2016: If not Rand, then who?

I don't always vote...but when I do...It will be for liberty...

If Rand distances him self too far from his dad he will not have a chance. So far he is still up in the air with me. Keep up the neocon parade and I will be voting libertarian everytime.
 
Raimondo will get into about as many debates as Buddy Roemer.

I think he could get as much support as GJ had and get into as many debates. Lesser candidates have made the stage before too. IIRC, Morry Taylor was in a Republican primary debate one year.

Plus, if Rand's smart, he'll be active behind the scenes trying to help make sure Raimondo was on the stage.
 
I think he could get as much support as GJ had and get into as many debates.

Probably, but Gary Johnson had the credibility of being a two-term Governor, elected both times as a Republican, and even then wasn't allowed in many debates in 2011.

Raimondo, on the other hand, is some random dude with 3,800 Twitter followers.
 
Rand is probably the best last hope, but others are possible if Rand (for any reason) does not run. No one can predict family or health problems.

those alternatives could be Justin Amash (esp if he wins a senate seat), Raul Labrador (again if he wins gov/sen)

those alternatives also would be fron runners for Rand's VP choice

2016 is Rand's only chance (and also the only chance of Jeb, Huck, Rubio) until 2032, by which time they will all be too old
 
Probably, but Gary Johnson had the credibility of being a two-term Governor, elected both times as a Republican, and even then wasn't allowed in many debates in 2011.

Raimondo, on the other hand, is some random dude with 3,800 Twitter followers.

Raimondo doesn't have the GOP cred that GJ does. But he was the party's nominee to run against Pelosi one year. He'd also be more exciting than GJ. And again, part of the plan would be for Rand supporters to get behind having Raimondo in the debates.
 
Rand is probably the best last hope, but others are possible if Rand (for any reason) does not run. No one can predict family or health problems.

those alternatives could be Justin Amash (esp if he wins a senate seat), Raul Labrador (again if he wins gov/sen)

those alternatives also would be fron runners for Rand's VP choice

2016 is Rand's only chance (and also the only chance of Jeb, Huck, Rubio) until 2032, by which time they will all be too old



What happened to 2020-2028?
 
Rand is probably the only "somewhat" liberty candidate that would have a chance but the way the GOP works is by pecking order and they will get behind whomever's next in line. Much as I would prefer Judge Napolitano, he would never be nominated. They would do exactly to him what they did to Ron Paul. Has everyone forgotten the caucuses and conventions? The GOP does what it wants and they will never get behind anyone who is a non-interventionist or too pro-liberty.
 
if you look at what's been happening past couple days.. benghazi, irs, ap, there's a LOT of stuff you can stir without going through rand paul.. the only thing i object is leaving everything up to one person then complain about it.

should some more viable candidate come about, who campaigns on reform faster than rand's platform--i have no doubt rand will arrive at a place essentially close to ron's, but his rhetoric is for a more gradual approach on the more controversial issues--i have no problem supporting an alternative, if that alternative has higher poll support than rand while running on a faster paced reform platform.

but that will come naturally. no, allow me to correct that: it will come because many many people, grassroots, whistle blowers, activists bring about a fundamental change in the country's attitude. the rise of viability threshold in candidates-- higher of which means the more radically-toned candidates we can put up and have a realistic chance-- will come about because of changes in public sentiment, general awareness of a constitutional republic etc, not because everybody whines hard enough behind another so-called political leader. go do something useful. i am.
 
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Rand would be the only viable one. I'm not going to waste my time supporting someone who has never won an election as a Republican before, or someone who just defected to the LP after getting last place in 2012.
 
Rand would be the only viable one. I'm not going to waste my time supporting someone who has never won an election as a Republican before, or someone who just defected to the LP after getting last place in 2012.

This is strange lol
 
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