybe that should be talked about with this ad....the terrorist was from other countries with visas...

 

[Pete]

I think the immigration ad is perfect. It will prompt discussion, and in that discussion Dr. Paul will shine, per usual.

What the hell are we doing, conducting a WOT© with open borders? And if Congress designates countries as being sponsors of terror, what are we doing accepting students from those countries? Dr. Paul will annihilate his opponents in exploring these inconsistencies. Under a Ron Paul administration, the 'terrorist' designation would not last for long, I would imagine, nor would trade policies that put two million small Mexican farms out of work. Remember, one important tactic of his is opening with a seemingly outrageous statement, then backing it up with a well-reasoned and nuanced argument.

As far as the quality of the campaign's ads go, I think they have all been great, from the amateurish "He's catching on" to the tabloid quality of this one. They break from monotonous slickness and glitz, and really grab attention.

 

[thuja]

The ad was not good. It wasn't just the language. The production values are also low. All of these ads are being done on video. They need to be using film and then bumping over to digital fr editing. Shows like C.S.I., Dexter, and the Wire are done this way and that's why they have better contrast and depth.

Also, he should never say "overturn the patriot act". That's falling into the trap of accepting the name "Patriot Act". We o this forum understand that it is an unpatriotic act but many less informed people will interpret that as "Ron Paul is unpatriotic". He should instead say he is against wiretapping, and spying on US citizens.

i hope you can convince them of these excellent ideas.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Amen to that!

I don't agree with 100% of Ron Paul's positions, but I support him 100%. I don't think there's anything that could change my mind, unless he did a 180-degree turn. I can't imagine agreeing with 100% of anyone's positions!

Freedom and reclaiming our country are all that matter to me at this point. Without that, we have NOTHING! Can you name any other candidate out there who stands behind freedom and reclaiming our country the way Ron Paul does? I cannot imagine any true supporter changing his or her tune and voting for anyone else. If they do, then they never got it in the first place.

QFT

Sometimes it makes me wonder if Paul is falling off the untouchable pedestal that some people had him on. In my opinion, that's a good thing. After all, he is a man; not a saint. But, he is a man who loves his country, has tremendous integrity and honesty and will work his heart out to put our country back on track. I don't agree with him on every single issue, but I am behind him 100%.

GO, RON, GO!!!!

 

[LibertyEagle]

I personally am not too upset by this.

What I'm upset about is that it'll piss off potential independent votes and cross-over votes, especially the ones who already hopped on the bandwagon. I've witnessed 4 supporters already "withdraw" their support until they dropped this ad.

Yes it'll get the six pack joe's vote, but at what cost?

Takadi, then contact the campaign and at least attempt to express to them your rationale as to why they should drop the student visa point from the ad.

 

[voytechs]

You guys don't get it. Someone long time ago posted about the topic of ad quality. This guy was a advertising guru. He said this was all part of the master plan. The campaign purposely produces cheap looking ads in the beginning to make it look down to earth, not polished. This is the first step, just to get some recognition out there, not to turn heads or voters, not yet at least. Then towards the end the ads get much much better quality showing people how much the campaign has grown. The voters that have not made up their minds yet (which is majority) are now going to be hit with a barrage of super high quality ads, with very strong and targeted messages, like the immigration ads. Heads are turning, exactly how its supposed to play out.

This is one of the best ways to expose people to new ideas and products (Dr. Paul in this case.) So stop whining unless you sit in the campaign strategy meetings and you are whissle blower and have something significant to say.

Same thing goes for poll numbers. The campaign has been saying all along they are exactly where they want to be, under the radar most of this time. The perverbial shit hits the fan after Christmas which it has, we've risen into double digits, and they still grossly underestimate our turn out, we've got a rock solid war chest for the first states, swat poll monitoring teams , etc, etc..

Now lets figure out how give the man what he needs!

 

[TruckinMike]

TruckinMike Speaks...

The immigration ad is GREAT!

And I have been very critical of other ads in the past. -- But this one has the strength that the others lacked. It is powerful, and it will be very effective.

TMIKE

 

[Menthol Patch]

This was a fantastic ad! We need to all get behind the official campaign if we are going to win!

 

[mbrebstock]

the most important thing is - with ron paul as president there are no terrorists left. everybody loves america again and all students are allowed to get a visa.

and not only that. with ron paul as president there will be less taxes, less welfare and more prosperity and a huge need of people who want to immigrate legally and nobody could ever be opposed to any hard working immigrant who wants to help the nation becoming even better and more prosperous.

i think ron pauls position is as following:

america caused hate from all over the world with their useless wars. this should be changed. no more useless wars. until there are still a lot of people out there who dont like america because they lost some family members in a war as a civilian you should be a little suspicious who you let in.

you have to handle it the same way as you would with your e.g. restaurant. if there is the son of a father who was killed by your grandfather - you probably don't let him in -because you think its too dangerous. as long as you let anybody else in this is not perfectly safe - because this son could have a friend who comes to your restaurant to kill you - but you feel more safe.

 

[Ozwest]

You guys don't get it. Someone long time ago posted about the topic of ad quality. This guy was a advertising guru. He said this was all part of the master plan. The campaign purposely produces cheap looking ads in the beginning to make it look down to earth, not polished. This is the first step, just to get some recognition out there, not to turn heads or voters, not yet at least. Then towards the end the ads get much much better quality showing people how much the campaign has grown. The voters that have not made up their minds yet (which is majority) are now going to be hit with a barrage of super high quality ads, with very strong and targeted messages, like the immigration ads. Heads are turning, exactly how its supposed to play out.

This is one of the best ways to expose people to new ideas and products (Dr. Paul in this case.) So stop whining unless you sit in the campaign strategy meetings and you are whissle blower and have something significant to say.

Same thing goes for poll numbers. The campaign has been saying all along they are exactly where they want to be, under the radar most of this time. The perverbial shit hits the fan after Christmas which it has, we've risen into double digits, and they still grossly underestimate our turn out, we've got a rock solid war chest for the first states, swat poll monitoring teams , etc, etc..

Now lets figure out how give the man what he needs!

+1

 

[Menthol Patch]

TruckinMike Speaks...

The immigration ad is GREAT!

And I have been very critical of other ads in the past. -- But this one has the strength that the others lacked. It is powerful, and it will be very effective.

TMIKE

I agree! It's one of the best ads I have seen yet!

I am especially glad it addressed birthright citizenship.

 

[acroso]

libs

I love laughing at libs.


Ron Paul's new ad roxors.

Deport the illegal aliens, kill the terrorists, destroy the IRS!

 

[Charles Wilson]

How About 23 Million Dollars To Fight Fascism

I received the same email that most of you received and I will post my response below. Do you folks realize the seriousness of what is at stake here?


Folks, as you know, we are in a war with the MSM and the neocons. They control how much free access we have in the press on the national level. With that in mind, I urge you to seek Federal matching funds. If Ron Paul had received equal free access in the MSM I would not be suggesting this. We can use those funds to try and de-program the public. The massive propaganda used by the neocons to brainwash the public following 9/11 is staggering.

I see this election as a life or death struggle for Democracy in this country. If Ron Paul does not win this election then the Elite power brokers will consolidate their power and we will never have another chance to take our country back at the ballot box in a peaceful revolution.

Neoconservative is just another name for Fascism. Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism.

I will be donating another 100 dollars tomorrow but that will max me out.

Regards

Charles F. Wilson

P.S. After watching part of the interview between Tim Russert and Huckabee this morning I realize that Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag carrying a cross. I am a born again Christian and know a phony when I see one. It appears that Huckabee was coached. Tim Russert threw him soft balls and coddled him -- Huckabee is their man!

 

[thuja]

I received the same email that most of you received and I will post my response below. Do you folks realize the seriousness of what is at stake here?


Folks, as you know, we are in a war with the MSM and the neocons. They control how much free access we have in the press on the national level. With that in mind, I urge you to seek Federal matching funds. If Ron Paul had received equal free access in the MSM I would not be suggesting this. We can use those funds to try and de-program the public. The massive propaganda used by the neocons to brainwash the public following 9/11 is staggering.

I see this election as a life or death struggle for Democracy in this country. If Ron Paul does not win this election then the Elite power brokers will consolidate their power and we will never have another chance to take our country back at the ballot box in a peaceful revolution.

Neoconservative is just another name for Fascism. Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism.

I will be donating another 100 dollars tomorrow but that will max be out.

Regards

Charles F. Wilson

P.S. After watching part of the interview between Tim Russert and Huckabee this morning I realize that Fascism has arrived in America wrapped in an American flag carrying a cross. I am a born again Christian and know a phony when I see one. It appears that Huckabee was coached. Tim Russert threw him soft balls and coddled him -- Huckabee is their man!

yes, this is all very very serious, and we should wok harder than ever for Dr Paul. if that person wins anything our country and our lives will be much worse of than now,even.

 

[skeryl]

Originally Posted by voytechs View Post
You guys don't get it. Someone long time ago posted about the topic of ad quality. This guy was a advertising guru. He said this was all part of the master plan. The campaign purposely produces cheap looking ads in the beginning to make it look down to earth, not polished. This is the first step, just to get some recognition out there, not to turn heads or voters, not yet at least. Then towards the end the ads get much much better quality showing people how much the campaign has grown. The voters that have not made up their minds yet (which is majority) are now going to be hit with a barrage of super high quality ads, with very strong and targeted messages, like the immigration ads. Heads are turning, exactly how its supposed to play out.

This is one of the best ways to expose people to new ideas and products (Dr. Paul in this case.) So stop whining unless you sit in the campaign strategy meetings and you are whissle blower and have something significant to say.

Same thing goes for poll numbers. The campaign has been saying all along they are exactly where they want to be, under the radar most of this time. The perverbial shit hits the fan after Christmas which it has, we've risen into double digits, and they still grossly underestimate our turn out, we've got a rock solid war chest for the first states, swat poll monitoring teams , etc, etc..

Now lets figure out how give the man what he needs!

+100

 

[peter_lifton]

terrorist nations

I loved the ad. It appealed to CONSERVATIVE LIBERTARIANS - i.e. ME. Many Ron Paul supporters are liberal libertarians who enjoy what immigration has done to the country (i.e. anti-nationalist anarchists)

No visas for people from countries where political bombings are common. i.e. the middle east. What is wrong with saying "NO!" to Arabs wanting to entry the US? I can't go to Saudi Arabia and neither can you, student visa or not.

The Federal government should be able to decide who comes into this country and so far they have done NOTHING to prevent 25 million illegal immigrants from INVADING the southern border. Ron Paul will change all that, not as well as Tancedo would have but Ron Paul is excellent on ALL the issues.

Why do we need student visas for people from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran etc. We need more AMERICAN engineers, doctors, scientists.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Getting Ron Paul elected as President is more important than you can possibly imagine. This country is headed for a train wreck and of all the presidential candidates, Ron Paul is the only person who can stop the train wreck before it happens. If the Ron Paul campaign needs $23 Million more, then its time for everyone who wants to preserve this nation for future generations to open up their wallets, make some financial sacrifice, and pony up.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/80fa0a2c-49ef-11dc-9ffe-0000779fd2ac.html

 

[Rex]

Why don't we get some production companies to donate free ads to the campaign??

 

[michaelwise]

Sorry, but what people are producing on their own costs $0.00 to the campaign and is much more effective. I haven't seen a single ad from HQ that matched the winning ad that was aired on the CNN/Youtube debacle.

I'm royally turned off by the new immigration ad, and I'm sure others are too.

We only have to change 1 word in the ad to make it perfect. Maybe you should change your name to Rudy Justice. Such a cry baby.