2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

I will never understand the Cruz love here. Even as the 2nd choice. What is the appeal? He's going to dive into war the first opportunity he gets. No one in more in love with Israel and it's plans than Ted Cruz.

Ron Paul had the antiwar vote. And now is forum is filled with ppl ignoring the major part of his platform.

Cruz is a fraud. He's Goldman Sachs.
 
There are 12 in the race, and Rand finishes at 5. He is in the top 50%, so let's stop being "debbie downers".

Some did worse than their polling numbers and Rand was, tbh, not one of them. He was at 3.9 at Huffington polls of polls and 4.1 at RCP
 
I will never understand the Cruz love here. Even as the 2nd choice. What is the appeal? He's going to dive into war the first opportunity he gets. No one in more in love with Israel and it's plans than Ted Cruz.

Ron Paul had the antiwar vote. And now is forum is filled with ppl ignoring the major part of his platform.

there's cruz love here?

This place is more or less obsessed with hating the guy.

personally i'm in favor of his domestic and economic policies. If it came down to it, I have no issue with voting for him. With that said, I'll be voting for Paul in the NH primary.
 
Don't stop based on tonight.

Just take the positives of beating Christie, Bush, Kasich and Fiorina.

Then hope he can take out Carson and one of the big guns down the line here. Rand can do it, but he can't let Marco Rubio speak over him next time and be way more aggressive in attacking these guys. Time to go after Trump again and Rubio.
 
I will never understand the Cruz love here. Even as the 2nd choice. What is the appeal? He's going to dive into war the first opportunity he gets. No one in more in love with Israel and it's plans than Ted Cruz.

Ron Paul had the antiwar vote. And now is forum is filled with ppl ignoring the major part of his platform.

When was the last time our foreign policy wasn't 100% do whatever Israel wants? You're not wrong about Cruz, but it's not like any of the notPauls are going to do anything different. Israel always gets whatever they want from the US.
 
I don't think Huckabee can endorse Trump. Huckabee's audience will never stand for it. I think he will just go home and see what happens. I think his votes will go to Carson. Maybe some to Cruz or Rubio, but not enough to make a difference.
 
This will be a three way race now. This isn't even as good for liberty as in 08.
I feel bad for Ron Paul, he has to be sad to see his son fail like this.
 
Nice, FOX just said Rand coming in 5th in Iowa might help him excel in New Hampshire. We need to get to work !!
 
Despite the FreeState movement, NH has changed and has less and less of the "Live Free or Die" sentiment. Massholes moving in.

No income or sales taxes, but to make up the shortfall, property taxes are sky-high

Winters are brutal

Just 'sayin, cuz I've thought of it myself

At any rate, some kind of refuge is called for

Masshholes have ruined NH. At least the massholes only ruin our state a few months in the summer then go away. They seem to live in NH all year round.
 
THE RON PAUL BASE WAS FUNDAMENTALLY NOT LIBERTARIAN.. the end. We need to stop lying to ourselves. Ron got lucky that there were huge spaces of the Republican coalition left unoccupied and that there was no one else in those lanes in 2012.

The 2016 campaign has pretty much confirmed this:(.
 
there's cruz love here?

This place is more or less obsessed with hating the guy.

personally i'm in favor of his domestic and economic policies. If it came down to it, I have no issue with voting for him. With that said, I'll be voting for Paul in the NH primary.

Keep the wars going and his domestic policies don't matter. We are just waiting for more blowback and bankruptcy.
 
This will be a three way race now. This isn't even as good for liberty as in 08.
I feel bad for Ron Paul, he has to be sad to see his son fail like this.

I think that is taking it over board. Look, Rand came in 5th. He beat out all the establishment Governors !!!! I think he had an impressive showing. Trump, Cruz and Rubio all have skeletons in their closets. Rand needs to come in playing hard ball !!! We got a shot, we're still in this !!
 
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