2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

When will the rand sycophants in this forum stop placing blame where it doesn't belong, i.e., the dumb voters of Iowa and the media? The sad truth is that Rand has run a weak and uninspired campaign. He had the legacy of his father to build upon and shunned it from day one. This forum is a shell of what it once was. If that's not a microcosm of Rand's failure, I don't know what is. He only has himself to blame.

Are you kidding? The RPF mafia would have driven them out in 2 days flat. Haven't you been watching? Not to mention a number of members of this forum who didn't like Rand because he didn't pass their purity test. So, if you're looking for people who behave like dumbasses, go look in the mirror.
 
Absolutely agree! Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods, Michael Scheuer...A big FUCK YOU from me you get. They're a big part of why this failed.

Nah, most of America hasn't even heard of them. They are only big deals in the tiny libertarian/libertine world.
 
If he dropped out, who the hell is he going to endorse? lol...

I don't know any that would be good...

Cruz would be the best on policy - but that slimebag will lose for sure in the general. Which means there will be another 20 years + before the republicans dare to nominate a 'conservative candidate' again.
 
Well, Rand did better than any other libertarian leaning person in the whole country did this cycle. He got himself out there with enough support to be in the race, which is more than can be said for anyone else. I would support him again, but I told myself if he didn't get 15% in IA then I was going to give up, so that's it for me for now. Anyone else who is still going to work or donate anyway, I admire your perseverance.
 
When will the rand sycophants in this forum stop placing blame where it doesn't belong, i.e., the dumb voters of Iowa and the media? The sad truth is that Rand has run a weak and uninspired campaign. He had the legacy of his father to build upon and shunned it from day one. This forum is a shell of what it once was. If that's not a microcosm of Rand's failure, I don't know what is. He only has himself to blame.

I've got no problem with how Rand is running his campaign, especially the last few days. This is the support forum for Rand's campaign, you should be ashamed of yourself for coming in here and shitting on it when the campaign has a bad day.
 
Which means no one ever had any say so to begin with as the people behind the curtains are the ones pulling the strings.

Of course. It's been like that for a very long time. The only way to beat them is to overwhelm them with numbers. It's been that way since before Goldwater won the Republican nomination in the 60s.
 
This won't sit well with many people but I feel like he should endorse Cruz if he can get a VP Slot. It could set him up for Pres in the future. The only way I would vote for Cruz is if Rand was VP
 
The two biggest variables were Cruz and Trump, a race without those two would look entirely different for Rand. I think Trump was the biggest variable, while Cruz blurred the lines between establishment and the liberty movement.

If any of you thought all of the Ron Paul voters were purists like yourselves in 2012, you're kidding yourself. To say it would have been as simple as Rand being a carbon copy of Ron and then he would have gotten 21% in Iowa, you're also kidding yourselves.
 
I would like to meet the 10 individuals who voted for Gilmore (who is he again?!)
 
I don't like them, but I can understand Cruz, Trump, and Marco Polo's appeal on some, primal, level ...but two words ... BEN CARSON over Paul. I have no words for the pure idiocy of this race. #Mindboggling
 
So in Alamakee County - extreme northeast corner of the state Ron Paul won with 157 votes and 33% of the vote. Rand only has 2 votes with 30% counted.

I just can't believe that many Liberty voters for Ron would switch to Cruz or Trump or simply those voters refused to caucus.

You just found the problem...we THOUGHT the 157 were liberty voters.

They werent. They were just anti-pc, anti-washington voters.

Ron was the only anti in the 2012 races. This time we have 4+ running as the anti's.

They werent liberty votes...thats where we all screwed up.
 
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