17 States Are Calling for a Con-Con (34 Required)

[Okie RP fan]

Sorry if this has been posted recently. I honestly had no idea this was going around and that 17 states are calling for one. A 2/3 plurality is required (34/50 states) in order to begin the process in which the States can bring about a convention and make official changes to the Constitution. Historically, I've been opposed to a so called "modern day" Con-Con for reasons that aren't hard to understand. Some of those being: today's politicians don't seem to be as smart or upstanding as the Founders in overall character, vastly more corporate influence, and general ignorance of law and history that seems to permeate so strongly within modern society.
The main proponents of this latest call for a Con-Con cite the following:

Under Article V of the Constitution, calling a convention to amend the U.S. constitution would require approval from two-thirds of U.S. states, or 34 of 50 states. According to the National Constitution Center, the measure is used to bypass Congress, but has never been accomplished before.

Constitutional amendments can also be made if two-thirds of both chambers of Congress agree on a proposal and it is ratified by three-fourths of states. Since the U.S. Constitution was adopted, 27 amendments have been made.

"The Nebraska Legislature in its resolution, similar to other states, put forward changes that will 'impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.'”


...According to the Convention of States Action, so far Georgia, Alaska, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arizona, North Dakota, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Utah have approved a call for the convention, while 24 others are considering doing so.

Much more at the following source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nebraska-joins-call-convention-states-amend-us-constitution



Those are some things should have been done decades ago and we probably wouldn't be in this dire of a situation today. Actually defined and enforceable term limits would have likely done far more than we believe, even for the cynics among us.
There's just one major thing I'm missing here and that is SECESSION. If this Con-Con wants to ensure States can peacefully secede on their own merit, then this has my full support.
We all know we're in need of something drastic at this point. America as we knew it is gone, but there are some things left that can keep its spirit going in some other respects if we act soon.

 

[jmdrake]

We don't need another con-con. We need another convoy like what's going on in Canada. Quit expecting the bought and paid for politicians to fix this. I'm not even in favor of "peaceful secession" because red states do some messed up stuff too (school board in Tennessee wanting to ban Maus for example) and Trump gave us Operation Warp Speed. Bring these politicians to HEEL by letting the business interests that back them know in no uncertain terms that 25% of "We The People" can shut down the entire economy any time we choose. Even Amazon can't make money if the trucks don't roll. AliBaba sell a bunch of it's crap to the North America and it's all got to be unloaded from their transport ships. Farcebook makes money from adds from entrepreneurs trying to sell crap they got off AliBaba. Grind it all to a halt.

 

[Okie RP fan]

We don't need another con-con. We need another convoy like what's going on in Canada. Quit expecting the bought and paid for politicians to fix this. I'm not even in favor of "peaceful secession" because red states do some messed up stuff too (school board in Tennessee wanting to ban Maus for example) and Trump gave us Operation Warp Speed. Bring these politicians to HEEL by letting the business interests that back them know in no uncertain terms that 25% of "We The People" can shut down the entire economy any time we choose. Even Amazon can't make money if the trucks don't roll. AliBaba sell a bunch of it's crap to the North America and it's all got to be unloaded from their transport ships. Farcebook makes money from adds from entrepreneurs trying to sell crap they got off AliBaba. Grind it all to a halt.

Will you be joining the convoy from California to D.C.?

I won't be for a number of reasons, although I'd like to. That's part of the problem: there are more of us Internet warriors than there are those of us willing to make actual physical appearances at these places.
I'd love to blockade D.C., but I only have a couple weeks of PTO...

My point: easier said than done for the majority of us. I wasn't one of the seasonal workers laid off during 2020 that decided to go and riot, burn, and pillage in response like we saw with the loser Antifa brigade or the marxist BLM organization. And I'm not a single owner/operator/contractor like many of these truckers. And whether you or I supported Trump or not, all of us should have been in D.C. on January 6th. Why? Because it was a time to take a stand and really send a message bigger than the one that was sent that day. Our systems are rigged and people have lost faith in the institutions. The courts don't hear us. The politicians don't fear us. The Constitution is shredded. Any dissenting thoughts are silenced on social media, etc.

What recourse is left, I ask?

 

[acptulsa]

If we can't find time for a convoy, how do we find time to keep the communists and Pfizer stooges out of a constitutional convention?

The main problem with our constitution is we elect people who think it's Charmin. A new one may be pearls and it may be slop, but they're still swine.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Sorry if this has been posted recently. I honestly had no idea this was going around and that 17 states are calling for one. A 2/3 plurality is required (34/50 states) in order to begin the process in which the States can bring about a convention and make official changes to the Constitution. Historically, I've been opposed to a so called "modern day" Con-Con for reasons that aren't hard to understand. Some of those being: today's politicians don't seem to be as smart or upstanding as the Founders in overall character, vastly more corporate influence, and general ignorance of law and history that seems to permeate so strongly within modern society.
The main proponents of this latest call for a Con-Con cite the following:



Much more at the following source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nebraska-joins-call-convention-states-amend-us-constitution



Those are some things should have been done decades ago and we probably wouldn't be in this dire of a situation today. Actually defined and enforceable term limits would have likely done far more than we believe, even for the cynics among us.
There's just one major thing I'm missing here and that is SECESSION. If this Con-Con wants to ensure States can peacefully secede on their own merit, then this has my full support.
We all know we're in need of something drastic at this point. America as we knew it is gone, but there are some things left that can keep its spirit going in some other respects if we act soon.

If there were ever a time to not have a Con-Con it is now when so many people are deluded. I would be for a Con-Con if people not states could decide which Con they want to abide by. No need for Secession. You make your choice and live by those rules. If there is an issue the proper authority handles the matter. So people living in NY city can be 1776 or 2022 their choice. Simply make your position known to any person that seems to be Kareng. I am not bound by your ideology, rules, or anything you believe hold precious. Treat it like religion to each their own.

 

[69360]

It would be bad. You don't want this.

 

[donnay]

We don't need another con-con. We need another convoy like what's going on in Canada. Quit expecting the bought and paid for politicians to fix this. I'm not even in favor of "peaceful secession" because red states do some messed up stuff too (school board in Tennessee wanting to ban Maus for example) and Trump gave us Operation Warp Speed. Bring these politicians to HEEL by letting the business interests that back them know in no uncertain terms that 25% of "We The People" can shut down the entire economy any time we choose. Even Amazon can't make money if the trucks don't roll. AliBaba sell a bunch of it's crap to the North America and it's all got to be unloaded from their transport ships. Farcebook makes money from adds from entrepreneurs trying to sell crap they got off AliBaba. Grind it all to a halt.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jmdrake again.

Absolutely. We have a constitution that these evil bastards just simply ignore.

 

[donnay]

If we can't find time for a convoy, how do we find time to keep the communists and Pfizer stooges out of a constitutional convention?

The main problem with our constitution is we elect people who think it's Charmin. A new one may be pearls and it may be slop, but they're still swine.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

 

[jmdrake]

Will you be joining the convoy from California to D.C.?

No. I have an 84 y/o dad to look after and a steady paycheck from a help desk contract which is the best I've had in a while. When the https://tallyco.in/ campaign goes up for it I'll donate. (That will finally be a reason for me to get a Bitcoin wallet. I have a little bit of bitcoin in CashApp but I don't know if I can donate through that). In other words I would if I could but I'll help how I can.

I won't be for a number of reasons, although I'd like to. That's part of the problem: there are more of us Internet warriors than there are those of us willing to make actual physical appearances at these places.
I'd love to blockade D.C., but I only have a couple weeks of PTO...

This.

My point: easier said than done for the majority of us. I wasn't one of the seasonal workers laid off during 2020 that decided to go and riot, burn, and pillage in response like we saw with the loser Antifa brigade or the marxist BLM organization. And I'm not a single owner/operator/contractor like many of these truckers. And whether you or I supported Trump or not, all of us should have been in D.C. on January 6th. Why? Because it was a time to take a stand and really send a message bigger than the one that was sent that day. Our systems are rigged and people have lost faith in the institutions. The courts don't hear us. The politicians don't fear us. The Constitution is shredded. Any dissenting thoughts are silenced on social media, etc.

I disagree. January 6th was stupid and not well thought out from any angle. Good grief, the idiots didn't even wear masks to disguise themselves at a time that you could walk into the most secure locations on earth expected to wear a mask! More importantly, it was all about Trump. I know people in their heads convince themselves that it wasn't.....but it was. Yes there is election fraud. Did you know that a Hispanic Republican from Texas was indicted for 2020 election fraud using mail in ballots?

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...peace-rearrested-over-election-fraud-charges/

So the idea being pushed that ONLY Democrats were engaged in voter fraud is the real "big lie." Both sides do. Maybe the election was stolen. Maybe not. Trump's lawyers weren't able to produce enough evidence even to get a conviction in the friendly court of Tucker Carlson. (Sydney Powell got mad for Tucker asking her for evidence).

And is Trump asking for protests against vaccine mandates? Nope. He's speaking out in favor of vaccine boosters. Instead he is calling for protests in case state prosecutors "unfairly" go after him. He's not calling for protest on behalf of the January 6th protestors still in jail awaiting trial over a year later. If there was any doubt any anybody's mind that January 6th was a stupid stunt, the fact that Trump isn't calling for protests on behalf of the protestors but he is call for protests on behalf of himself if he after get's done half as bad as they've been done is quite telling.

What recourse is left, I ask?

Simple. Get away from partisan party politics. Biden's numbers are in the tank. He's popularity among black protestants has dropped nearly 30 percentage points. (From 92% to 65%). The ONLY thing that can save Biden is to make this about Trump. If/when a mass trucker protests starts in the U.S., whatever you were thinking of doing on behalf of Trump or the GOP or in support of a con-con, do in support of the truckers. That means bumper stickers, sign waves, phone banking, donating, poll spamming, sharing links, whatever. The Canadian truckers are winning. When you see a winning strategy, it's time to emulate it. Their resistance is leaderless. There's no Canadian "Alex Jones" for the media to demonize and make the focus of the coverage of the protests. It's just a bunch of normal people who have had enough.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If you look at the politicians in office and tell me that you trust any delegates selected by them to do anything but make things worse I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

If you look at the politicians in office and tell me that you trust any delegates selected by them to do anything but make things worse I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.

How many acres? Are there any zoning restrictions?

 

[TheTexan]

I'm for a Con-Con for the sole reason that it may be a domino in the sequence that leads up to secession.

 

[RJB]

Of course politicians want to get rid of the last remanents of the walls that restrain their tyranical natures. The only reason we haven't gone full commie retard is because of the 1st and 2nd ammendments. As badly as they have been battered, most American kids were taught that they are important.

 

[Okie RP fan]

^^ There are no remnants left at this point, let's be entirely honest.


I'm getting the notion that most of you didn't read my entire post. So, allow me:

I stated in the OP I've never been a fan of the idea of a con-con today and even listed reasons why (which shockingly mirrors most of the comments on here). I close out my OP by saying if they can confirm secession as a plank that will be passed, it'd have my support, meaning as it is, it does not. If they can confirm secession, WTH else is required at that point? They're allowing your state to leave if they want. Can't really do that today as it is.

So we can all assume everyone else on here besides [MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION] and myself (reasons listed above) will be attending or supporting a big convoy to D.C. then instead, right?

 

[acptulsa]

^^
So we can all assume everyone else on here besides [MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION] and myself (reasons listed above) will be attending or supporting a big convoy to D.C. then instead, right?

Mr. Drake said he'd be supporting it. I can't go to D.C., but if you come to I-40 on that key day next month, you'll see me waving the Bennington (my avatar) on an overpass.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Yeah lets trust the same politicians that got us into this mess to send delegates that totally reflect our beliefs when they clearly won't have our best interests at heart.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm for a Con-Con for the sole reason that it may be a domino in the sequence that leads up to secession.

FULL agreement here. Push it forward, wth, let's see what comes from it? Maybe people will get so fed up that they actually say "screw this" we'd rather separate and go it alone.

I would welcome any state doing this as it would demonstrate to the rest of them that the Federalized Union is not needed.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

If you look at the politicians in office and tell me that you trust any delegates selected by them to do anything but make things worse I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.

I have bridge that will get them there.

 

[Swordsmyth]

How many acres? Are there any zoning restrictions?

100 acres of woodland.
There are absolutely no restrictions, your imagination is the limit.

 

[ClaytonB]

We desperately need a Convention, to at least revert the illegally-"passed" 16th amendment, and pass a gold/silver amendment (End the Fed)... but now is not the right time. Opening that can-of-worms is like doing heart-surgery and the DS would seize the opportunity to finalize the destruction of the US.