2 Homes Leveled in Indianapolis by Explosion, Damage to Multiple Homes

I read a couple of days ago ATF is involved now as well. Hmmm. Also read that everyone that lived in the hood is now on a dusk to dawn curfew-these are the people not even staying in the neighborhood whose homes were rendered uninhabitable, and are staying at motels. Don't know the truth to that, but that's really odd(and scary). Sorry, no links, it was during my customary 3 day insomnia stretches, somewhere on youtube, I believe.
This is strange, though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQojHX7K8rk

Can hellfire missle explosions be felt 10-15 miles away?
 
coastie said:
Can hellfire missle explosions be felt 10-15 miles away?
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20# warhead ........yeah I'd bet it could be felt around that distance..

Basing my assumption on a "standard" quarry blast of 20 sticks that'd shake the ol' farm hose windows 6 miles away...
 
tod evans said:
20# warhead ........yeah I'd bet it could be felt around that distance..

Basing my assumption on a "standard" quarry blast of 20 sticks that'd shake the ol' farm hose windows 6 miles away...
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Well ok, thanks....did you watch the video I posted? Apparently the Russians are claiming that their satellite detected the launch of two hellfire's over that area, as well as one of those Air Force "doomsday" planes in the same area. I'm assuming these missiles can either hit the ground and explode-or explode above it as an air burst? I see no crater, and I'm not pretending to be remotely familiar with any kind of ordinance damage, I really don't know.
 
coastie said:
Well ok, thanks....did you watch the video I posted? Apparently the Russians are claiming that their satellite detected the launch of two hellfire's over that area, as well as one of those Air Force "doomsday" planes in the same area. I'm assuming these missiles can either hit the ground and explode-or explode above it as an air burst? I see no crater, and I'm not pretending to be remotely familiar with any kind of ordinance damage, I really don't know.
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No I didn't but I will in a bit........Sorry and thanks for the written explanation, I seldom watch videos.
 
coastie said:
I read a couple of days ago ATF is involved now as well. Hmmm. Also read that everyone that lived in the hood is now on a dusk to dawn curfew-these are the people not even staying in the neighborhood whose homes were rendered uninhabitable, and are staying at motels. Don't know the truth to that, but that's really odd(and scary). Sorry, no links, it was during my customary 3 day insomnia stretches, somewhere on youtube, I believe.
This is strange, though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQojHX7K8rk

Can hellfire missle explosions be felt 10-15 miles away?
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I have to wonder why the military would be targeting it's own resources.
 
Dr.3D said:
I have to wonder why the military would be targeting it's own resources.
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Yeah, who knows. Nothing's shocking anymore, I would be just as not surprised if it was nothing as I would if it was true.
 
coastie said:
Yeah, who knows. Nothing's shocking anymore, I would be just as not surprised if it was nothing as I would if it was true.
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Perhaps a rogue drone operator. The missiles get fired, then to save their resources, they redirect them into another target, hence the explosion?
 
coastie said:
I read a couple of days ago ATF is involved now as well. Hmmm. Also read that everyone that lived in the hood is now on a dusk to dawn curfew-these are the people not even staying in the neighborhood whose homes were rendered uninhabitable, and are staying at motels. Don't know the truth to that, but that's really odd(and scary). Sorry, no links, it was during my customary 3 day insomnia stretches, somewhere on youtube, I believe.
This is strange, though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQojHX7K8rk

Can hellfire missle explosions be felt 10-15 miles away?
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Interesting (and not obnoxious) video.....Thanks!
 
Dr.3D said:
Perhaps a rogue drone operator. The missiles get fired, then to save their resources, they redirect them into another target, hence the explosion?
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Possible. I'm assuming some sort of airburst here from my non-expert examination of the debris pattern, seems flattened out as opposed to blown up. But I don't know shit about explosions really, just calling it like I see it. NDAA being enforced?

It's interesting it is now a homicide investigation, and reports of FBI and ATF at the scene, and I doubt ATF is investigating a blown whiskey still or bootleg cigarette operation-so that leaves firearms(explosives).
 
tod evans said:
Interesting (and not obnoxious) video.....Thanks!
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I've been subscribed to that guy for a while now, mostly following his coverage of the Louisiana sink hole(which is getting quite serious). I'll admit, he goes into some stuff in some videos that's a little far-fetched for me, but most of his stuff is like the video I posted, usually asking for assistance into looking into these things. Something is definelty not right here, I don't recall "normal" house explosion investigations taking this long from when I lived in New England.
 
coastie said:
I've been subscribed to that guy for a while now, mostly following his coverage of the Louisiana sink hole(which is getting quite serious). I'll admit, he goes into some stuff in some videos that's a little far-fetched for me, but most of his stuff is like the video I posted, usually asking for assistance into looking into these things. Something is definelty not right here, I don't recall "normal" house explosion investigations taking this long from when I lived in New England.
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Be interesting to get hold of one of the "investigators" and pump him full of sodium pentothal...
 
If it was a missile attack, the news we will get will probably be it was a terrorist attack of some kind, or perhaps an insurance fraud scheme.
 
Dr.3D said:
If it was a missile attack, the news we will get will probably be it was a terrorist attack of some kind, or perhaps an insurance fraud scheme.
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Exactly! I fear concocting a story is what's taking so long..

I trust government as far as I can drop kick an anvil...
 
I wish some EOD guys could comment on this... and what about that "white van" seen in the area? ...weird.
 
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My guess is, that was a natural gas explosion.
If it was gas, the mixture sure was perfect, but was it accidental or arson???

Investigators will pinpoint the exact cause ...even if it was a drone/bomb.

We may only hear the cover story though. The truth may never get out.
 
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UPDATE:

The explosion is now being treated as a homicide investigation:

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...xplosion-homicide-case-seek-details-white-van


A few highlights from the article:

Much of the focus of the investigation so far has been on the home of Monserrate Shirley, 47, at 8349 Fieldfare Way, where the blast is thought to have originated.

Attorney Randy Cable, who represents Shirley, said before the announcement that he and his client wouldn’t comment about it.

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Shirley was out of town the weekend of the blast with her boyfriend, Mark Leonard, visiting a Lawrenceburg casino. Her daughter was staying with friends, and their cat had been boarded.

Shirley told the Star last week she was in shock after the explosion, which investigators say caused an estimated $4.4 million in damage.

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Leonard, 43, has a lengthy criminal record dating to 1992. He has been convicted of several felonies, including intimidation, stalking, operating a vehicle while intoxicated with a prior conviction, theft, dealing in marijuana and possession of cocaine or a narcotic drug, according to Marion County court and Indiana
Department of Correction records.

He was sentenced to nearly five years in prison for some of those offenses, according to department of correction.

State Farm Insurance, which insured Shirley’s home, according to her ex-husband, declined Monday to discuss details of its investigation.

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In 2007, Shirley and her then-husband, John Shirley, filed jointly for Chapter 13 bankruptcy. Court records show they had liabilities of nearly $410,000 and assets of about $316,000.

Among their liabilities were two mortgages on the Fieldfare Way house, on which they owed a total of $225,794. The house's value was listed as $230,000, according to court records.

The house was listed for $149,900 in late 2011 as a possible short sale, but it was pulled off the market in March at the request of the owner, according to real estate listings. The house had a gas furnace and a wood-burning fireplace with gas starter, according to descriptions.
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FindLiberty said:
My guess is, that was a natural gas explosion.
If it was gas, the mixture sure was perfect, but was it accidental or arson???

Investigators will pinpoint the exact cause ...even if it was a drone/bomb.

We may only hear the cover story though. The truth may never get out.
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Well.....

While it was NOT widely publicized (in fact, this is the first I had heard of it) the "security detail" assigned to the neighborhood, from the time of the explosion on November 10 until just a couple of days ago November 23 was staffed and run by Homeland Security:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012121123006

Since the disaster, an Indianapolis Division of Homeland Security response team had overseen security in the neighborhood — a group to which the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department and other area police agencies contributed officers in order to maintain a beefed-up police presence.

That arrangement, however, gave way to more routine IMPD patrols beginning 6 a.m. Friday when an “Event Response Group,” or ERG, patrol wrapped up a shift.
That team handed over duties to IMPD officers from the Southeast District, which includes Richmond Hills.

“Units have downgraded from the initial response,” said Capt. Rita Burris of the Indianapolis Fire Department, “to now include a combination of DHS (Department of Homeland Security) assets and other IMPD officers.”
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