11 year old expelled after disarming classmate

[TheTexan]

Probably both drug dealers.

 

[jmdrake]

Probably both drug dealers.

Drug dealers don't throw away bullets.

 

[acptulsa]

Drug dealers don't throw away bullets.

They've been known to shoot without aiming. Arguably...

It's a joke. I'm not disputing anything!

 

[PAF]

Drug dealers don't throw away bullets.

Either by theft, or justified, only stupid people "throw away bullets".

 

[jmdrake]

I don't have any particular data in this regard, but I'm willing to bet that historically, a great many 11-year-olds in American history have had permissive access to and even outright ownership of guns - and I'm sure that's still the case today (at least in rural areas).

Sure. Like the hero in this story went hunting with his dad. And Bruce Springstein sung about steering his dad's car while his sitting in his dad's lap in "My Hometown." Supervised access for 11 year old kids versus "Take dad's gun to school day."

In any case, the 2nd Amendment is supposed to be a restriction imposed upon the federal government, not a permission "extended" to American citizens (regardless of their age)

In one of (if not the) first gun control cases Nunn v Georgia, the Georgia Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment did in fact apply to the states. While that's not a federal case it does show the thinking of the time. It wasn't until after the Civil War when white supremacists, with the acquiescence of local law enforcement, disarmed and then murdered freedmen did the U.S. Supreme Court decide the 2nd amendment didn't apply to the states in the case U.S. v. Cruikshank. Make of that what you will.

 

[acptulsa]

Either by theft, or justified, only stupid people "throw away bullets".

True. It's a risk to garbage collectors. Modern garbage trucks are big rolling trash compactors.

 

[jmdrake]

Either by theft, or justified, only stupid people "throw away bullets".

Maybe he should have put them in a sandwich bag? Anyway the kid was only 11. Cut him some slack.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm pretty sure

True. It's a risk to garbage collectors. Modern garbage trucks are big rolling trash compactors.

I'm pretty sure the bullets couldn't have gone through the steel walls of a garbage truck.

 

[jmdrake]

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[acptulsa]

I'm pretty sure


I'm pretty sure the bullets couldn't have gone through the steel walls of a garbage truck.

They aren't hermetically sealed. Ricochets happen. But so what? They wind up in a dump. Dumps sometimes get reclaimed eventually, and building happens on the site. Bullets don't biodegrade. Suppose throwing a bullet away is only dangerous to someone who won't be born for fifty years? Does that make a difference?

I say don't throw live rounds in the trash, and I won't be talked out of it. But he's eleven, and I'm cutting him some slack.

 

[PAF]

I say don't throw live rounds in the trash, and I won't be talked out of it. But he's eleven, and I'm cutting him some slack.

The result of government "school".

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. I get @PAF being an anarchy contrarian but you've not taken that position. So you seriously think there's some possibility that the other kid, who was also suspended mind you, was justified in bringing a gun to school? Seriously? This place has gone down the toilet.

I'm not sure how you could possibly interpret what I wrote as "justified in bringing a gun to school".

"the other kid, who was also suspended mind you"

The point is that there is not a lot of information. Grok said that "the other kid" was not punished, so if you have a link with more information, go ahead and post it.

 

[TheTexan]

I say don't throw live rounds in the trash, and I won't be talked out of it. But he's eleven, and I'm cutting him some slack.

In my house it is very dangerous to throw ammo into the trash.

Very likely to get a thrashing

It's #1 gun safety rule

 

[TheTexan]

I'm not sure how you could possibly interpret what I wrote as "justified in bringing a gun to school".

"the other kid, who was also suspended mind you"

The point is that there is not a lot of information. Grok said that "the other kid" was not punished, so if you have a link with more information, go ahead and post it.

Other kid was arrested, according to a newsghana article (very reliable source)

Hero or Rule-Breaker: Michigan Boy's Gun Disarmament Sparks National Debate | News Ghana

A seventh-grader's split-second decision to disarm a classmate carrying a firearm has ignited a fierce controversy over zero-tolerance policies, turning an act some call heroic into a year-long expulsion battle that has divided a Michigan community. Savitra McClurkin's 11-year-old son was...

www.newsghana.com.gh

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

What good is a firearm if somebody steals your shells, aside from a nice conversation piece hanging on the wall?

I don't know but my guess is people have robbed banks or others with unarmed weapons. I think years ago that was a defense. The gun was not armed. Since then police shoot and kill people for having toy guns and or BB guns. So you would need to ask a cop, or prosecutor what good is a firearm without shells.