2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

parocks · Feb 2, 2016

Foreigner said:
So is https://www.iagopcaucuses.com/ working for anybody? It's been down for almost an hour now.

Which means new updates to the results aren't updated anywhere else either.

Precincts remaining sould be some of the largest. While were not gonna jump to 4th, I'd at least like to see the total vote counts for the College town counties...

It's been updated, we didn't crush it in college towns. Rubio crushed it in college towns. I just looked at Story and Johnson counties and I don't think we won a precinct, and it looks like Rubio won almost every precinct there.

invisible · Feb 2, 2016

CPUd said:
Something fell apart and they're not really saying too much about what it is, but they definitely knew by 5PM something wasn't right.

What indicates to you that they knew something wasn't right by 5pm?

groverblue · Feb 2, 2016

CPUd said:
...they definitely knew by 5PM something wasn't right.

what evidence do you have they knew something by 5pm?

parocks · Feb 2, 2016

Foreigner said:
Iowa City 31st of January 2016: 1500 people show up for the Rand Paul rally.
Iowa City 1st of February 2016: 620 people show up to caucus for Rand Paul. (still a few precincts to go, but..)

It's the same at the other college towns as well. (although all the votes are not counted yet)

Why are not people showing up?

Here are some possible answers.

1) They went to the rally to go to the rally. Maybe they went to get information to make a decision. Maybe they did caucus, but not for Rand.

2) Caucusing is a pain.

invisible · Feb 2, 2016

groverblue said:
tube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0O6iR_d4TY

I saw it on fox, and they had the better camera angle than this (cnn) version (no breakaway shots, and bill not obscured behind hillary's head at all when he moves around a bit). However, you can still very obviously see what's going on here. bill is even licking his lips, lol.

parocks · Feb 2, 2016

WQuantrill said:
I think two years ago, Trump told a confidant that he would play the media to subsidize his campaign. Trump knows what the MSM is drawn to, that being controversy and impure political thoughts. Rand should have punted the safe strategy and threw in some curveballs to garner attention.

The media wanted to talk about Trump. Trump doesn't have to worry about pissing off voters - he's not a politician. Rand could throw bombs all day, right now, if he wants. But that might hurt him with voters in Kentucky.

Brian4Liberty · Feb 2, 2016

moraha said:
The problem is the media controlled everything. Every...single...thing.

One of my aunts come over my house today and she told me she wanted to vote for Rubio. I asked her why? She said he seemed very confident and presidential. She asked who I'm supporting and I said Rand Paul. She said "I've heard of him but they never talk about him on TV so I don't know much"..."HEARD" of him???

But it's not her fault. Most people only hear what is being said on the news. As long as the media has control over things, they decide who wins.

Well, Paul Ryan shouldn't feel bad about a 5th place finish. He's doing a great job as Secretary of State.

parocks said:
It's been updated, we didn't crush it in college towns. Rubio crushed it in college towns. I just looked at Story and Johnson counties and I don't think we won a precinct, and it looks like Rubio won almost every precinct there.

Maybe President Rubio will start some wars and implement a draft to thank them?

puppetmaster · Feb 2, 2016

invisible said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0O6iR_d4TY

I saw it on fox, and they had the better camera angle than this (cnn) version (no breakaway shots, and bill not obscured behind hillary's head at all when he moves around a bit). However, you can still very obviously see what's going on here. bill is even licking his lips, lol.

this dude is wasted......I say meth

Edit. Maybe weed.....and when he looks out over the crowd they all look like fried chicken

afwjam · Feb 2, 2016

Well I can't help but be disappointed in the American people. We might disagree on certain issues, but Rand is a clear contrast to every other candidate.

AngryCanadian · Feb 2, 2016

I am sick of seeing Ben Carson.
Cant believe idiots still voted for a Nutcase!

francisco · Feb 2, 2016

puppetmaster said:
this dude is wasted......I say meth

Edit. Maybe weed.....and when he looks out over the crowd they all look like fried chicken

Actually I wonder if there's a serious medical problem there. The uncontrolled action of Bill's tongue makes me wonder if he has incipient Parkinson's...or if he's on an antipsychotic drug that mimics Parkisonian symptoms.

CPUd · Feb 2, 2016

invisible said:
What indicates to you that they knew something wasn't right by 5pm?

I'll have do dig deeper later this week to see if I can figure out exactly what, but around that time, Rubio's campaign started getting bolder in their statements about taking 3rd place, all the way up to going into the caucuses when they were all but guaranteeing it. There are a whole slew of twitter accounts I watch from campaign volunteers who all went silent around that same time frame.

CPUd · Feb 2, 2016

CPUd · Feb 2, 2016

invisible · Feb 2, 2016

CPUd said:
I'll have do dig deeper later this week to see if I can figure out exactly what, but around that time, Rubio's campaign started getting bolder in their statements about taking 3rd place, all the way up to going into the caucuses when they were all but guaranteeing it. There are a whole slew of twitter accounts I watch from campaign volunteers who all went silent around that same time frame.

I don't have twitter or any other "social media". But I did notice the rube's last minute confidence that he was going to pull off a top 3 finish. Feel free to PM me, you know you're always welcome.

Occam's Banana · Feb 2, 2016

parocks said:
I'm not a Libertarian, definitely not in the "the minimum wage should never be raised" form of Libertarianism that is practiced here.

This is one of the strangest sentences I have ever read on RPFs ...

randomname · Feb 2, 2016

According to NBC exit polls among young people Trump got in 3rd with 19% and Rand got in 4th 13%

ProBlue33 · Feb 2, 2016

This is why Rand lost, Jefferson county is reflective of the state, Ron Paul won in both in 2008 and 2012.
If we couldn't take Jefferson county then there is sadly no hope elsewhere to win, if you think otherwise enjoy Fantasy Island.

2008

Paul - 36%
Huckabee - 31%
Romney - 16%
Thompson - 10%
McCain - 5%
Giuliani - 3%

2012:

Paul - 49%
Santorum - 19%
Romney - 12%
Gingrich - 10%
Perry - 6%
Bachmann - 4%

2016 Link
https://www.iagopcaucuses.com/#/county/19101

7.9% not only did he lose, he lost it badly not even close, where did all the Ron Paul supporters go.

CPUd · Feb 2, 2016

ProBlue33 said:
This is why Rand lost, Jefferson county is reflective of the state, Ron Paul won in both in 2008 and 2012.
If we couldn't take Jefferson county then there is sadly no hope elsewhere to win, if you think otherwise enjoy Fantasy Island.

2008

Paul - 36%
Huckabee - 31%
Romney - 16%
Thompson - 10%
McCain - 5%
Giuliani - 3%

2012:

Paul - 49%
Santorum - 19%
Romney - 12%
Gingrich - 10%
Perry - 6%
Bachmann - 4%

2016 Link
https://www.iagopcaucuses.com/#/county/19101

7.9% not only did he lose, he lost it badly not even close, where did all the Ron Paul supporters go.

The ones who went on to win the nomination didn't do so hot in Jefferson either.

Nye · Feb 2, 2016

puppetmaster said:
this dude is wasted......I say meth

Edit. Maybe weed.....and when he looks out over the crowd they all look like fried chicken

Bill looked like he couldn't wait to get back in the WH. When I first watched it earlier, I thought something was off about him.

Still can't believe Carsons finish. It literally seemed like he fell asleep through almost the whole debate.

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