2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

This won't sit well with many people but I feel like he should endorse Cruz if he can get a VP Slot. It could set him up for Pres in the future. The only way I would vote for Cruz is if Rand was VP

usually to get picked as VP, you have to actually have some votes.
 
This won't sit well with many people but I feel like he should endorse Cruz if he can get a VP Slot. It could set him up for Pres in the future. The only way I would vote for Cruz is if Rand was VP

Would never happen. If Cruz got the nomination he would have to consolidate with the establishment, the VP pick would surely be an establishment type.
 
If any of you thought all of the Ron Paul voters were purists like yourselves in 2012, you're kidding yourself. To say it would have been as simple as Rand being a carbon copy of Ron and then he would have gotten 21% in Iowa, you're also kidding yourselves.

bingo
 
The source of the problem is that with Ron we thought we actually found a subset of the population that understood liberty. The truth is that those who understand liberty are the minority of the minority. There is no "Ron Paul" base. A bunch of those people were just rebel morons who wanted to go against the grain.

I feel bad for Rand. He's worked so freaking hard :(

THIS. have been realizing this over the past year or so...

its shocking how many friends from RP 08 & 12 who flipped on Rand and now are anarchists or pro Trump, Cruz, or SANDERS.

most got pessimistic and started cheering for the world to burn. SMH. im heavily doubting the rationality/sustainability of the "RPbase" as well. my heart aches for the old days of refreshing RPgraphs. <sigh>
 
Right on!! Ode to Iowa non-liberty voters....
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
 
I've got no problem with how Rand is running his campaign, especially the last few days. This is the support forum for Rand's campaign, you should be ashamed of yourself for coming in here and shitting on it when the campaign has a bad day.

The campaign has sucked from day one. This shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.
 
There are 12 in the race, and Rand finishes at 5. He is in the top 50%, so let's stop being "debbie downers".
 
When will the rand sycophants in this forum stop placing blame where it doesn't belong, i.e., the dumb voters of Iowa and the media? The sad truth is that Rand has run a weak and uninspired campaign. He had the legacy of his father to build upon and shunned it from day one. This forum is a shell of what it once was. If that's not a microcosm of Rand's failure, I don't know what is. He only has himself to blame.

This isn't Rand's fault at all. Many of the Ron Paul voters never understood the Fed. They're probably too fucking dumb to understand it. They just wanted to be part of something; to be against the establishment. Well now they had plenty of places to go. Don't blame Rand. He did the best he could.

I started realizing this a while ago, when some people I met when I was a delegate in 2008, started supporting single player health care.
 
I wouldn't go that far. I still plan to vote for Rand for 1 reason. I promised I would. I know he won't win, but I also know I voted for the best candidate.

I would do the same if I would be US citizen, no matter what.
 
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