2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

[limequat]

Chin up guys.

We may have gotten roughed up again tonight, tomorrow we are wiser and stronger.

 

[HarryBrowneLives]

97% in ...Still love u Rand, butttt

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

I'm sad that Rand Paul only got fifth place, but at least I get to watch the alt-right on twitter despair over Trump's loss.

 

[fatjohn]

There are 12 in the race, and Rand finishes at 5. He is in the top 50%, so let's stop being "debbie downers".

He has half of whar we got in 08. It is so over.

 

[Fivezeroes]

Lol against a shill for goldman sachs. I think ted is by far the worst candidate.

And as stated, it wont translate into anything for Ted in NH, or any of the other states. Ted is the new Frothy.

 

[TomtheTinker]

Yup and that means Hillary will be our next President.

Bloomberg will run if it Clinton v trump.

Trump may be the next president.

 

[groverblue]

I'm sick.

 

[limequat]

Oh, and everybody that has an "I told you so" or "Lol, at the kids"

Kindly fuck off. Now is not the time.

 

[65fastback2+2]

This isn't Rand's fault at all. Many of the Ron Paul voters never understood the Fed. They're probably too fucking dumb to understand it. They just wanted to be part of something; to be against the establishment. Well now they had plenty of places to go. Don't blame Rand. He did the best he could.

I started realizing this a while ago, when some people I met when I was a delegate in 2008, started supporting single player health care.

more spot on.

 

[Dianne]

The only smart thing the voters of Iowa did was soundly reject Bush.

Yes !! Although I do believe it is the plan for Bush to come from behind. This election will probably turn out to be the "countdown to armageddon", Bush versus Clinton.

 

[bronc_fan23]

There are 12 in the race, and Rand finishes at 5. He is in the top 50%, so let's stop being "debbie downers".

But it's not about that. He will be ignored now through NH, SC, and Super Tuesday, since he isn't polling well in any of those states. It was about gaining momentum and forcing the media to acknowledge the campaign. With this performance all the campaign can say is we beat Bush, Kasich, and Christie, which won't matter because all three of those guys will finish higher than Rand in NH.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Absolutely agree! Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods, Michael Scheuer...A big FUCK YOU from me you get.

It almost makes me want Trump to win, just so a couple of those fucks jump off a bridge in shame.

 

[ds21089]

To those claiming to move to another country.. Are you so delusional to think the US wont find a reason to destroy whatever countries with freedom remain? "This just in ISIS has gone to Iceland. We must eradicate them." etc. honestly its going to come down to a violent revolution, but t wont happen until after the economy collapses and people are near death.

 

[Fivezeroes]

Holy fuck the establishment is REALLY propping up Rubio. He was expected to get 15% he's at 23% and rising. I'm calling shenanigans on Microshits part. This is Diebold all over again.

 

[CPUd]

The campaign has sucked from day one. This shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.

If you don't like the way the campaign is being run, take it to them. Posting that shit here doesn't help anything.

 

[ApathyCuredRP]

Focus on your local areas and get your house in order. Times are going to get rougher and rougher. Let the country burn in debt. I am done with this. Apathy has returned.

 

[CPUd]

Holy fuck the establishment is REALLY propping up Rubio. He was expected to get 15% he's at 23% and rising. I'm calling shenanigans on Microshits part. This is Diebold all over again.

I think you're overplaying your hand a bit...

 

[69360]

How is Rand doing WORSE than the pre-caucus polls?

It's within the margin of error.

Sad thing is that Cruz winning Iowa means nothing. Trump is up on both Rubio and Cruz by over 20%

The winner of the IA caucus always gets momentum into NH. This is the first time in months that Trump has been shown to be fallible.

 

[parocks]

The two biggest variables were Cruz and Trump, a race without those two would look entirely different for Rand. I think Trump was the biggest variable, while Cruz blurred the lines between establishment and the liberty movement.

If any of you thought all of the Ron Paul voters were purists like yourselves in 2012, you're kidding yourself. To say it would have been as simple as Rand being a carbon copy of Ron and then he would have gotten 21% in Iowa, you're also kidding yourselves.

"the liberty movement"? "the liberty movement" could be seen as a subset of "tea party", perhaps. Or, just "anti-establishment".

People who generally like the way things are going vs people who generally don't like the way things are going.

And the people who generally don't like the way things are going isn't the same thing as "the liberty movement".

 

[Dianne]

Rand up to 5%, Carson down to 9%. The bigger areas coming in.