13 Reasons Why

I couldn't watch the bathtub scene. I just couldn't. But I'm glad they put it in there.
 
It occurs to me that the on-demand nature of this series may make it a bit different than your average movie. A person could (and they often have) binge watched this for 13 hours straight. This is akin to brainwashing or conditioning. As [MENTION=25257]osan[/MENTION] might testify, it could take a person to a certain mindset, one that is hard to snap out of. Can this result in some form of PTSD? Maybe.
 
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Brian4Liberty said:
It occurs to me that the on-demand nature of this series may make it a bit different than your average movie. A person could (and they often have) binge watched this for 13 hours straight. This is akin to brainwashing or conditioning. As @osan might testify, it could take a person to a certain mindset, one that is hard to snap out of. Can this results in some form of PTSD? Maybe.
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All I can say is I was in a hole for three days. You have to hand it to the director and screen writers for crafting effectively.
 
Netflix put the discussion episode on their youtube channel. It has spoilers:

 
JusticeBob said:
I couldn't watch the bathtub scene. I just couldn't. But I'm glad they put it in there.
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I couldn't watch the girl so damn concerned about hitting a stop sign and that 'when you do something wrong you tell somebody.' As if drunken teens would give a shit about calling the police for a minor traffic incident where no one was hurt. Then to just think if there was a traffic sign missing, someone living in the area would just drive past intersection of said minor traffic incident is ridiculous (like maybe it's his damn fault for not paying attention).

The whole thing was reaching and the teen who killed herself seemed like she had a fourteenth reason. She was a melodramatic, unstable, individual where everything apparently 'ruined' her life and future.

I really tried to give the show the benefit of the doubt as so many people recommended it. But, it is like every other bullshit attention/award seeking movie/show as of late that has very high reviews but which lacks quite a bit. Maybe I'm getting old but I'll be damned if 'C' movies of the past don't outrank the 8/10 and above on IMDB.
 
kcchiefs6465 said:
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I couldn't watch the girl so damn concerned about hitting a stop sign and that 'when you do something wrong you tell somebody.' As if drunken teens would give a shit about calling the police for a minor traffic incident where no one was hurt. Then to just think if there was a traffic sign missing, someone living in the area would just drive past intersection of said minor traffic incident is ridiculous (like maybe it's his damn fault for not paying attention).

The whole thing was reaching and the teen who killed herself seemed like she had a fourteenth reason. She was a melodramatic, unstable, individual where everything apparently 'ruined' her life and future.

I really tried to give the show the benefit of the doubt as so many people recommended it. But, it is like every other bullshit attention/award seeking movie/show as of late that has very high reviews but which lacks quite a bit. Maybe I'm getting old but I'll be damned if 'C' movies of the past don't outrank the 8/10 and above on IMDB.
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Did you stop watching after that episode?
 
Families blame "13 Reasons Why" for girls' suicides
June 29, 2017

Two California men are urging Netflix to stop streaming "13 Reasons Why" because they say teenage girls in their families committed suicide after watching the series.

The show does carry warnings for its graphic depictions of violence but these suicides raise new questions about whether the labels are enough.

The two men who had never before met in person, are now supporting each other in their grief, CBS News correspondent John Blackstone reports.

"Every day I look at Belle's picture, and I give her a kiss, and I say 'I miss you, baby,'" said John Herndon.

Herndon and Peter Chiu understand what each has lost. Herndon's daughter Bella and Chiu's niece Priscilla, both 15 years old, committed suicide in April--and both had just finished watching the Netflix series "13 Reasons Why."
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More: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/netflix-13-reasons-families-claim-show-triggered-suicide/
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Teen Commits Suicide After Binge-Watching '13 Reasons Why' — Grieving Parents Blame Netflix (EXCLUSIVE)

In the new issue of In Touch, the grieving father of Bella Herndon, a California teen who took her own life after watching the Netflix series 13 Reason Why, is speaking out, blaming the "destructive" show for her death and calling on Netflix to stop production of Season 2.

On April 18, John Herndon’s wife, Donna, discovered their 15-year-old daughter, Bella, in her bedroom closet after she had hanged herself. Bella died at the hospital 10 days later, having never regained consciousness.

John is blaming the Netflix series 13 Reasons Why for her death, claiming Bella had binge-watched the controversial show that executive producer Selena Gomez has called her “passion project,” in April.

Bella wasn’t the only teen to take her life immediately after watching the Netflix show: San Mateo, Calif., 15-year-old Priscilla Chiu hanged herself on April 22. “I think this [show] was a trigger for Bella and Priscilla,” John told In Touch.
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More: http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/13-reasons-why-135719
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A New Survey Shows What These Young People Thought of "13 Reasons Why"

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/survey-shows-what-young-people-thought-of-13-reasons-why

MAR 21, 2018

Many said it made them more empathetic.​

When 13 Reasons Why premiered nearly a year ago, there was a lot of talk of the show's impact. Many people praised it, lauding the show for sparking an important dialogue about mental health, sexual assault, and many other issues young people face. But others questioned whether it brought about that conversation in a productive way. Now, Netflix says a new survey found that the majority of respondents felt watching the show was beneficial for them, and even made them feel more empathetic.

Netflix partnered with Northwestern University’s Center on Media and Human Development to survey 1,700 young people in the United States on their views of 13 Reasons Why. Of those who responded, 71% said the show was beneficial for them to watch. More than three-quarters of respondents said they learned things about depression and suicidal ideation, including how depression might impact young people, and that someone may be depressed without showing outward signs. Ultimately, young people in the survey said they sought out more information and had new discussions after watching 13 Reasons Why. The survey found that more than half of respondents had conversations about what to do if you're being bullied after viewing the show, while 41% talked about how to spot symptoms of mental health — and that's important.

Having conversations about mental health, suicide, sexual assault, and other topics dealt with in the show is key, but some experts said they didn't think the show started those conversations in the best way. In an op-ed for Teen Vogue, suicide prevention advocate MollyKate Cline wrote that the way the show portrays character Hannah Baker asking for — and not getting — help could discourage others from reaching out. She also pointed out that the show doesn't give young people positive examples of how to cope with mental health.

"If the idea is to scare people into reaching out to someone when they need help, this show will definitely do it. However, my problem is that the audience is shown what not to do without examples of what they actually should do," she wrote.

In the wake of the show, students at one school started an effort called "13 Reasons Why Not," in which young people shared reasons to live.
While 67% of respondents to the Netflix survey said the depiction of Hannah's death by suicide was necessary to show the reality and pain of it, suicide attempt survivor Dese'Rae L. Stage previously told Teen Vogue the scene in which Hannah dies violates guidelines set by suicide prevention experts. Dese'Rae told Teen Vogue, "Given my own experiences as a suicide attempt survivor, I think it was a little too hyper-realistic."

She added, "It violates all of the guidelines set out by suicide prevention organizations about how to portray [and] report on suicide. It's scary, it's gory, and it's very violent. It's filmed close up; it never cuts away."

Another survivor told Teen Vogue the scene could serve as a "step-by-step guide" on death by suicide. Still, another survivor felt the scene wasn't grisly enough, and warned that they felt it romanticized suicide.

The survey was not nationally representative, which means it can't be generalized to show the opinions of young people across the country. Still, what's clear from the results is 13 Reasons Why did start a conversation, and it's one worth having. The results showed that the majority of young people surveyed felt compelled to be kinder to one another, and showed them that their actions may impact another person. Since 20% of young people between 13 to 18 live with a mental health condition, and since we know that bullying can have an impact on someone's mental health, anything that encourages empathy and understanding is worth talking about.
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