10th DWI=Life

[Ronin Truth]

99 of 100 of the drunks never get caught, nothing ever happens, and no one is the wiser.

How many drunk driver involved accident deaths and serious injuries are there each year in the US?

With privately owned roads, insurance companies would be making the use rules and regulations.

 

[acesfull]

I'm really glad they took this dangerous driver who has a history of never hurting anyone off the streets.

I feel much safer.

Also the local bar owners are losing lots of cash with this guy in the joint...

 

[Origanalist]

Drink up. He won't be gambling with the lives of other folks out on the streets.

One in ten drivers coming your way are driving while legally drunk.

It must suck to be so afraid.

 

[Origanalist]

How many druck driver involved accident deaths and serious injuries are there each year in the US?

With privately owned roads, insurance companies would be making the use rules and regulations.

I just googled druck driver involved accident deaths and there aren't any.

 

[pcosmar]

Agreed. But the position some people take here is akin to saying its fine to walk around pointing load guns at people and threatening to shoot as long as you don't actually shoot them; even missing them by inches is fine and dandy.

NO,, That is a straw man argument repeatedly brought up in every DUI thread.

That straw horse needs no more beating.

 

[pcosmar]

How many druck driver involved accident deaths and serious injuries are there each year in the US?

Very few actually,, in comparison to other causes.

Alcohol induced fatalities are a small fraction.

Though "alcohol related" are considerably more statistically. mostly in those alcohol had nothing to do with the incident,, but was a side issue.

Question

If a sober driver crashes into a bar full of drunks , how mane alcohol related incidents is that?

 

[Ronin Truth]

Very few actually,, in comparison to other causes.

Alcohol induced fatalities are a small fraction.

Though "alcohol related" are considerably more statistically. mostly in those alcohol had nothing to do with the incident,, but was a side issue.

Question

If a sober driver crashes into a bar full of drunks , how mane alcohol related incidents is that?

None.

Now answer mine, please.

 

[Ronin Truth]

I just googled druck driver involved accident deaths and there aren't any.

OK, thanks.

 

[jonhowe]

To be fair, this isn't pre "crime" if we define crime according to the laws as they stand today.

Driving drunk is like firing a gun into a crowded room; it is inherently dangerous and puts those around you at risk. I'm fine with it being a crime. But the punishment should be treatment for alcohol addiction and abuse, not jail (unless someone is physically harmed).


Not sure about the situation in the OP. Would need more details.

 

[William Tell]

I just googled druck driver involved accident deaths and there aren't any.

OK, thanks.

Well, that's resolved.

 

[pcosmar]

You'd be surprised, they homebrew ketchup packets in there

Peach and Tomato..was a popular one..

Never tried it,, couldn't get past the smell.

 

[Origanalist]

Well, that's resolved.

That doesn't happen very often here.

 

[pcosmar]

To be fair, this isn't pre "crime" if we define crime according to the laws as they stand today.

The only way I describe Law as it stands today is corrupted. Completely beyond repair.

Crime is the harm done. Actual Harm or loss..

In this case there is none (as far as known) He did not so much as scratch paint.

Now,, had he done so,, he would be responsible for the crime of scratching paint. (or what ever damage was done)
Why and how he scratched the paint is irrelevant.. The damage is the "Crime".

drowsiness , drunkenness,, or mechanical failure,, they are all irrelevant..
scratched paint is the crime.. Who is responsible for the scratched paint,, and what Restoration is required are what the law should cover.

 

[tod evans]

To be fair, this isn't pre "crime" if we define crime according to the laws as they stand today.

Driving drunk is like firing a gun into a crowded room; it is inherently dangerous and puts those around you at risk. I'm fine with it being a crime. But the punishment should be treatment for alcohol addiction and abuse, not jail (unless someone is physically harmed).


Not sure about the situation in the OP. Would need more details.

WTF?

How is drunk driving any different than any other form of distracted driving?

Following your illogical analogy the new mother driving her sick child to the pediatrician's office should also be guilty of a crime and sentenced to some remedial program..

Try to disregard the publix-skool learnin' and see if maybe you can do better...

 

[phill4paul]

WTF?

How is drunk driving any different than any other form of distracted driving?

Following your illogical analogy the new mother driving her sick child to the pediatrician's office should also be guilty of a crime and sentenced to some remedial program..

Try to disregard the publix-skool learnin' and see if maybe you can do better...

Agreed. Enough with these "drunk driving is like exploding a nuclear bomb in a volcano over a fault line" strawmen.

 

[Suzanimal]

I just googled druck driver involved accident deaths and there aren't any.

There's a Mothers Against Druck Driving

http://www.acronymattic.com/Mothers-Against-Druck-Driving-(MADD).html

 

[tod evans]

Agreed. Enough with these "drunk driving is like exploding a nuclear bomb in a volcano over a fault line" strawmen.

But dey teached dat in da DARE programz........

 

[Theocrat]

Really?

Walk all you want. You don't have a right to drive.

Says who?

 

[Dr.3D]

Says who?

Point out in the Bill of Rights where you have a right to drive a motor vehicle.

 

[pcosmar]

There's a Mothers Against Druck Driving

http://www.acronymattic.com/Mothers-Against-Druck-Driving-(MADD).html

And there is DAMM

http://damm-madd.com/