10th DWI=Life

I'll see myself out thanks.
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Bite me.

Before you leave... please explain:

Why is getting drunk then getting behind a car wheel de facto initiation of a violent vehicular assault,
but getting drunk then flirting with the opposite sex not de facto initiation of a violent sexual assault?


Yesterday the Muslim group MuslimStern brazenly called for Germany to ban alcohol, claiming it "leads to rapes".
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/637276/Johannisbad-baths-Rainer-Kallweit-Zwickau-Saxony-Germany
 
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I personally think here the issue is not that he's drunk but that he's violating traffic laws. There are different levels of violations (parking ticket vs driving on the wrong side of the road).

I hope we can all agree that traffic rules need to be in place for the mutual benefit of all. Obeying stop lights, signs, crosswalks and driving on the correct side of the road.

From the article driving on the wrong side of the road is a violation that comes with a penalty. So does being impaired impact the penalty? Does ten violations impact the penalty? I believe it does but don't have the answer to what that should be. Life imprisonment seems a bit much ;)
 
I hope we can all agree that traffic rules need to be in place for the mutual benefit of all. Obeying stop lights, signs, crosswalks and driving on the correct side of the road.

NO VEHEMENTLY NOT

The plan is called "Share Space" and exists in towns in England and Holland as well. The idea is that everyone on the road including pedestrians and cyclists have equal rights — no sidewalks even! Local police say that without rules, people — wait for it — think for themselves (!) and communicate more and assume the responsibility of powering a huge pile of metal. Though locals say it took a bit to get used to the freedom and responsibility, it's increased safety and renewed a village-y atmosphere.
http://www.popsugar.com/love/Removing-All-Traffic-Laws-Makes-Town-Safer-Make-Sense-1739759

There is no place for non criminal statutory offences in a free society.



Why is it after every hurricane in Florida, when there is debris strewn everywhere in the streets... all the stops signs are blown over... and all the traffic lights have no power... every body seems to be able to navigate the roads without issue?
 
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Whats going on here?


wtf that same post of mine says don't take the mans life. Bite me.

The post was shit I disregarded the rest,
but a cage for life for nothing but your own fear?

you are a sick individual. sadistic it seems.

bite you? OK
 
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police said they responded a call about a reckless driver on U.S. 180 and saw Eberhardt swerving and driving in the wrong lane. When police pulled Eberhardt over, they said he told the officer he had consumed most of a 750-ml bottle of whiskey that was found in his vehicle.

lightweight.

How was he even driving? His license was revoked!

It's baffling, right?
I predict one will have to insert their license in a chip-reader on their vehicle to start it, someday.
 
I disagree. Certain levels of common goals for mutual benefit are needed. by your definition driving on the opposite side of the road as the current flow of traffic is acceptable. Let the drivers in that space at that time figure it out?
Almost a decade later, there are numerous examples of small European towns that did away with signal lights and traffic signs and, voila, traffic began to flow better, transit times decreased, and roadways became less dangerous for pedestrians and vehicle passengers alike.



The absence of conventional rules improved outcomes.




The concept of a “shared space”—an area without traditional traffic signs, signals, or regulations that’s intended to be used by both cars and pedestrians—underpins many such traffic reforms. Humans don’t normally need formal rules to figure out how to navigate a crowded sidewalk, the logic goes, and isn’t everyone driving a car really just a pedestrian wrapped in a 3,000-pound potentially-lethal steel box? Backers of the Poynton intersection project near Manchester, England, note that “pedestrians in the shared-space scenario, when there are no lights to dictate behavior,




are seen as fellow road-users rather than obstacles in the way of the next light.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international...ties-do-away-with-traffic-signs-a-448747.html

"The many rules strip us of the most important thing: the ability to be considerate.

We're losing our capacity for
socially responsible behavior,"

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"The greater the number of prescriptions,
the more people's sense of personal responsibility dwindles."


When you remove all of the guidance, it makes people (and that includes the bikers and pedestrians as well) much more cautious and careful --

so they tend to make fewer dangerous moves.


On top of that, it actually makes the traffic flow much more smoothly, allowing people to get where they're going much faster, even if they drive slower. Because they have fewer full stops and long waits to deal with, it's actually much more efficient.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061110/011804.shtml
 
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Like all drug addictions, this is a medical problem and should be treated as such. I would be in favor of life in prison IF you kill someone with your car while intoxicated (booze, weed, coke, prescription drugs, etc.). Or other punishments commensurate with the actual crime (destruction of property), etc.

And it WOULD be way cheaper to subsidize cabs rides than imprison people. But then the prison industrial complex doesn't get rich and we can't have that now can we?
 
It snowed here in the south. I drove over to my parents to shovel their driveway. I couldn't believe it. People were actually skidding into oncoming lanes. MUH lane! These insane drivers that think they have a right to be on muh road while driving recklessly should be put away for life!
 
Moral of the story: Don't drink and drive kids!

Self driving cars cannot come soon enough for some people.

You do realize that the penalties for not standing by in a state of (sober) cat like readiness to monitor the machine will be even more harsh?
 
Like all drug addictions, this is a medical problem and should be treated as such. I would be in favor of life in prison IF you kill someone with your car while intoxicated (booze, weed, coke, prescription drugs, etc.). Or other punishments commensurate with the actual crime (destruction of property), etc.

And it WOULD be way cheaper to subsidize cabs rides than imprison people. But then the prison industrial complex doesn't get rich and we can't have that now can we?

That's why, in law, there are aggravating and mitigating factors. If someone totally sober blew through a red light and got T-boned by someone with a .08 BAC then I ,honestly, don't give a damn that the individual was drunk at the time of the accident. It was the other driver's fault. Period. "Drunk" driving should really never be more than an aggravating charge and then only if the "drunk" driver caused the accident.
 
and at the same time, as usual the liberty folk pretend to be obtuse when its actually a difficult situation with no right answer. they argue that we should wait until he kills someone before doing anything about him driving impaired and that just doesn't jive with reality. I dont' think life in prison is the answer, but doing nothing cuz he hasn't killed anybody yet isn't the right answer either.

So, if there's no "right answer", let's make sure that the default position is not "lock 'em up".

Because in Prison AmeriKa that is what it is right now, and why we have millions of people in prison.
 
So, if there's no "right answer", let's make sure that the default position is not "lock 'em up".

Because in Prison AmeriKa that is what it is right now, and why we have millions of people in prison.

Correct answer.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.
 
It snowed here in the south. I drove over to my parents to shovel their driveway. I couldn't believe it. People were actually skidding into oncoming lanes. MUH lane! These insane drivers that think they have a right to be on muh road while driving recklessly should be put away for life!

Let some more Half Backs move in.

Then they'll elect an enlightened governor like Cuomo.

Who will lock you all down in your homes the next time it snows.

That's where all this safety shit heads, always.


NYC under travel ban from deadly East Coast snowstorm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/01/23/blizzard-continues-slam-east-coast/79217258/

Under the travel ban, only emergency vehicles will be allowed on the streets, and drivers who ignore the order could face heavy fines and license points, Cuomo said.
 
Let some more Half Backs move in.

Then they'll elect an enlightened governor like Cuomo.

Who will lock you all down in your homes the next time it snows.

That's where all this safety shit heads, always.


NYC under travel ban from deadly East Coast snowstorm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/01/23/blizzard-continues-slam-east-coast/79217258/

Under the travel ban, only emergency vehicl es will be allowed on the streets, and drivers who ignore the order could face heavy fines and license points, Cuomo said.

Cuomo doesn't sound too bad. At least he's not advocating life in prison or roadside summary executions. /snark
 
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