2014 Senate Races

* SC has 4 Tea Party congressmen and they would be willing to endorse a Graham primary challenger if it was politically feasible? Then why won't one of them want to challenge Graham? A Congressman is in better position to run for senate than a state legislator. Their bigger office means they have more voters, allies, and donors available to them than a guy from a relatively small legislative district.

none of them will run against Graham because they're not really tea partiers just go along to get along Republicans.

Davis if he's funded will be the only viable candidate and they won't expect it, we can turn it into a straight 50/50 fight hopefully

I agree he would have a lot of work to do to convince people to dump the senior senator, even he loses though it might work out for him in 2016

DeMint, Rand Paul and no elected official (through their PACs or otherwise) will support Davis if he took on Graham, no way. so people need to get that out of their heads. It will be up to us to donate, create moneybombs, get attention etc..
 
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Amash was in the Michigan House of Representatives for two year prior to running for US Congress. His vote explanations had made him quite popular among Republicans in his district.

And was he involved in local party politics before 2008? How much of his own money did he put into that initial campaign? I'll agree that Amash may not be the best examples. Rand and Schiff are much better examples of the point I was making.

However, in 2010, Amash won the congressional GOP primary by plurality. 41% - 26% - 24% over his two main opponents. Would he have won if he had 2 establishment opponents rather than two? Maybe, maybe not.
 
DeMint, Rand Paul and no elected official (through their PACs or otherwise) will support Davis if he took on Graham, no way. so people need to get that out of their heads. It will be up to us to donate, create moneybombs, get attention etc..

I think you're right... but superpacs like Liberty for All are a different story.
 
none of them will run against Graham because they're not really tea partiers just go along to get along Republicans.

Gowdy and Mulvaney, Mulvaney in particular, are very good, DeMint-style legislators. But I agree that they won't run against Graham.
 
I agree that DeMint will not endorse since he got hammered when he battled incumbents. Now he only endorses in primaries. This is in line with Senatorial custom. I'm not sure about Rand or Lee, though. But that's not important. What IS important is that Davis become the front running challenger to Lindsey Graham and attack him as ESTABLISHMENT, RINO, FLIP-FLOPPER and attack him hard on ECONOMICS. Just repeat the same formula as Rubio v Crist, Lee v Bennett, Liljenquist v Hatch, Cruz v Dewhurst, etc. This way Club for Growth, FreedomWorks and other national conservative organisations will endorse and throw money in, plus the conservative and Tea Party grassroots (including Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, Malkin, Levin and others) will throw their support in.

This won't be too difficult because Graham has a shit relationship with everyone in the GOP except single-issue war hawks and K Street. He has made no efforts to move to the right since 2010 either. Also, he does not have sympathy like McCain does (who was the nominee once and a war hero and who will probably retire anyway).
 
Great stuff everyone .

I think we all agree that we can focus on South Carolina and make it a priority, assuming Tom Davis wants to run. Any disagreement?

Next, do we focus on Alaska, North Carolina, other, or none?
 
Great stuff everyone .

I think we all agree that we can focus on South Carolina and make it a priority, assuming Tom Davis wants to run. Any disagreement?

Next, do we focus on Alaska, North Carolina, other, or none?

Our shot at Alaska assumes Gov Parnell does not run. I don't think Miller would lose to anyone other than Palin or Parnell. In the event neither of them do, Miller would most likely not require our help. He also won't need our help in the general, since Begich is universally considered vulnerable.

It's way too early to speculate on NC, IA, etc.
 
While DeMint said he wouldn't go after incumbents in 2014, Rand and his RANDPAC never made that statement.

So we could potentially have RANDPAC, Liberty For All, Club For Growth, and FreedomWorks all going after Graham.
 
Please get this out of your heads, no GOP elected official will oppose Graham, yes that means RAND and RANDPAC will not oppose Graham and neither will any of the congressmen.

Neither will any neocon talking heads like Limbaugh, Levin or Hannity. Davis will have ZERO help from anyone if he tries to take down Graham. The purge will rely on hard work in the state and donations from us. Bob Bennett and Dick Lugar were never opposed by anyone, Lee and Mourdock had to work hard in the state to convince the GOP electorate to dump them and so will Davis.

The good news is the establishment will be caught by surprise and can't really do much to save Graham once the momentum gets going. Graham has all the money he needs to run a campaign (lets hope he is complacent and runs a lousy one) so the Senate GOP will not be looking to spend money on his behalf and it wont be on their radar at all...
 
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Please get this out of your heads, no GOP elected official will oppose Graham, yes that means RAND and RANDPAC will not oppose Graham and neither will any of the congressmen.

Neither will any neocon talking heads like Limbaugh, Levin or Hannity. Davis will have ZERO help from anyone if he tries to take down Graham. The purge will rely on hard work in the state and donations from us. Bob Bennett and Dick Lugar were never opposed by anyone, Lee and Mourdock had to work hard in the state to convince the GOP electorate to dump them and so will Davis.

FreedomWorks and Club for Growth may help out, since they don't have to worry about being hurt politically.
 
Yes CFG and Freedomworks might but dont be so sure.

Freedomworks didn't get involved in the KY primary with Rand until very late in the day.

Rand had no PACs supporting him, he had to raise 2 million to win an open primary so that gives you an idea of what Davis needs to do.. he needs our donations and he needs Ron Paul helping him raise money. The rest will fall into place.
 
One thing im pretty sure about is if we held dump Lindsey moneybombs and spread it on freerepublic and other conservative bastion sites, we'd get a lot of interest and pledges from grassroots conservatives outside the liberty community who don't like him. that's the kind of thing we need to do...
 
Bob Bennett and Dick Lugar were never opposed by anyone

This isn't true. The reason they lost their primaries is that there were many local Republicans who didn't like them anymore. This is especially clear in Bennett's case, where he was soundly voted down by the state convention delegates. In Lugar's case, when Murdock announced his challenge, [he] "released a list of 12 Republican state central committee members and 67 GOP county chairs who endorsed him." (wiki) And then he obviously was able to hire an intelligent campaign manager, staff members, and consultants.

You need local support in order to win.
 
FreedomWorks and Club for Growth may help out, since they don't have to worry about being hurt politically.

Good chance of Club for Growth getting involved:

Club for Growth Puts Sen. Lindsey Graham in Its Cross Hairs
Conservative Club for Growth says it wants Graham knocked off in 2014 primary

September 20, 2012

In the 2012 election season, the powerful, conservative Super PAC Club for Growth was on the winning end of a slew of critical primaries.

And the group's president Chris Chocola says its never too early to start identifying 2014's targets.

Club for Growth supports economically conservative candidates, keeps score on who is supporting its pro-growth policies on the hill, and zeroes in on those Republicans who stray from conservative dogma.

"If you're looking to the horizon for 2014, the sun may rise over South Carolina," Chocola says. "There's no question that there's a lot of interest in the South Carolina senate race Republican primary."

[See a collection of political cartoons on the 2012 campaign.]

Chocola says Lindsey Graham's been a little too free wielding with American taxpayers' dollars.

"Lindsey Graham has not fared well on our score cards," Chocola says. "But we'll see what the race is. You need to have something better to offer to be able to engage there."

Graham's popularity among his constituents is also slipping.

A PPP poll earlier this year showed that 42 percent of South Carolinians wanted a more conservative Senator in the seat. And a majority said they'd like to see Rep. Joe Wilson challenge Graham in the primary.Club for Growth has become a powerful voice in veering Republicans to the far right on economic issues.

One of its biggest successes unfolded in Texas where Republican primary candidate Ted Cruz began his race with 2 percent support in the polls against Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, and ended up winning the nomination just months later.

Club for Growth poured $5 million into the Texas Senate primary on Cruz's behalf.

The group also played a key role in the Republican primary in Indiana where they put their money behind Republican state Treasurer Richard Mourdock. Mourdock defeated 30-year incumbent Sen. Dick Lugar.

Chocola says the club's goal isn't to elect Republicans, but to elect budget-slashing, deficit-reducing leaders.

"Look, every member of Congress is an independent contractor—they can vote how they want," Chocola says. "It is up to them to decide what the consequence of that vote is."
 
Robert Paul did make it clear he was not going to run for any senate seat in 2012, but he left the future ambiguous.

Read more: politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/04/22/robert-paul-says-texas-senate-bid-unlikely#ixzz2D2HQmlKu
 
I'm never going to say I won't ever run for office, but I think running for Senate probably is not going to happen this time,
Paul told the group at UNT.
 
How about Colorado then?

Funny you mention it. I was reading on a conservative site on how they thought their only shot was if they ran a libertarian Republican. The shift with some in the GOP since Romney was beat is pretty significant.
 
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